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  1. #51
    Not gonna lie, pretty disapointed of the outcome of the lottery. Edgecomb measured very well, real star potential here.

    Now draft history tells us that a player selected in the late lottery will probably ends up being better than at least one member of the top 3. It's time to identify him and it will be a real test for the new regime, it's the range in the lottery where you can see what the front office really value skills wise.

    Derik Quenn has the size of an average PF and is too slow to guard on perimeter. Low post players are quite successful in the last few years in college, so it's hard to buy on his statistic production. Honestly he's far from a sure thing, if he improves his shooting and his passing there might be a path for him for becoming an impact player but there's also lot of red flags.

    Richardson's measurements are also real concern, he's small for even be a starting lead guard. I was expecting Donovan Mitchell's type but he's clearly smaller.

    It's say go for the upswing pick with one of Fears, Jakucioni or Demin, but Fleming is also quite enticing and may be overlooked just because of his three years in college. I'd like one of the 4, Knueppel and Maluach are more meh to me but there's some real upside here too so I won't be mad either.

  2. #52
    I am predicting Maulach or Fears.

  3. #53
    nbadraft.net has us getting Tre Johnson at #7 still. For me, that would be freaggin ideal at this juncture



    could kon kneuppel be chris mullin? can he move laterally fast enough/

    Can Jerimiah Fears shoot the three well enough to be your starting PG? His free throws kinda suggest so, but below 30% is terrible. How tall is he really?

    I didn't see Jase's measurements yal are referring to.... is he at least 6'3"? I do know he's a savant of sorts with the ball reminding me of jamal Murray, but if he's tiny and all he will get abused

    Kasparas Jakucionis is a better 3pt shooter than his stats last year, but his turnover rate was terrible, is he fast enough to get it done?
    the austin reeves comparison on nbadraft.net is frightening

    Is Khamanl Maluach better than Ives Missi ? Can he shoot?

    despite Derek Queen's impressiveness, I can't buy pairing him with Zion?

    thomas sorber= 6'10 and no three point shot= no thanks besides we got Ives Missi already taking the almost 7'0 spot who can't shoot


    rasheer flemming..... i think he is a great fit, although 7 is kinda high

    egor demin... i got no idea, i do think he will be good someday

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse985 View Post
    I am predicting Maulach or Fears.

    I can see this.

    what about Knueppel?

  5. #55
    somebody good will be there

    as of today, id probably pick

    jeramiah fears (assuming tre johnson is gone) Personally im a believer in Jase despite his lack of height, he does have a better wingspan than fears, but barely

    only because we need an above average ball handler/ lead guard

    I think Kon knueppel and Maluach may be better prospects. knueppel is chris mullin 2.0
    Maluach had the best plus minus around last year, higher than flagg at +15 per 100

    AND my boy Rasheer Flemming's wingspan actually was 7' 5". Lethal 3pt shooter and shot blocker is what we have been looking for
    but again, with Murray hurt we simply must find a PG.

    how do yal feel about Egor Denim?



    some recent draftees at or beyond #7
    Halliburton 12
    tyrese maxey 21
    SGA 11
    jalen williams 12
    tyler herro 13
    laurie markennen 7
    donavan mitchell 13
    franz wagner 8
    trey murphy 17
    Last edited by fullcourtpress; 05-13-2025 at 02:04 PM.

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    I can see this.

    what about Knueppel?
    Knueppel reminds me of Korey Kispert or Doug McDermott. A shooter who is limited athletically. I wouldn’t pick a player like that at 7. I would much rather a true big bodied rim protector that can still move or an athletic scorer with upside.

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    somebody good will be there

    as of today, id probably pick

    jeramiah fears (assuming tre johnson is gone) Personally im a believer in Jase despite his lack of height, he does have a better wingspan than fears, but barely

    only because we need an above average ball handler/ lead guard

    I think Kon knueppel and Maluach may be better prospects. knueppel is chris mullin 2.0
    Maluach had the best plus minus around last year, higher than flagg at +15 per 100

    AND my boy Rasheer Flemming's wingspan actually was 7' 5". Lethal 3pt shooter and shot blocker is what we have been looking for
    but again, with Murray hurt we simply must find a PG.

    how do yal feel about Egor Denim?



    some recent draftees at or beyond #7
    Halliburton 12
    tyrese maxey 21
    SGA 11
    jalen williams 12
    tyler herro 13
    laurie markennen 7
    donavan mitchell 13
    franz wagner 8
    trey murphy 17
    Chris Mullins was an elite shooter that could play in the frontcourt in his era. At 6’ 7” 210, Kneuppel is an athletically limited backcourt player.
    Last edited by Darkhorse985; 05-13-2025 at 02:17 PM.

