2024 Offseason Thread

[13 - 3]

I’mbetting we gonna regret letting him go lol

Very possibly. Should of took that Sixers deal

[13 - 3]

Sounds like the Kings trade went stale too

[Pelicanidae]

Free agent center James Wiseman has agreed on a two-year contract with the Indiana Pacers, sources tell ESPN. Wiseman was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2020 NBA Draft. pic.twitter.com/UBA9Yhlejx

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2024

Thank God.

[Pelicanidae]

He should be cheap. However, if we trade for Wendell Carter, we may need a better backup to fill in when Carter is out.

He's cheap because he's hot garbage, thankfully he's off the board so Griff's been saved from himself.

[hornetsrebirth]

Sounds like the Kings trade went stale too

Good... never understood what we'd be getting from them that would be better than keeping Ingram.

[13 - 3]

Speaking of Westbrook. Clippers are working with him to find another home.

Hmmmm

[13 - 3]

Naz is the dream! I'm holding out hope!

They probably want Herb too.

[Pelicanidae]

Good... never understood what we'd be getting from them that would be better than keeping Ingram.

Nothing, the point of the Kings trade (which I'm not even a fan of, I just think you have to be fair to the arguments) is that DJM is already the primary BI replacement, and that the Kings deal would be a 3 teamer getting a C as well as Barnes and picks.

So you could imagine it less as ''we're trading BI for Barnes?!'' and more as ''We traded BI, Dyson, and Nance for DJM, Barnes, WCJ, and 2 first round picks''. Which I think most people would agree isn't a completely unfair return.

[Pelicanidae]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-rumo...-knicks-76ers/

New Scotto article. Here's the relevant Pels part:

The Warriors, Kings, Spurs, Timberwolves, and Pelicans are among the teams who’ve expressed interest in trading for Markkanen, league sources told HoopsHype.

Not really much, but it's something I guess.

[13 - 3]

Another strikeout

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/new...rs-per-reports

[Nichols]

Nothing, the point of the Kings trade (which I'm not even a fan of, I just think you have to be fair to the arguments) is that DJM is already the primary BI replacement, and that the Kings deal would be a 3 teamer getting a C as well as Barnes and picks.

So you could imagine it less as ''we're trading BI for Barnes?!'' and more as ''We traded BI, Dyson, and Nance for DJM, Barnes, WCJ, and 2 first round picks''. Which I think most people would agree isn't a completely unfair return.

Problem is it just wouldn't be true.

[Nichols]

Another strikeout

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/new...rs-per-reports

After acquiring DJM I wouldn't have thought he was an option.

[Pelicanidae]

Free agent F/C Moe Wagner is returning to the Orlando Magic on a two-year, $22 million deal, sources tell ESPN. Wagner averaged 10.8 points and 4.3 rebounds in 80 games for the Eastern Conference’s fifth seed. pic.twitter.com/ZZTIHbzaB3

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2024

[Pelicanidae]

Problem is it just wouldn't be true.

If you send out those parts and get those things in return, I dont really care which direction each outgoing part heads, personally. Obviously they're technically separate transactions but what matters is the result more than anything, and its functionally the same either way. Same players out, same return in.

[Nichols]

News of no big men left in FA might actually be good news for those who want Ingram traded. Front office might feel compelled to move Ingram for a solid/ to moderately good big and pieces.

I don't see the Pels getting a good big if Ingram isn't included in a trade package. I could be wrong though.

[Freyfamilyreuni]

I’m holding out hope that we can somehow pry Jarrett Allen free from the Cavaliers. There’s a lot of rumblings out there that he might not be a fit for the new Coach’s plans.

[Nichols]

I’m holding out hope that we can somehow pry Jarrett Allen free from the Cavaliers. There’s a lot of rumblings out there that he might not be a fit for the new Coach’s plans.

If the Pels really wanted him I'm sure they'd have him. He's a solid big, not premier. The Pels have premier assets.

[hornetsrebirth]

BI for Lauri Markkanen ******** it lets do it. We can go small ball.

Murray
CJ
Herb or Trey
Zion
Lauri

[Pelicanidae]

Free agent guard Monte Morris plans to sign a deal with the Phoenix Suns, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Suns lock in a reliable point guard entering his eighth NBA season. Morris has averaged 10 points, 39% 3-point shooting and 3.8 assists over career. pic.twitter.com/d1AUNCYIKm

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 2, 2024

Good move for the Suns, Monte Morris is an excellent backup point.

[Pelicanidae]

BI for Lauri Markkanen ******** it lets do it. We can go small ball.


Murray
CJ
Herb or Trey
Zion
Lauri

From the sounds of it, BI would not be close to enough. They're asking for an AD level return, from what little has been discussed publicly.

Also - worth mentioning, though I don't think it's a deal-ender - but Lauri is not a 5. Yes, he's tall, but he doesn't defend 5s, he doesn't protect the rim, and he's not even a particularly great rebounder for someone of his size. The Jazz have almost exclusively played him alongside another big for a fairly good reason, imo.

[RaisingTheBar]

We would have to be OK losing Trey or Herb with BI for Lauri and I’m not sure if the org is good with parting with either one. I also cringe at that front court defensively. But obviously drool thinking about the offense.

[msusousaphone]

After acquiring DJM I wouldn't have thought he was an option.

Griffin reported we're moving to an anti-big roster.

/sarcasm

[Nichols]

We would have to be OK losing Trey or Herb with BI for Lauri and I’m not sure if the org is good with parting with either one. I also cringe at that front court defensively. But obviously drool thinking about the offense.

For reasons highlighted by Pelicanidae, it would be a bad move in my opinion.

[Nichols]

Griffin we're moving into an anti-big roster.

Yuk.. I hate small ball.

[Freyfamilyreuni]

From the sounds of it, BI would not be close to enough. They're asking for an AD level return, from what little has been discussed publicly.

Also - worth mentioning, though I don't think it's a deal-ender - but Lauri is not a 5. Yes, he's tall, but he doesn't defend 5s, he doesn't protect the rim, and he's not even a particularly great rebounder for someone of his size. The Jazz have almost exclusively played him alongside another big for a fairly good reason, imo.

Are we all pretending that Willie Green doesn't coach this team. Now way in hell is Griffin going to hand Willie Lauri to pair next to Zion. No rebounding, no rim protection, and no preventing players from getting to the rim. Zion doesn't pass the ball out enough to make up for what we're going to lose in the above categories.