Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

The support has been trash because the team has been trash. If they actually act as though they want to win then fans will come out. When we were winning and getting to the playoffs in the CP3 days we had packed arenas. Not so much now. And for good reason

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You have to admit though that NO isn't a basketball city. When I still lived in NO I would visit Cooter Brown's quite often. There are a lot of TV sets there and once I wanted to watch a Hornets game which of course wasnt on any of the TV sets. I asked the bartender and he relucantly agreed to put the game on one of them.

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

You have to admit though that NO isn't a basketball city. When I still lived in NO I would visit Cooter Brown's quite often. There are a lot of TV sets there and once I wanted to watch a Hornets game which of course wasnt on any of the TV sets. I asked the bartender and he relucantly agreed to put the game on one of them.

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It's true, NO isn't a basketball town. We are a Saints -> LSU Football -> LSU Baseball ->Pelicans town. I still don't understand the logic of Tulane and UNO kids wearing LSU gear to class, but then again people are dumb.

Free agent forward Anthony Tolliver has agreed to a one-year, $3.3M deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell The Vertical.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 11, 2017

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

It's true, NO isn't a basketball town. We are a Saints -> LSU Football -> LSU Baseball ->Pelicans town. I still don't understand the logic of Tulane and UNO kids wearing LSU gear to class, but then again people are dumb.

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I live in Poland now. I have Tulane T-shirts and my kids have clothes with Saints fleur de lis and here nobody knows what that is :)

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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

Free agent forward Anthony Tolliver has agreed to a one-year, $3.3M deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell The Vertical.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 11, 2017

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That was a cheap one that could have been helpful.

I keep on hedging with the "don't know what Dell might be doing in the background" line, because it's true, but anybody not frustrated by Dell looking a lot like Dell for probably his final time just can't get frustrated. There are only a limited number of NBA caliber players out there, its not an infinite pool. And the ones Dell has already accumulated kinda suck. You just have to hope, blindly hope given his career long incompetence, that he's masterminding something significant in the background. The far distant background apparently where nobody ever sees or hears a peep.

If he's not, then when he's fired Pels fans should give him a healthy raspberry.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

That was a cheap one that could have been helpful.

I keep on hedging with the "don't know what Dell might be doing in the background" line, because it's true, but anybody not frustrated by Dell looking a lot like Dell for probably his final time just can't get frustrated. There are only a limited number of NBA caliber players out there, its not an infinite pool. And the ones Dell has already accumulated kinda suck. You just have to hope, blindly hope given his career long incompetence, that he's masterminding something significant in the background. The far distant background apparently where nobody ever sees or hears a peep.

If he's not, then when he's fired Pels fans should give him a healthy raspberry.

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To be fair, most of his moves come out of nowhere. So while he's more than earned a healthy skepticism, a lack of rumors definitely doesn't equate to a lack of activity by this front office.

Keeping going Detroit then we'll take Stanley Johnson with our Heild exception. Make it happen.

John Wall hasnt signed his extenson yet. It has been strangely quiet for the Pels. Maybe Dell read this article and is talking to Wall (together with Cousins:)) https://sports.clickon.co/2017/05/24...brewing-south/

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

You have to admit though that NO isn't a basketball city. When I still lived in NO I would visit Cooter Brown's quite often. There are a lot of TV sets there and once I wanted to watch a Hornets game which of course wasnt on any of the TV sets. I asked the bartender and he relucantly agreed to put the game on one of them.

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It's a basketball city depending on where you are. In my neighborhood everybody followed the NBA religiously when nola was nowhere near having a team.

The city has produced a few ballers too.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Like I said, I can see them going into the tax if a great player becomes available. However, I do not see them doing it just to get a good player. It would be an extreme case to get them to go into the tax.

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There is almost no way they aren't going into the tax next year when Cousins signs.

I think this is part of the reason we are trying so hard this year to not do it unless we have to.

42' article was a really good read on how it's not even the luxury tax itself but the hard cap that is such a problem for us.