  8. #58
    Sorber intrigues me with his passing ability, he may not stretch the floor with 3pt but the passing could open the court in other ways.

    Same with Yaxel Lendeborg. But at 7 he would be a huge reach. I wouldn't mind moving back to net an additionnal pick to have a chance to draft a combination of players like Saraf and Lendeborg.

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    somebody good will be there

    as of today, id probably pick

    jeramiah fears (assuming tre johnson is gone) Personally im a believer in Jase despite his lack of height, he does have a better wingspan than fears, but barely

    only because we need an above average ball handler/ lead guard

    I think Kon knueppel and Maluach may be better prospects. knueppel is chris mullin 2.0
    Maluach had the best plus minus around last year, higher than flagg at +15 per 100

    AND my boy Rasheer Flemming's wingspan actually was 7' 5". Lethal 3pt shooter and shot blocker is what we have been looking for
    but again, with Murray hurt we simply must find a PG.

    how do yal feel about Egor Denim?



    some recent draftees at or beyond #7
    Halliburton 12
    tyrese maxey 21
    SGA 11
    jalen williams 12
    tyler herro 13
    laurie markennen 7
    donavan mitchell 13
    franz wagner 8
    trey murphy 17
    The last thing on earth we should be doing is worrying about holes on the current team. Just draft the best player, it's not like anyone on the team now will even be there after whoever we draft finishes his rookie contract.

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse985 View Post
    I am predicting Maulach or Fears.
    My annual dream is that we don't throw every available resource into a big that can't shoot. Still waiting for it to come true so....Maulach it is, I'm sure.

  11. #61
    Why we would pick a center? We drafted Missi last year and is still a player in development, why we want two centers from two drafts in a row? No sense.

    Johnson, Fears or Kueppel.



    #1 option: Johnson, if we are gonna trade CJ MCcollum plus we don't have BI points anymore and we need 3pt shoot to continue with Zion game. Perfect fit. Type of player that scores 16-18ppp since the first year. Potential to be one of the best scorers in the league.

    #2 option: Fears, our future pure PG, but rookie PG's needs more time to adapt plus he is not a capable 3pt shooter to fit with Zion. I've read he is great in the P&R, could be a better option definitely than MCcollum PG.

    #3 option: Knueppel if we want to add more role key players as Herb or Trey, very good shooter to pair with Zion but I have doubts in the defense... a role player with the #7 pick?

    Johnson seems the perfect fit, if not Fears or Knueppel could be good options as well. Honestly I think Johnson might be heading to Washinton, they need offense scorers.
    Last edited by Spanish_pelican; 05-14-2025 at 04:39 AM.

  12. #62
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    I think it?s very unlikely Johnson makes it to 7 at this point. Some not sold on Missi?s defensive rebounding and rim protection. I guess the thought is you could keep both (if drafting Maluach) or trade Yves.

  13. #63
    i think knuppel is an afterthought by many, as he is stocky, Caucasian, sorta unathletic like Doncic and Jokic, but if you watched Duke games this year, he enhances everything he does on court to winning,esp on the offensive side of the ball, similarly to Dyson Daniels effect on the defensive side of game. my favorite is Johnson, but won't be displeased with Knuppel

  14. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish_pelican View Post
    Why we would pick a center? We drafted Missi last year and is still a player in development, why we want two centers from two drafts in a row? No sense.

    Johnson, Fears or Kueppel.



    #1 option: Johnson, if we are gonna trade CJ MCcollum plus we don't have BI points anymore and we need 3pt shoot to continue with Zion game. Perfect fit. Type of player that scores 16-18ppp since the first year. Potential to be one of the best scorers in the league.

    #2 option: Fears, our future pure PG, but rookie PG's needs more time to adapt plus he is not a capable 3pt shooter to fit with Zion. I've read he is great in the P&R, could be a better option definitely than MCcollum PG.

    #3 option: Knueppel if we want to add more role key players as Herb or Trey, very good shooter to pair with Zion but I have doubts in the defense... a role player with the #7 pick?

    Johnson seems the perfect fit, if not Fears or Knueppel could be good options as well. Honestly I think Johnson might be heading to Washinton, they need offense scorers.


    At this point I'm in.complete agreement

    No.way Tre makes it thougj

  15. #65
    I think Fears might end up being the second best player in this draft. So if he's there at 7, I'm hoping the Pels pick him. He easily has the best handles in the draft. His free throw percentage suggests his shooting can be really good despite the low 3 point shooting percentage at this point. And his jump shot looks fine, unlike plenty of players that come into the league with a broken looking jumpshot that people always hope will be fixed, which never happens. He took a raggedy ****** team to the tournament even though they lost the first game.

