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  1. #1376
    Let’s agree to this. Griffin’s handling of BI this offseason will determine his legacy as the president of basketball operations for the Pelicans. Also, let’s agree that the decision is pretty much between paying BI or Trey Murphy. Both will not be able to extend with the Pels due to the amount being paid to each and both playing the same position. I am taking TMII at $25m a year over BI at $50m a year 100 percent.
    Last edited by Darkhorse985; 07-06-2024 at 06:55 PM.

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    You guys are crackin me up lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse985 View Post
    Let’s agree to this. Griffin’s handling of BI this offseason will determine his legacy as the president of basketball operations for the Pelicans.
    No.. His legacy entails the entirety of his stent with the Pels. Not one decision with one player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    I think you're going to be ok. I think the one thing the Pels won't (aside from the absolute absurd, almost troll level idea that they just let BI walk for nothing next season) is sign him to a huge contract. It's either "accept your role as the #2 who has to prove it or you get traded".
    To which BI's response is ''to where? You spent all last summer trying to move me and nobody was buying. You're stuck with me, so pay up and watch me ball.''
    Basketball.

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    Sounds like Herb's letting Dejounte keep the number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Can't argue with that. I think Brook has a few more years to give though.
    He's 36 and already shown to be declining. Hard pass on giving up a first.

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    Well yea.. obviously he's not worth a first. But he can still add value to a squad with a limited role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    No.. His legacy entails the entirety of his stent with the Pels. Not one decision with one player.
    Paying BI cap locks this team. There will be minimal room for movement if BI, Zion, and Murray are all getting paid. Extending BI says this is the team we think has the best chance to win.

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    Y’all gone ignore them stats huh lol, cj won’t be on the books for long don’t we pay him almost 40 Ms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse985 View Post
    Paying BI cap locks this team. There will be minimal room for movement if BI, Zion, and Murray are all getting paid. Extending BI says this is the team we think has the best chance to win.
    I don't think that's what it means. The league is making it difficult now for teams to acquire 3 stars, it will become increasingly more difficult to get one. So if you have a number 2 or 3, or a 1, it's best to make an effort to keep them. Or not move them for a combination of role players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algiersraised View Post
    Y’all gone ignore them stats huh lol, cj won’t be on the books for long don’t we pay him almost 40 Ms
    How many games (sample size) do those stats come from? Like 20 games? So you want to role with that as the basis to pay BI 50+ million a year and hard cap the team? Did you watch the OKC series? Please post BI’s stats from that.

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    Lol. "Like 20 games". Yes. The way to counter stats when you can't find your own stats to support your stance is to just arbitrarily makeup a flaw with the other stats.

    They played together most of the season.

    And no one has advocated maxing out Ingram. Bruh. This making up stuff no one said is old. If the Pels were going to give BI that much he would have been resigned as soon as this all starred.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    To which BI's response is ''to where? You spent all last summer trying to move me and nobody was buying. You're stuck with me, so pay up and watch me ball.''

    Maybe. But I think it's not that we can't trade him it's that's we're holding to see where his mind is because what the Pels really want is for him to buy in as the sidekick.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse985 View Post
    Paying BI cap locks this team. There will be minimal room for movement if BI, Zion, and Murray are all getting paid. Extending BI says this is the team we think has the best chance to win.
    Yes. Despite fanbase pessimism. This is a great team that was sitting third in the West and playing great basketball before injuries had them slide where they finished one game behind the Mavs.
    Last edited by msusousaphone; 07-06-2024 at 07:49 PM.
    BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.

    BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.

  13. #1388
    So you want to not pay him off of 4 games while he knowingly was playing injured
    you see how crazy that is honestly sounds
    Just like people bringing up phoenix
    Just on the other end of the spectrum

    Most people get caught up in the moment and that’s okay it’s recency bias though
    Imagine the praises he got when we played phoenix and
    And Zion was doing 720 windmills in pregame just to say he’s too hurt to play lol


    Can we just see how it all play out

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    DeMar is a King. Which, I think, removes the Kings from the Lauri/BI sweepstakes, insofar as they were ever a real part of them. They give up Harrison Barnes for him.

    DeMar's a good player but I don't really see the fit for SAC. Might be a bit disruptive.

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    The amount of cope in this thread, imagining that Ingram will change his ways, even if he is extended at a price lower than the max, is actually hilarious.

    Some of y'all haven't been paying attention. There have been numerous reports about his unwillingness to change his playstyle. You think signing him to $40 mil instead of $50 mil is going to suddenly make him a different basketball player?

    It'll be a mistake, even at a lower cost. I love Brandon as a player, he eats/sleeps/breaths basketball, he's embraced this team.. but his style of hooping isn't conducive to winning basketball. It's just not. Especially not with this roster construction.

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    3yr/$74m according to Woj

    3rd year partially guaranteed and there are bonuses for being an all-star (per Haynes)
    Last edited by Pelicanidae; 07-06-2024 at 09:33 PM.

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    If BI stays on this team either Herb Jones has to come off the bench or Brandon Ingram has to embrace being a 6th man. Neither of those things really make sense but I think I would pick the latter option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    If BI stays on this team either Herb Jones has to come off the bench or Brandon Ingram has to embrace being a 6th man. Neither of those things really make sense but I think I would pick the latter option.
    Ingram is no 6th man lol.. You guys really need to be serious. Why would either have to come off the bench?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    Yet another example of the media having no idea what's actually going on with the team. They play everything so close to the vest it's mind boggling.
    That was pretty much assumed as the Wizards wanted to use an expiring TPE and maintain their MLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Ingram is no 6th man lol.. You guys really need to be serious. Why would either have to come off the bench?
    Because there are only 5 players on the floor at the same time? Murray and CJ are locked in as the starting guard tandem. So either Zion plays center or one of BI/Herb is going to the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algiersraised View Post
    And even Giannis shoots 3s to keep the defense honest
    Also as much as z goes to the paint how often is he getting the calls lol he just getting beat and wore down
    Does it really keep the defense honest? Most teams back off and let him shoot it as they want him to take the 3. He is a career 28% 3pt shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    I think it just means they have something else brewing. I wouldn't worry about it. The front office isn't that inept to allow the team to go into next season without bigs.
    Not really. They just needed to match salary in the Atlanta deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Bucks are asking for a first round pick for Brook Lopez.. He'd actually be pretty good with Zion.
    At his age and salary, it would have to be a pretty heavily protected 1st. However, matching salary my be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    Because there are only 5 players on the floor at the same time? Murray and CJ are locked in as the starting guard tandem. So either Zion plays center or one of BI/Herb is going to the bench.
    And why would CJ be locked in as a starter? Your issue is with CJ starting, not Ingram. You seriously can't think Ingram should be a 6th man under any circumstances. I get that a lot of you have issues with BI, but lets all try to be more objective.

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