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    20+ years of pain ragincaucasian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Griff isn't going to do that.

    He's going to do what he does every draft, which is nothing, and then he'll take someone with the pick and act like that alone is a difference maker.
    Yeah, gotta keep it milquetoast around here. We wouldn't want fans to actually get excited. This team is going nowhere with this leadership. The owner is a golddigger who knows nothing about business or basketball. Doomed for the foreseeable future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragincaucasian View Post
    Yeah, gotta keep it milquetoast around here. We wouldn't want fans to actually get excited. This team is going nowhere with this leadership. The owner is a golddigger who knows nothing about business or basketball. Doomed for the foreseeable future.
    Yves Missi: the difference between play-in, and contender. In Griff's eyes. Apparently.
    Basketball.

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    You guys think the Hawks want to pair BI and Risacher? I don't know much about the kid. Some draft profiles I read make it sound like they would pair well together and other ones make me think they're redundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    It's a situation that only happens once every ten years or more?

    Well, guess how long it's been, my friend.
    Well no. Its happened LAST YEAR. The likelihood of it happening on consecutive years is far less than 50%.

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    Lakers did not draft Bronny? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertM320 View Post
    Well no. Its happened LAST YEAR. The likelihood of it happening on consecutive years is far less than 50%.
    In a random year, maybe, but when you can actually look at the teams in question and make a judgement based on the reality of the rosters of those teams instead of looking at historical trends that don't apply to the actual state of the league right now, it's fairly clear to see that running it back without improvement on this roster is not a recipe for success.

    We'll win 45 to 50 games, again, as long as we can get a decent JV replacement, and not improve in terms of the seedings. That's just how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    You guys think the Hawks want to pair BI and Risacher? I don't know much about the kid. Some draft profiles I read make it sound like they would pair well together and other ones make me think they're redundant.
    They're fairly different players in terms of preferences and strengths - Risacher is a real 3pt guy, for one - but in terms of weakenesses they compound pretty badly.

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    So that dream might be dead?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertM320 View Post
    Well no. Its happened LAST YEAR. The likelihood of it happening on consecutive years is far less than 50%.
    And we were three games out of 4th place......

    Yet here we are seeing other posters act like we finished 12th. Lulz

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    That's another one of the better options off the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    And we were three games out of 4th place......

    Yet here we are seeing other posters act like we finished 12th. Lulz
    We finished 3 games from 10th. You're acting like there's a lot of wiggle room here and there isn't. Yes, we could easily have been better if a few bits of bad luck went our way, but we could easily have been worse too. We were not some stable quantity throughout the year like OKC or Denver or Minnesota.

    Forgive me for wanting the team to be a lock instead of a ''well, if everything goes right and some other teams have issues, we could potentially get there'' situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    So that dream might be dead?



    And we were three games out of 4th place......

    Yet here we are seeing other posters act like we finished 12th. Lulz
    Honestly we are just boring. We should be all in on getting Trae because he has said he wants to be here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    So that dream might be dead?



    And we were three games out of 4th place......

    Yet here we are seeing other posters act like we finished 12th. Lulz


    Nice spin

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    Genuinely considering not bothering to watch the rest of the draft after our inevitable boring Missi pick.

    This draft night has been one of the least interesting, slowest, most ponderous draft nights I can remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragincaucasian View Post
    Honestly we are just boring. We should be all in on getting Trae because he has said he wants to be here.
    Bobby Marks said nobody is interested in Young. Depends on who you believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    We finished 3 games from 10th. You're acting like there's a lot of wiggle room here and there isn't. Yes, we could easily have been better if a few bits of bad luck went our way, but we could easily have been worse too. We were not some stable quantity throughout the year like OKC or Denver or Minnesota.

    Forgive me for wanting the team to be a lock instead of a ''well, if everything goes right and some other teams have issues, we could potentially get there'' situation.
    We were solidly in third or so before the injuries crept in. We were coming hard on the Lakers and scaring the league before Zion dropped out in the play in. All under the age of 26 except for CJ and Nance so we will be better.

    The truth is that this is a top three team when healthy. When healthy. It doesn't matter who we draft or if Zion is paired with BI, Young, Murray, Mitchell, or some other superstar......it's ALL going to come down to if he and whomever he is paired with can be healthy for the postseason.

    And haha. I made you agree with 13-3. I win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    We were solidly in third or so before the injuries crept in. We were coming hard on the Lakers and scaring the league before Zion dropped out in the play in. All under the age of 26 except for CJ and Nance so we will be better.

    The truth is that this is a top three team when healthy. When healthy. It doesn't matter who we draft or if Zion is paired with BI, Young, Murray, Mitchell, or some other superstar......it's ALL going to come down to if he and whomever he is paired with can be healthy for the postseason.
    And yet we have no reason to believe that will be the case because you're having to use the ''when injury crept in'' caveat about our healthiest season of the last 5 years lmao

    This team needs a serious modification if it wants to be a stable winning with actual championship aspirations. I simply do not believe, however, that those aspirations exist in the FO or ownership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post


    Genuinely considering not bothering to watch the rest of the draft after our inevitable boring Missi pick.

    This draft night has been one of the least interesting, slowest, most ponderous draft nights I can remember.
    I'm at my son's AAU practice, and it's kept my attention more than ESPNs presentation. This is awful. No highlights, just draftees hugging 100 people and slow walking to the stage. Awful

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    Missi it is

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    We're up. Collier is best player available, but we've been attached to Missi in talks for ages.

    DaRon Holmes would be an interesting option as well.

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    And yeah, Missi it is.

    He's fine. Big, explosive athlete with good hands. Sets good screens. Finishes with authority. Reliable simple decision maker. Pretty raw everywhere else.

  22. #622
    Pick is done at least

  23. #623
    Quote Originally Posted by markid View Post
    Pick is done at least
    That's David Griffin looking at the roster like ''and my work here is done. Ready for the season!''

  24. #624
    Good pick. I like it.

  25. #625
    Bye bye Larry Nance

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