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  1. #3251
    obviously Lauri is going to be unplayable some games, but he does add another dimension if he's going to take a short deal that doesnt come with much opportunity cost.

    if Myers Leonard can look good on a team with dominant inside scorers so can Lauri.

    Cant blame the Bulls for asking for a first but they'd be lucky to get anything more than a TPE

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    The NBA has reportedly opened investigations into possible tampering violations involving both the Kyle Lowry and Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade deals.

    Lowry was sent to Miami in exchange for Precious Achiuwa and Goran Dragic in a sign-and-trade move at the start of free agency, and the heat guaranteed Dragic's team option worth $19.4 million on Sunday, which allowed them to use him in the sign-and-trade.

    Ball's deal sent him to Chicago in exchange for Tomas Satoransky and Garrett Temple, but according to sources of Adrian Wojnarowski, that trade may look slightly different in it's final form after the league's investigation. Until the league completes their investigation, none of these deals can be finalized.

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    Is it yesterday again already?

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    Lauri is only 24. He played injured while he was 22 and played on a team that he had a frayed relationship with while he was 23. There's some very high potential there. I wouldn't mind a short term prove it deal.
    BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.

    BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.

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    Just no overpays.

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    I only posted yesterdays news because of the quote that had Woj saying the trade would probably change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrum View Post
    I only posted yesterdays news because of the quote that had Woj saying the trade would probably change.
    Yep. I saw and appreciated that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    Just no overpays.
    For real.

    Its not secret I'm not hugely optimistic about Lauri, but hey, maybe he does just need a change of scenery - it's rare, but sometimes that happens. Players just need to be somewhere new sometimes.

    If you can get him on the cheap and not give up assets, I can understand the attraction at least on paper: tall big, can shoot, good FT guy, is at least vaguely mobile.

    It's when the price starts going up that my alarm bells go off.
    Basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Genuine curiousity - but why do most of you guys want to keep adding average to slightly above average players who will just steal playing time from the young guys? Like, its already going to be hard to get Naji, Murphy, Didi, and Jones minutes - and stuff like that will make it impossible. Not to mention take away a few from Kira and NAW too.

    Lets just play the young dudes and if they are awesome, we happily give up that pick to Charlotte. If not, we keep it and have learned about who our young guys are. Isnt that the FAR better path?
    Would Lauri take time away from those guys?

  11. #3261
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse985 View Post
    Are we winning now or tanking? It doesn?t look like we are tanking, so playing Naji, Didi, and Jones significant minutes won?t win games. It would be nice to have depth and a decent bench. Young guys will eventually get minutes due to injury. Satoransky and Temple won?t be hard to unseat if these young guys are any good.
    Yeahhhhh... Somebody really over estimate our ability to be healthy. Just because we are healthy one season out of 15 doesn't mean you can never get enough bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    If the the freaking Lakers get Buddy

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-trade-pursuit
    They can’t be more heavy favorites. All this does is change a potential margin of victory. A committed Westbrook on the same team as LeBron and AD? That alone is enough to almost guarantee another title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    They can’t be more heavy favorites. All this does is change a potential margin of victory. A committed Westbrook on the same team as LeBron and AD? That alone is enough to almost guarantee another title.
    I'd actually argue that the Westbrook might lower the ceiling of an AD/Lebron team.

    He's a guy who can't really play off-ball in the half-court, plays defense about one game in ten, can't shoot, has woeful shot selection, etc.

    While having him as an on-ball option when Lebron sits definitely elevates their non-Lebron minutes, I feel like he might actually reduce the efficacy of Lebron-led minutes.

    Obviously depends on how Vogel staggers them and the lineups he uses, and whether Lebron can commit to being off-ball at times (unlikely, and probably undesirable tbh) but I feel like it's a very boom or bust strategy. Either the Lakers will cruise to a championship or they'll implode by January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Would Lauri take time away from those guys?
    I was wondering the same. Hell Lauri and jax can be the 2nd team bigs. Both can finish lobs on PnR and Lauri can stretch the floor to give Kyra room to run PnR with Jax. The 2nd team can be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDawg View Post
    I was wondering the same. Hell Lauri and jax can be the 2nd team bigs. Both can finish lobs on PnR and Lauri can stretch the floor to give Kyra room to run PnR with Jax. The 2nd team can be a problem.
    Yeah, I can see Buddy taking away time from those guys, but not Lauri. Actually, I think Lauri would fill a bench need.

