Blow it up! Burn it down! Start completely over!

[13 - 3]

Get rid of everything and start from scratch. It seems to have done wonders for Houston. Lets do the same. Start with getting a real head coach.

[donato]

If you blow it up, whatever coach you get won't be there by the time you're competitive. I'm not against blowing it all up. I don't think there's much chance we do that though.

[Impose]

No need to blow it up when you're a lottery team already haha.

The West is so brutal. Can't see this poorly constructed roster making it to the post season.

Have a clunky year, let Joe figure out who's staying and who's going. Hire a coach that fits with the guys you're building around.

[fullcourtpress]

Blow it up for what? to get the 7th pick next year lol. im past 50 yrs old man, i'd like to see a conference finals before i die lol

[JJackisangry]

The problem is we suck at tanking. We have really lucked into the top pick of the lottery twice and I doubt we will get a 3rd number one pick. Griffin doesn't work here anymore

[13 - 3]

The Dallas Mavericks are the favorites to land Herb Jones, per @BovadaOfficial

Dallas Mavericks +350
Los Angeles Lakers +500
San Antonio Spurs +550
Houston Rockets +700
Denver Nuggets +900 pic.twitter.com/uCb1H04Kfb

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) May 31, 2025

[donato]

The Dallas Mavericks are the favorites to land Herb Jones, per @BovadaOfficial

Dallas Mavericks +350
Los Angeles Lakers +500
San Antonio Spurs +550
Houston Rockets +700
Denver Nuggets +900 pic.twitter.com/uCb1H04Kfb

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) May 31, 2025

They're a sports book just trying to create action. But by all means, feel free to throw your money away.

[13 - 3]

They're a sports book just trying to create action. But by all means, feel free to throw your money away.

Dumars “Everyone is replaceable”????

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/z...rs-per-report/

There are no untouchables in New Orleans," O'Connor wrote in his latest NBA Mock Draft. "League sources say the Pelicans are gauging the market for everyone on their roster. They very well could end up keeping their core pieces, but it appears the Pelicans are looking into taking different paths this summer depending on what opportunities become available."

[donato]

Dumars “Everyone is replaceable”????

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/z...rs-per-report/

Correct. He's gauging interest around the league as he should be. Do you really think he's going to trade everyone???

[13 - 3]

Shams doubled down this morning on some unreal trades he is hearing. Still gave no mentions other than Brunson could get moved to get Giannis to Knicks

[13 - 3]

Correct. He's gauging interest around the league as he should be. Do you really think he's going to trade everyone???

Looks at what OKC Thunder, Houston Rockets did a couple of years ago if you don’t think blow ups work .

[donato]

Looks at what OKC Thunder, Houston Rockets did a couple of years ago if you don’t think blow ups work .

In the second post of this very thread I literally said I'm not against blowing it up.

[ml wave]

Looks at what OKC Thunder, Houston Rockets did a couple of years ago if you don’t think blow ups work .

We don't have the competent ownership/front office/coaching staff to make a blowup work. We're not content to bottom out for a few years and collect assets and develop players. If circumstances beyond our control lead to a bad season/top draft pick, we get one halfway decent player and then immediately push all of our chips in for a run at the 6-10 seed.

[AD Zen Master]

We don't have the competent ownership/front office/coaching staff to make a blowup work. We're not content to bottom out for a few years and collect assets and develop players. If circumstances beyond our control lead to a bad season/top draft pick, we get one halfway decent player and then immediately push all of our chips in for a run at the 6-10 seed.

The problem I have is, other than a few fluke seasons, we have been wallering around since CP3 left town. I can't really take much more...I've already kind of checked out.

Can't imagine what Season Tickets look like going into this season.

[DroopyDawg]

The Dallas Mavericks are the favorites to land Herb Jones, per @BovadaOfficial

Dallas Mavericks +350
Los Angeles Lakers +500
San Antonio Spurs +550
Houston Rockets +700
Denver Nuggets +900 pic.twitter.com/uCb1H04Kfb

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) May 31, 2025

The Lakers Why are they in everybody's trade predictions as if they have assets to trade for anybody. And no... nobody wants Reeves.

[DroopyDawg]

Looks at what OKC Thunder, Houston Rockets did a couple of years ago if you don’t think blow ups work .

If only we had Sam Presti...

[bradael]

It's a bit odd to point to Houston as a way to rebuild when they lucked into 4 straight years with a top 4 pick during a time when even the best odds only have a 52% chance to get a top 4 pick from the lottery.

Pelicans have had a top 4 pick only 3 times in their history. And all of them were far enough apart that they never played together. Like Houston recently, OKC also had 3 straight years of a top 4 pick. Imagine if CP3 and AD's timelines were together. AD one year after lucking into the #1 pick and then CP3 at the #4 pick the next year. That would have been a better team than the one OKC put together after lucking into Durant one year and then getting Westbrook the following (and then Harden the year after with another top 3 pick).