Free agent guard Rajon Rondo met with Lakers president Magic Johnson in Los Angeles today, league sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 11, 2017

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope met with Lakers today, sources said. Several teams have expressed interest since he became unrestricted.

— Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) July 11, 2017

Apparently we've discussed a trade with the Pistons that would send Reggie Jackson here.

Sources: Pistons and Pelicans have discussed a potential trade of Reggie Jackson for E'Twaun Moore and Alexis Ajinca. Full story coming soon

— Michael Scotto (@MikeAScotto) July 11, 2017

Last I knew (haven't watched him since OKC), he was a very quick, ball-dominant guard with poor shooting but didn't seem to shoot a lot. Had a reputation as having a junkyard dog mentality and decent to good defense. Since then I know he's been seen as a bit of a headcase. Not sure what's changed or what's warranted so I am just looking at numbers. I've always been a huge fan of Jrue off the ball and having a guard that can collapse the defense. For a team with AD and Boogs, I think ideally you have a guy who can attack off the dribble and break that first layer of defense, and two shooters to kick out to who can move the ball. As many of them that are plus defenders, the better. Reggie could be that guy assuming he still has that quickness.

Still seems risky. I'd assume this move meant the price on Lin, and Bledsoe are too high, which is unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

You have to admit though that NO isn't a basketball city.

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I agree 1000% but the fans came out in big numbers when we were good. The problem is we were only good for a couple years, so hose years get lost.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I agree 1000% but the fans came out in big numbers when we were good. The problem is we were only good for a couple years, so hose years get lost.

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This city was electric when we made that run a while back...too far back. That Dallas series, the SKC was rocking. If I recall correctly, Jazzfest, the Zurich Classic AND a home playoff game took place on one of those Saturday nights. It was crazy wild downtown...in a good way. Put a competitive team on the court and watch. I can't wait for that to return.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Why should I believe either of you then? He makes assertions that this or that will happen. You say he doesn't know anything and you're certain of it.

You know something? Spill it. Otherwise, every one is talking out they ****** for attention.

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Wtf? I am stating that every single transaction that he clamored over like he knew has never come to fruition. I remember back to the Elton Brand offer that he said we put in for like 8.2 million and he went to another team for like 1.6 million. He has ALWAYS been WRONG! If you have never been correct but claim to be an insider then sir I will believe NONE of what you spew.

PS: I don't ever claim to know insider info at all because I am very proudly a causal fan. I come on this board for insight from you guys. I'm just a die hard new Orleans fan period.

You say you know for a fact...but all you have is conjecture. I mean. I'm not saying I 100% believe MM either. But whatever. It beats talking about absolutely nothing. I'm here to be entertained.

I know it lends more credibility when you make strong assertions in ALL CAPS but...yeah. You don't know for a fact either. Stead on.

KCP to the lakers. Rando may be next. I wonder if Clarkson is available?

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Originally Posted by tthier2

Wtf? I am stating that every single transaction that he clamored over like he knew has never come to fruition. I remember back to the Elton Brand offer that he said we put in for like 8.2 million and he went to another team for like 1.6 million. He has ALWAYS been WRONG! If you have never been correct but claim to be an insider then sir I will believe NONE of what you spew.

PS: I don't ever claim to know insider info at all because I am very proudly a causal fan. I come on this board for insight from you guys. I'm just a die hard new Orleans fan period.

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Preach! So agreed!

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope has agreed to a one-year, $18 million deal with the Lakers, sources tell ESPN.

— Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) July 12, 2017

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

You say you know for a fact...but all you have is conjecture. I mean. I'm not saying I 100% believe MM either. But whatever. It beats talking about absolutely nothing. I'm here to be entertained.

I know it lends more credibility when you make strong assertions in ALL CAPS but...yeah. You don't know for a fact either. Stead on.

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I had no problem entertaining his bull either but the problem for me came in when he talked down to others. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion but when you act like yours is almighty and you are the GOD of nba knowledge but everyone else is sheep, them in my eyes I lose all respect for you plus I will bring up the fact that you have never been correct. That's why I can say for a FACT that he doesn't know squat about this organization. Only a fool would think otherwise.

