And you ARE a smart guy, pelifan.
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And you ARE a smart guy, pelifan.
BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.
BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.
Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara
well i guess pelicansreport is an elite board also because i also work in the league....i work in the training department for the spurs....
next poster up,,whats your occupation in the league to confirm that you are elite?...
Dude makes up a board and says it’s filled with former people in the league. It’s kind of weird but he may have some type of communication issue. It’s not normal to act like him. Of course, the one person who is a “good poster” isn’t here anymore. He’s living in a complete fantasy. He wants to be important so bad, but it’s clear that he isn’t that knowledgeable and thinks he is. It’s entertaining to read some of the things he says. He just says the exact opposite of what anyone says to try and prove a point. Even if he knows it’s wrong, he still tries to talk it up like it’s a known fact. If I can give anyone advice, it would be to not act like Michael McNamara.
When a pseudointellectual neanderthal has the nerve to call everyone else stupid- hah. Hope your failed potential isn’t keeping you awake at night Mikey boy.
Asperger's. Which they did away with....so it's really just considered high functioning autism, now. I used to think he was narcissistic personality disorder but he would make more of an effort to keep his fan base right off the cuff instead of straight up insulting them if that held true.....some of the signs point to a drug addiction but it's too consistent. But he definitely shows multiple signs of autism.
I work with a lot of adults and kids diagnosed with autism. I really do just feel bad and want to reach out to him, now.
Last edited by msusousaphone; 12-29-2019 at 09:38 PM.
But also, let's not let MM distract us from how bad this thread is aging. Lol
It's not aging badly at all. Gentry needs to go at the end of the year. Was true three weeks ago, is true now.
Basketball.
Yep. The only reason we stand a shot at a playoff seed is
A. Zion
B. The league is very top heavy. That 8th seed is very vulnerable with a Carmelo’d Portland
Gentry didn’t stop being an awful head coach
This is why, on page 4, PBG posted a thing basically saying ''this is why you keep your coach until the end of the season: we've looked good recently. How deep do we need to go in the playoffs to retain Gentry?''
and I said
It was true then, it's true now. Don't let yourself be fooled: Gentry hasn't suddenly figured out how to coach after more than 15 years in the job. We've just gotten healthy, had some good luck, and some injured opponents (Rockets tonight with no Harden, Westbrook, or Capela, Pacers last night with no Brogdon, Oladipo, for example).
Just how many more times does this con artist gotta con you Mrs. B? I fully expect the same exact crap to happen next year if we retain him. He is incredibly consistent at being mediocre.
I wouldn't call him a con artist. I think he's a decent guy who is doing his best, but who just isn't that good at this particular thing. That's not a con artist imo, a con artist is tricking you on purpose.
You’ve been compromised.
You'll never take me alive.
Gonna be some croooooooow eating happening up in here.
Will keep refreshing periodically.
Sound like you just want to hype a different message board. 100 times better? Come on Man.
Serious question here.
If Gentry deserves praise for the improved defense over the last handful of games, which you seem to believe he does, then do you accept that he deserves the blame for the bottom 5 defense we've had up until this point in the season?
If not, why not? Why is it that we have to give him credit when things go well, but we aren't allowed to place any blame at his feet when things go badly?
Last edited by Pelicanidae; 12-30-2019 at 12:28 AM.
The last few games will allow the Pels to do what was always going to be the best course of action here: "transition" Gentry into a front office/consultant role and hire the coach they want to lead this team for what is hopefully the next decade or more.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Don't you dare bad mouth my dude, again!
Because this is one of the youngest teams going into the season AND one of the teams with the least amount of continuity. Remember this isn't JUST a team with the most amount of player turnover we are also installing a new defensive coach's system. We also didn't have our defensive stalwart in Favors and are missing Zion who will eventually become an even better defense stalwart. We also played one of the hardest SoS during that time. We were destined to start with an abysmal defense.