[JJackisangry]

Carlisle is about to do what Pop did by winning two titles with massive underdogs but with two different teams. Coaching does make a massive difference. No doubt about it. I can't blame everything on the players we have had these past few years. It starts from the top. Until we start getting decisions right we won't compete. I'm not going to judge Dumars prematurely, but it isn't one that inspires me with confidence. Let's hope for the best. At least he didn't hire Gentry yet.

[fullcourtpress]

Carlisle is about to do what Pop did by winning two titles with massive underdogs but with two different teams. Coaching does make a massive difference. No doubt about it. I can't blame everything on the players we have had these past few years. It starts from the top. Until we start getting decisions right we won't compete. I'm not going to judge Dumars prematurely, but it isn't one that inspires me with confidence. Let's hope for the best. At least he didn't hire Gentry yet.

Carlisle did a great job this year and is quite a coach, but there's no way he is winning a title this year. Despite being tied in the finals, I simply cant conceive them beating the Thunder

[donato]

Carlisle is about to do what Pop did by winning two titles with massive underdogs but with two different teams. Coaching does make a massive difference. No doubt about it. I can't blame everything on the players we have had these past few years. It starts from the top. Until we start getting decisions right we won't compete. I'm not going to judge Dumars prematurely, but it isn't one that inspires me with confidence. Let's hope for the best. At least he didn't hire Gentry yet.

We can only keep an open mind. I've loved everything Dumars has said anyway to this point.

[ml wave]

It's a bit odd to point to Houston as a way to rebuild when they lucked into 4 straight years with a top 4 pick during a time when even the best odds only have a 52% chance to get a top 4 pick from the lottery.

Pelicans have had a top 4 pick only 3 times in their history. And all of them were far enough apart that they never played together. Like Houston recently, OKC also had 3 straight years of a top 4 pick. Imagine if CP3 and AD's timelines were together. AD one year after lucking into the #1 pick and then CP3 at the #4 pick the next year. That would have been a better team than the one OKC put together after lucking into Durant one year and then getting Westbrook the following (and then Harden the year after with another top 3 pick).

That's because the Pels have never had ownership with any sort of patience or long term championship vision. We get lucky in the lottery and then it's full speed ahead trying to make the playoffs immediately.

[DaFranchise80]

That's because the Pels have never had ownership with any sort of patience or long term championship vision. We get lucky in the lottery and then it's full speed ahead trying to make the playoffs immediately.

While I agree with having an ownership group that has patience or a long term championship vision, we also have to consider how “casual” or impatient a sizable portion of the Pelicans fanbase is. Are they willing to wait out a rebuild considering quite a few of them are season ticket holders?

[msusousaphone]

We're in a weirdly exciting spot IF Giannis leaves Milwaukee.

We have some really solid players in Herb, TMIII, and even DJM. I mean, that guy is a borderline all-star in the same ilk BI was. He had a rough stretch fitting in before his injury but I think he'll turn it around.

Missi really had the look of someone who can continue to grow and develop. He'll probably be another solid player and we're sitting nice at pick 7 to land another solid player. It'll take a few seasons for those guys to really come into their own but that's the makings of a play in and possibly even 6th seed eventually. I mean, two to three seasons ago we were looking at OKC as a team of just solid players and one borderline star. This recipe could turn into that same dish


But if Giannis moves...those Bucks swaps/pick suddenly becomes gold. That's high end lottery territory there. That's being able trade for or draft another star to catapult us back into contention. Giannis leaving, even not coming here is the key to our future. There's a lot of other teams in worse spots.

[ml wave]

While I agree with having an ownership group that has patience or a long term championship vision, we also have to consider how “casual” or impatient a sizable portion of the Pelicans fanbase is. Are they willing to wait out a rebuild considering quite a few of them are season ticket holders?

I'm sure that's a big reason why they do what they do (though I'd point out an even more stubborn refusal to rebuild with the Saints) but to answer your question with a question...is the product they've put out on the floor for 10+ years significantly better than what a rebuild would offer? Are we any less of a league-wide laughingstock than the Hornets or Kings or Bulls or whoever the jokes of the league are?

[ml wave]

We're in a weirdly exciting spot IF Giannis leaves Milwaukee.

We have some really solid players in Herb, TMIII, and even DJM. I mean, that guy is a borderline all-star in the same ilk BI was. He had a rough stretch fitting in before his injury but I think he'll turn it around.

Missi really had the look of someone who can continue to grow and develop. He'll probably be another solid player and we're sitting nice at pick 7 to land another solid player. It'll take a few seasons for those guys to really come into their own but that's the makings of a play in and possibly even 6th seed eventually. I mean, two to three seasons ago we were looking at OKC as a team of just solid players and one borderline star. This recipe could turn into that same dish


But if Giannis moves...those Bucks swaps/pick suddenly becomes gold. That's high end lottery territory there. That's being able trade for or draft another star to catapult us back into contention. Giannis leaving, even not coming here is the key to our future. There's a lot of other teams in worse spots.

If the Bucks do not get control of their picks back you'd have to assume that they'll stay in win-now mode and get back good players in a Giannis trade. If they can get their picks back (from us and/or Portland) then it would make sense for them to tank/rebuild.