MM sucks at life. It is like the one thing we all agree on. Back to FA.

NOLA would be a basketball city if the franchise could make some runs. Wait. That wasn't FA. Whatever.

Why is his name even in our mouth's let's just forget about him

so basically its trade for a guard or nothing this year, or maybe late in the season make a trade. nothing really out there now in FA.

can we win 45 games with JH, EM, SH, AD, DC ? bench assuming cook, crawford, diallo, AA, miller


even if we pull off a trade, bench is light.

Sources: Knicks, Rockets working on Carmelo Anthony trade scenarios that include four-team deals. Sides motivated but no agreement imminent.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 12, 2017

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

Sources: Knicks, Rockets working on Carmelo Anthony trade scenarios that include four-team deals. Sides motivated but no agreement imminent.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 12, 2017

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With the Nets not getting KCP, I would bet they are going to get involved to absorb a contract (Ryno)?

we want nets to absorb our bad contracts not rockets lol

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

You have to admit though that NO isn't a basketball city. When I still lived in NO I would visit Cooter Brown's quite often. There are a lot of TV sets there and once I wanted to watch a Hornets game which of course wasnt on any of the TV sets. I asked the bartender and he relucantly agreed to put the game on one of them.

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This happened to me a few times with the Saints games before Drew Brees - so it can change

someone proposed this trade on machine. this would be hilarious!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaw3jza3

Free agent Thabo Sefolosha has agreed to a two-year, $10.5M deal with the Utah Jazz, league sources tell The Vertical.

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Originally Posted by Andynola

This happened to me a few times with the Saints games before Drew Brees - so it can change

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I believe that things can change and I am actually sure the city will support Pelicans once they start winning but I dont believe you the same thing happened to you with the Saints :)

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

someone proposed this trade on machine. this would be hilarious!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaw3jza3

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it would be a disaster of the century for Knicks

I was a Saints season ticket holder from 2006 to 2016. I was a college student when I got them. They were insanely cheap. They were practically having to give then away.

Also, growing up in Lake Charles, the local channel actually showed Cowboy games over Saints games.

So I believe it. If this team starts winning consistently, and they are setting themselves up to do so, the city will become a Pels city.

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

Free agent Thabo Sefolosha has agreed to a two-year, $10.5M deal with the Utah Jazz, league sources tell The Vertical.

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I'm upset about this one. I think he could have really helped us.

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

I'm upset about this one. I think he could have really helped us.

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I would prefer Afflalo

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

I'm upset about this one. I think he could have really helped us.

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He got more than I expected.

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

I'm upset about this one. I think he could have really helped us.

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Same.

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

I believe that things can change and I am actually sure the city will support Pelicans once they start winning but I dont believe you the same thing happened to you with the Saints :)

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Yeah, that's just bs. Even in the Saints darkest days, the city was obsessed with them.

A preseason game for the Saints probably draws a bigger number than a Pels playoff game.

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Originally Posted by ULsaint

Yeah, that's just bs. Even in the Saints darkest days, the city was obsessed with them.

A preseason game for the Saints probably draws a bigger number than a Pels playoff game.

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Of course it does based simply on the available seats.

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Originally Posted by ULsaint

Yeah, that's just bs. Even in the Saints darkest days, the city was obsessed with them.

A preseason game for the Saints probably draws a bigger number than a Pels playoff game.

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Prior to Katrina, Saints games NEVER sold out. Each week you'd cross your fingers and hope and pray for a corporate sponsor to buy out the remaining tickets so the game wouldn't be blacked out.