This isn't anything new I'm saying. I've been preaching the lack of experience, lack of continuity, and missing defensive pieces the entire season. I've been posting the "calm down, folks" and "allow things to gel" stuff for months. I should be allowed a small bit of strutting as my forecast is coming true. Let me frolic a bit, man. Gah!
I don't believe in Gentry but I'm not worried in him stunting our young players growth. Giannis had Larry Drew and Jason Kidd. If the Pelicans are deadset on being competitive, Gentry is not that guy, but there's no rush imo. I dont want to miss out on the next Budenholzer to become available again. Would be good to see what's out there first unless you have some hot shot assistant that needs an opportunity to prove themselves.
That was why I qualified it with asking how far does he need to go in the post season to keep his job?
Seriously, would the conference final be enough? How about the finals? I get that these things are super unlikely but you never know what this team will look like with Zion. So again I ask, how far does Gentry need to go in the post season to keep his job?
I say if we can make it to the second round he stays.
Griff will probably tell you he stays no matter what unless we start tanking again. I think those days are behind us now barring injury. (knocks on wood)
Last edited by P_B_&_G; 12-30-2019 at 01:44 AM.
At this point, if we could sneak into the 7th spot, which can happen, we would draw the Nuggets......who we seem to match up very well against. I see them falling to #3, though. And I don't see us reaching 6.
Maybe.....
I'm not an NBA insider, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night! Soooo, I'm not smart, but I play one on TV. Dos Equis is the beer of choice for this most interesting man in the world.
The fact that we're young and inexperienced is one thing: I said to people before the season just as much as you did that even if we have the roster for a top 5 defense (which I think we do, at least on paper) it would take until at least Christmas before the defense started clicking before defense is something that relies heavily on chemistry and experience which takes time to develop.
That said, there is a tangible difference between a defense that is clearly not ready and underperforming, and a defense which is just badly put together in the first place. For the majority of the season, that's what we've had so far: a defense that just isn't constructed with any kind of consideration for the roster we actually have had. It's easy to say that Favors is out, so the defense is going to be bad. Sure. But do you not think that if you've designed your defensive scheme to absolutely require one single guy, without whom everything collapses, maybe your defensive strategy is not well adapted to the team overall?
Losing Favors was always going to make the defense take a hit. He's an elite defensive big. But should it be the difference between a top 5 defense and a bottom 5 defense? God no.
Like I said, we have people coming back from injury and we have an easier schedule from hereon out, and people are going to allow that fact to fool them, as if the first half of the year never happened and as if Gentry hasn't produced awful defensive teams for 4 of the last 5 years, and it's going to end up with Gentry getting kept on beyond this season.
Oh yeah I wasn't dissing you or anything, just referring to the conversation we'd had.That was why I qualified it with asking how far does he need to go in the post season to keep his job?
Seriously, would the conference final be enough? How about the finals? I get that these things are super unlikely but you never know what this team will look like with Zion. So again I ask, how far does Gentry need to go in the post season to keep his job?
I say if we can make it to the second round he stays.
Griff will probably tell you he stays no matter what unless we start tanking again. I think those days are behind us now barring injury. (knocks on wood
I think Gentry needs to go, frankly, regardless of how well we do this year (outside of something absolutely ridiculous, like finishing the year with a 30 game winstreak and winning the Finals, which I guess is technically possible but will almost certainly not happen). Gentry isn't a good coach, imo. He's a guy with a system, and if the system has the right players slotted into it, plus a little bit of luck, that system can win games. But it isn't versatile, it isn't adaptable, it isn't innovative anymore, it isn't creative or intimidating to anyone.
We have a very easy close to the year: our final 20 games are so are the closest NBA games get to being ''gimme'' games. We have a flawed roster, but it's one with talent on it, at least when everyone is healthy. You expect a strong finish, with that going on, pretty much regardless of who your coach is.
The thing to look for when regarding coaching hires is that you have to look past the raw W/L results and look at the process. Gentry's process is busted. So he's gotta go.
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