New Orleans Pelicans vs Orlando Magic - Preseason - 0-3

[Mrakar]

With a signature 6 assists and 4 rebounds in 24 minutes. He also had 4 steals the other game.

Then again you've been typing drunk garbage for a few days now. I have a number you can call for help. There's a great 30 day program in Houston.

You can call it yourself after you realize what i'm talking about. I thought some of you will get it after WC, but some people look away when things get though.

[PELICANSFAN]

More of the same tonight. Bricks and bad defense.

If nothing else, you are consistent.

[Fedupfan]

If nothing else, you are consistent.

Just trying to be consistently negative like the Pelicans record.

[PELICANSFAN]

Just trying to be consistently negative like the Pelicans record.

0-0? Season has not even started yet and you are ahead of the game.

[Fedupfan]

0-0? Season has not even started yet and you are ahead of the game.

What do you think the record will be at 20 games with the product you have seen? I’ll say 12-8 at best or 8-12 at worst. Feel like they can do great or mediocre.

[clark griswald]

What do you think the record will be at 20 games with the product you have seen? I?ll say 12-8 at best or 8-12 at worst. Feel like they can do great or mediocre.

sadly, 7-13

[donato]

13-7

[PELICANSFAN]

What do you think the record will be at 20 games with the product you have seen? I’ll say 12-8 at best or 8-12 at worst. Feel like they can do great or mediocre.

We've seen partial games - preseason. So, cannot conclude what 1st 20 games will be. Maybe let's wait and see before jumping to conclusions.

[JJackisangry]

I just hope we keep the main guys healthy. Good result overall and good to keep a team below 100. More effort on that end tonight. Our biggest Achilles heel will be our 3pt shooting and our balance on the floor. I think Jonas is a very good player. CJ too. Zion and BI are great. The problem is we have to be able to utilize them in the right moments and when you have so many weapons on the floor it can get discombobulated real fast. Jonas in particular tends to struggle in some games when everyone is healthy because Green doesn’t know how to use him. CJ has to be more of an offball presence when Zion and BI are on the floor. Herb will need to become a consistent 3 ball shooter for this offense to work at full tilt. It’s up to the players to improve on those ends and up to Green to push them in the right direction. I’m very skeptical but hoping we can fix our balance issues because they will matter big time once we reach postseason (if we don’t flop out again).

[Pelicanidae]

Ingram again with his signature game 8/16 FG; 0/1 3PT... Those kind of shots are getting us right where we dont want to be, 10th spot...

I think that's a little unfair, Ingram played well overall.

The one thing that is concerning about him right now is the 3pt shooting. He's taken fewer every single year for the last 3 in a row. Ended last season taking only 2.8 a game for the last month of the season, and has taken only about 2.5 a game so far in preseason. And shot less than 25% on those.

I don't think the poor percentage will hold up - he's shown for years now that he can shoot 36%+ from 3, that's not a problem. But the volume needs to come up for this team to really unlock. He shouldn't be taking 2 or 3 attempts a night, he should be taking 6 or 7 - the only issue is that to do that, he has to shift his shot profile away from the midrange and towards the perimeter in set plays, which he doesn't like. So it's a question of if he's willing to sacrifice some of that isolation play for catch and shoot, and I have seen no evidence that he's willing to make that shift.

[Mrakar]

I think that's a little unfair, Ingram played well overall.

The one thing that is concerning about him right now is the 3pt shooting. He's taken fewer every single year for the last 3 in a row. Ended last season taking only 2.8 a game for the last month of the season, and has taken only about 2.5 a game so far in preseason. And shot less than 25% on those.

I don't think the poor percentage will hold up - he's shown for years now that he can shoot 36%+ from 3, that's not a problem. But the volume needs to come up for this team to really unlock. He shouldn't be taking 2 or 3 attempts a night, he should be taking 6 or 7 - the only issue is that to do that, he has to shift his shot profile away from the midrange and towards the perimeter in set plays, which he doesn't like. So it's a question of if he's willing to sacrifice some of that isolation play for catch and shoot, and I have seen no evidence that he's willing to make that shift.

Whole point of my post is to present his "shot chart". By not taking 3's he is killing his/ours efficiency. No 3's no FT's is what is killing this team. CJ is the same. Only Z can save us with FTs and Trey with 3's.
Ingram is great at making though shots. There is maybe 3 guys in the league who can make those shots, but those are still ******** shoots. Part of for example Lebrons greatnes is in taking easy shots. Drives, FT's and 3s are much much much more efficient that long 2's and Ingram needs to realize that or we should trade him before he looses all of his value.

[luckyman]

Whole point of my post is to present his "shot chart". By not taking 3's he is killing his/ours efficiency. No 3's no FT's is what is killing this team. CJ is the same. Only Z can save us with FTs and Trey with 3's.
Ingram is great at making though shots. There is maybe 3 guys in the league who can make those shots, but those are still ******** shoots. Part of for example Lebrons greatnes is in taking easy shots. Drives, FT's and 3s are much much much more efficient that long 2's and Ingram needs to realize that or we should trade him before he looses all of his value.

You should really practice making more coherent posts like this instead of "Jose is more important than Ingram" and "We only get the 10th seed with Ingram", which is complete nonsense.

Lest you need to be reminded this team had fallen all the way down to 12th in March while Ingram/Zion was hurt and those first few weeks Ingram came back from injury. His all-nba play that final month is the only reason they rose back up to as high as 7th in April. Otherwise it's deep lottery time.

I agree he needs to get to the line more, but as long as he playmakes with the ball in his hands and knocks down those mid ranges, he'll draw the defense past the 3 pt line anyway because they'll want the ball out of his hands ASAP.

I already posted the stat that he drew the 10th highest amout of double teams in the league last year despite only taking tthree 3 pt attempts.

But yes he needs to get those FT attempts back up to an average of at least 5/6 per game. A sweet spot would be 7 or more.

[Fedupfan]

13-7

I think we would all be happy with this. My issue is that they are still trying to figure out the roles for players and that should be done already. So, it may take them a while before they start being consistent.

[Fedupfan]

We've seen partial games - preseason. So, cannot conclude what 1st 20 games will be. Maybe let's wait and see before jumping to conclusions.

It’s mostly that the partial games we have seen have all been bad until this past one. The starters just don’t look that well to this point. If anything I can say is that the way the team looks so far, won’t lead to many wins. We have to hope it was only just “preseason”.

[Fedupfan]

sadly, 7-13

I sure hope not. The Saints have already taken its toll watching paint dry every Sunday.