    The expected #2 & 3 pick teammates couldn't even do that. I don't care how bad the rest of your team is, how do you not make the tourney with 2 of the 3 supposed best players in the country. Even Chris Paul took a group of nobodies to the sweet 16 as a freshman. Basically it makes me consider both of them as eventual Kuminga level players. They'll get theirs but they don't make winning plays.

    I think Fears can be a Tony Parker-esque type of player in the league. And another point about his three point shooting percent in college... it is remarkably similar to Tyrese Maxey. Reality is, the best players from this draft are all going to come down to work ethic once they get that NBA contract and to this point Fears might have one of the best work ethics in this class as well.
    Last edited by brad01; 05-15-2025 at 07:28 AM.

  16. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    My annual dream is that we don't throw every available resource into a big that can't shoot. Still waiting for it to come true so....Maulach it is, I'm sure.
    I actually agree. A decent non shooting defensive center can literally be drafted in the second round nearly every draft. I’d take the G or F with highest upside in the top 10 every time. A top 10 center needs to be able to shoot or be Shaq. But we have Joe Dumars running the show, and I highly suspect we will be trying to recreate the 90s.
    Last edited by Darkhorse985; 05-15-2025 at 06:44 PM.

  17. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Spanish_pelican View Post
    Why we would pick a center? We drafted Missi last year and is still a player in development, why we want two centers from two drafts in a row? No sense.

    Johnson, Fears or Kueppel.



    #1 option: Johnson, if we are gonna trade CJ MCcollum plus we don't have BI points anymore and we need 3pt shoot to continue with Zion game. Perfect fit. Type of player that scores 16-18ppp since the first year. Potential to be one of the best scorers in the league.

    #2 option: Fears, our future pure PG, but rookie PG's needs more time to adapt plus he is not a capable 3pt shooter to fit with Zion. I've read he is great in the P&R, could be a better option definitely than MCcollum PG.

    #3 option: Knueppel if we want to add more role key players as Herb or Trey, very good shooter to pair with Zion but I have doubts in the defense... a role player with the #7 pick?

    Johnson seems the perfect fit, if not Fears or Knueppel could be good options as well. Honestly I think Johnson might be heading to Washinton, they need offense scorers.
    Dumars didn't draft Missi. He'll have no allegiance to him.

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    Egor Demin has height and creation you can't teach. Shot looked good at the combine. I'm intrigued.

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    Sixers Expected To Listen To Offers For No. 3 Overall Pick


    https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...3-Overall-Pick

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    That article lays out a good argument for staying put at seven. Flagg is on his own tier...then Harper is beneath him but also on his own tier....and since Ace didn't measure out as well as hoped he joins the third tier which is like six players deep.

  21. #71
    I'd say that the top 3 picks are available.
    Harrison needs Dallas to win now, and no matter the number 1 pick it's incredibly hard to do in year 1, especially with unreliable stars like Davis or Irving.
    The Spurs will find themselves with a logjam in the backcourt and they seem to focus on winning asap with Wemby. Maybe they would prefer to move Castle or Fox, but for the right player they might move the 2.
    And for the sixers Paul George and Joel Embiid will not get any younger so they need players that contribues to winning next year, so not rookies.

    Now for the pelicans in order to trade for one of this pick they'd have at least to include Zion or Murphy in the package. So basically to pivot to a full rebuilding so I'd be surprised if one of this pick ends up in NO.

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    No way Dallas trades 1.

  23. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    Egor Demin has height and creation you can't teach. Shot looked good at the combine. I'm intrigued.

    im impressed as well. rewatched his highlights. im a fan

  24. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    Sixers Expected To Listen To Offers For No. 3 Overall Pick


    https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...3-Overall-Pick
    Not really surprised. I imagine they end up picking and keeping a player though because the offers probably won't be good enough. I'm not really impressed with the options that are expected to go 3-5. And analytically (remember their GM is huge on analytics), they probably aren't either. Perhaps they're even looking at a minimum of flipping picks with Utah and getting other assets. Let's say for example if Ace Bailey is the assumed #3 pick, but they think Tre Johnson will be just as good, if not better, then try to get something in return rather than just taking Tre Johnson at #3. The #5 pick also makes almost $2m less per year, which helps keep them out of the tax penalty.

    Not saying they would do this, but flipping Paul George for Lauri works also works. So if they really regret Paul George's contract and are less concerned about Lauri's due to his age, they could be hoping for #3 and Paul George for #5 and Lauri and maybe even additional assets.

  25. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    No way Dallas trades 1.
    If half of the nonsense he spew after trading away Luka i.e. envisionning to win the title in the next couple of years, he has to trade the pick away for a veteran star player.

    Now he's half as smart as he thinks he's, he should keep it.

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