Here's the best trade I can come up with. It's a four teamer so there's no way it would happen
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7rvfqvm

Houston gets Melo, loses only Ryno (There's almost no way for them to get Melo without losing Ryno). I don't mind helping Houston get Melo because I don't think they'll be a threat. I think they'll be about as good as last year and be an overrated team that performs about as well as they did last year unless they pull off some other magic. Houston is thin but they could play a pretty nice death-light lineup of CP3, Harden, Ariza, Melo, and Capela that should be able to score whenever they want. Their defense is just as subject as it was last year and although I can see how the offense could work, there are a lot of guys that want to operate in very different ways and I don't get how that would work. I'm sure they'd have to throw in a pick or something for the Knicks to accept it since the Knicks are crazy and can't seem to ever decide what they're doing, even though they should clearly be rebuilding around Porzingus (who I think is vastly overrated but he's their best shot). I actually kind of like the Knicks roster here. I would really like it if they hadn't signed Hardaway Jr to that ridiculous deal. Still I think they'd be a Rondo signing away from a playoff lock in the East:

Rondo/Hardaway/Randle
Lee/Ntilikina
Dudley/Thomas
Anderson/Onuaku/Long
Porzingis/Noah/Ajinca

A lot of stretch shooting here with room to operate. Going from Rose and Melo, two players who wouldn't pass to Kristaps and then getting Rondo, a player who probably hurts your team by looking to pass too much, would be funny. Don't know if Hardaway would be upset at coming off the bench but I think the roster works better with defense, playmakers, and shooters around Porzingus and then allow Hardaway to play point for ~20mpg and let him throw up hot garbage and score 20ppg and hope the rest of the cast can play defense enough to tread water.

Phoenix dumps a ton of salary and gets a nice check from the other teams here who go into the tax. They owe Dudley $20 Million and instead pay $8 Million, maybe (but doubtfully) rehab and trade QPon at all star, and get a useful big they might be able to flip around all star as well.

We'd get rid of Ajinca and QPon's contracts while acquiring a player that can play center without being terrible and doesn't mind a bench role, and a guy (I remember thinking he was athletic) who shoots at the rim or from the three point line (decently) and can play stopgap SF. We basically traded two bench players who were unlikely to play well for two who could without killing ourselves with salary.

Then we go to Brooklyn and throw every future pick for Lin (my preferred PG target since he can hit a three and seems humble enough to not need to chuck shots while still being brave enough to take them) and Quincy Acy, who is kind of a Dante Cunningham player who can hit the corner three well and (from my memory) plays decent defense and is a passable rebounder. Still resign Cunningham if possible and our roster looks like this:

Lin/Cook/Jackson
Holiday/Crawford
Hill/Acy/Kuzminskas
AD/Diallo/Cunningham
Cousins/O'Quinn/Asik

I think Brooklyn like Rondae Hollis Jefferson but I'd try and pry him if possible but wouldn't make the deal hinge on it. You hope Asik gets decent enough to move before having to pay Boogie but you probably have to stretch him but that team is probably around a 6th seed (if healthy) and might win a playoff game for the first time since 2010.

Seems like Pelicans want to be apart of the Melo to Houston trade? No indication on players though.
http://nypost.com/2017/07/12/knicks-...icans-want-in/

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Originally Posted by shanesy

Seems like Pelicans want to be apart of the Melo to Houston trade? No indication on players though.
http://nypost.com/2017/07/12/knicks-...icans-want-in/

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Just looked on trade machine and don't see one player i'd want. Maybe Ariza?


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Exactly, reports are a 4th team is needed so hopefully that other team does.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Just looked on trade machine and don't see one player i'd want. Maybe Ariza?


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I'd love Ariza here
Perhaps he is old, but his year here was the last year we had a good SF.
Add Ariza and Jackson and things would look bettee

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Just looked on trade machine and don't see one player i'd want. Maybe Ariza?


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Ditto.

My best guess, we're giving up the pick that is needed, hopefully offloading Asik, and getting back Courtney Lee who is no longer needed in New York. The 4th team has to take Anderson?

I don't see this getting done. Too complicated. And I don't see how the Rockets do it without ditching Anderson and no one wants Anderson. Not enough picks in this deal to ditch Anderson and satisfy Knicks.

I don't see how Rockets only giving up anderson. Would expect someone like cappella to be going to knicks? Also Anderson to Pistons would make sense, seems like a Van Gundy guy. We could be getting Jackson and giving up salary to Knicks with Detroit and Houston giving up assets?

Any rumors as to who the 4th team is?