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    I think lauri would be a great addition to the team and he has a ton of upside. Sometimes players just need to be placed in the right system.

  17. #3267
    We should take a swing at Lauri for two reasons if we can sign him to a favorable contract. Why?

    1. We are only assured of Val for only one year. Now hopefully, JAX will be ready by next year, but that's far from guaranteed.
    2. What do we do if Zion and his clan start singing the, "I Wanna Play in a Big Market Blues". We have absolutely nothing in the bullpen right now that we can rely on.

    Markkanen has talent; that's beyond reproach. The question is will be be satisfied being the first 'Big' off the bench.

    Lastly for those concerned about his defense. He'll fit in nicely on this team defensively; nobody plays it worth a damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I'd actually argue that the Westbrook might lower the ceiling of an AD/Lebron team.

    He's a guy who can't really play off-ball in the half-court, plays defense about one game in ten, can't shoot, has woeful shot selection, etc.

    While having him as an on-ball option when Lebron sits definitely elevates their non-Lebron minutes, I feel like he might actually reduce the efficacy of Lebron-led minutes.

    Obviously depends on how Vogel staggers them and the lineups he uses, and whether Lebron can commit to being off-ball at times (unlikely, and probably undesirable tbh) but I feel like it's a very boom or bust strategy. Either the Lakers will cruise to a championship or they'll implode by January.
    I think that's more dependent on on LeBron and AD being healthy than any implications that Westbrook may bring to the table. We know Westbrook is a very inefficient player, but he should flourish in LA if they can be healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pels4Life View Post
    I think lauri would be a great addition to the team and he has a ton of upside. Sometimes players just need to be placed in the right system.
    With Willie and our development staff, I would have little issues in getting him. He can't be worse than a lot of the guys we brought into to back up PF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taker597 View Post
    I think that's more dependent on on LeBron and AD being healthy than any implications that Westbrook may bring to the table. We know Westbrook is a very inefficient player, but he should flourish in LA if they can be healthy.
    Not really, I think the fit between Lebron and Westbrook is really rough. It could work, I can imagine scenarios where it would, but I can also imagine a bunch of scenarios where Westbrook gets asked to spot up while Lebron runs a PnR and that honestly sounds gross to watch.

  21. #3271
    Lol. I don't get this Lauri thing b/c couldn't you just add him to the Lonzo trade? Or they have to wait until the investigation is over? Is he just a last resort b/c why wasn't he just added before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    Lol. I don't get this Lauri thing b/c couldn't you just add him to the Lonzo trade? Or they have to wait until the investigation is over? Is he just a last resort b/c why wasn't he just added before?
    I think there could be a way to add him to the trade. It would entail taking Temple out and using part of the MLE for him. We likely would add Gabriel as well. It would all then likely depend on what Markkanen signs for (his 1st year money).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    I think there could be a way to add him to the trade. It would entail taking Temple out and using part of the MLE for him. We likely would add Gabriel as well. It would all then likely depend on what Markkanen signs for (his 1st year money).
    But why not just do all of this before plus wouldn't Temple get pissed didn't we sign him to an extension?

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    I hope we add Lauri if the price is right. A 24 year old big man who shoots 40% from 3 is something we can use. He can come off the bench and some offensive stability to our young bench players. He has his flaws but we don't need him to be a top 3 player for us.

  25. #3275
    Yeah plus if we do get Lauri and keep Hart. It would be Lauri, Hart, Kira, Jaxson and Naji coming off the bench. Not bad at all imo. A ten man rotation plus we still have Trey, Herb, Didi, Sato and Willie. Willie Green would have alot of options. I like it.
    Last edited by PELSGIRL; 08-08-2021 at 04:56 PM.

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