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    Golden State having to deal with injuries? My how the universe is so cruel to them (dripping with sarcasm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I went with Raptors in 6 to start the series. I still think that's totally possible.

    Klay or KD may be back next game, but it's totally possible with the shortened rest time between game 3 and 4 that they won't.

    If they go down 3-1, it's goodnight for Golden State.
    I mean with the extent of the Warriors injuries,
    Toronto in 6 was a good guess now.

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    The Warriors dynasty exists in large part because other teams got injured. It's only fitting that it ends because they got injured.

    2015, Warriors first ring: Played us in the first round. Jrue injured, didn't even play 20 minutes a game. Played Memphis in the second round, Mike Conley had a broken face and Tony Allen was plagued with a hamstring injury. Played the Rockets in the WCF, no Patrick Beverley. Played Cleveland in the finals: no Kyrie Irving, no Kevin Love.

    2016: Warriors lose in finals: They play Cleveland again in the Finals, but this time they have Kyrie and Love, and the Warriors lose in 7.

    2017: Warriors second ring: Play Blazers first round. Nurkic is out with a fibular fracture. Play Utah in the second round, George Hill only plays in one game before his toe injury takes him out of the series. Play San Antonio in the WCF, down 20 before Zaza injures Kawhi, taking him out of the series. No Tony Parker, who has a torn quad. Face Cleveland again in the finals.

    2018: Warriors third ring: Play San Antonio in first round. Kawhi still isn't playing due to the Zaza injury the year before. Dejounte Murray can't play even 20 minutes a game, and Tony Parker can barely play 15 due to a combination of age and injury recovery. Second round they play us again. Demarcus Cousins is obviously out, achilles exploded. They get insanely good whistles. WCF, they play Houston: Chris Paul gets injured, allowing them to steal the series in the clutch. Cleveland again in the Finals.

    2019: This run: No injuries in the first two rounds. Play Portland in the WCF, Nurkic is again out due to serious injury. Play Raptors in the finals: Kawhi is still nursing his injured leg, very obviously.

    Obviously I never wish anyone hurt, but to be honest it's kind of just karma that they're getting injuries at this point. They've been largely healthy for the last 5 years and have been thrown against injured, hobbling, broken teams again and again and again. People talk about Lebron getting a cakewalk to the finals every year, but at least when he played the Raptors Lowry and Derozan were healthy. Paul George's Pacers were largely healthy. Golden State has just been walking through a hospital ward.
    Basketball.

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    Wow a part owner

    https://deadspin.com/report-the-old-...ors-1835298769


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    Someone said if Lowry had walked into Stevens office and shoved him, he'd have been arrested.

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    Same media that is against us getting Zion , now wants to put an asterisk on the Raptors if they win a championship because the Warriors have injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Of course the entire world was waiting to see what Lebron had to say. He needs to just shut up. The NBA is handling it without his input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    I love how this man thinks he is the owner of the League. I just wish he shut his mouth.

    The NBA did what they had to do. LeBron needs to have his input on literally EVERYTHING.

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    I know someone that works as an usher at The SKC . He would tell me they allow the big money rollers to do whatever they wanted to do. The reason being if they would correct the individual misbehaving, The individual could file a complaint and the usher would automatically be fired. The reason being he paid a large sum of money to be there. The Director of Event Services for SKC is a big moneyman. Looks like the NBA is trying to change that bad trend by some arena manager’s.

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    Another thing is if I would have done something like this and not being rich or a minority owner I would have been thrown in jail.

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    I know that it's just because it's The Picture that has been identified with that event, but I still don't like the fact that the image being used to present this incident is with Kyle Lowry looking like the aggressor and Stevens looking like the cowering victim. Not a fan at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I know that it's just because it's The Picture that has been identified with that event, but I still don't like the fact that the image being used to present this incident is with Kyle Lowry looking like the aggressor and Stevens looking like the cowering victim. Not a fan at all.
    I thought the same. I also feel like Stevens got off a little easy on this one in terms of punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I thought the same. I also feel like Stevens got off a little easy on this one in terms of punishment.
    I think I understand Lebron’s point too.

    Last edited by 13 - 3; 06-06-2019 at 07:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post

    It should be noted, his wife took a swipe at a live ball as it was going out of bounds. I don't know, the episode represents a whole new class of arrogance and entitlement that the Warrior fan base and entire Bay Area exhibit. I'd say it represents the whole of California, but realize the good people of Fresno and Bakersfield suffer enough.
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    Stevens shoved him.

    For a shove he has to pay half a million and can't participate in a past time he clearly loves enough to invest serious money in. That seems like more than enough.

    We gotta stop being a society that's so quick to try to up the punishment threshold for offenses that don't merit it. That's part of the mentality that lead to US having the highest incarceration rates in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    Stevens shoved him.

    For a shove he has to pay half a million and can't participate in a past time he clearly loves enough to invest serious money in. That seems like more than enough.

    We gotta stop being a society that's so quick to try to up the punishment threshold for offenses that don't merit it. That's part of the mentality that lead to US having the highest incarceration rates in the world.
    On the flip side. Then you are ok if Lowry clocked him for shoving him? Without rules and order we collapse as a society. I see it quite a bit in my line of work.

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    https://deadspin.com/the-warriors-ar...-th-1835308763

    Under LeBron’s post, Isaiah Thomas wrote, “Make an example out of him.” Lou Williams wrote, “I’m with you on this one 100 percent.” On Twitter, Rudy Gay wrote, “Kyle would be suspended and fined If the roles where reversed.” Jared Dudley tweeted, “Rest of the finals isn’t good enough!”

    NBA players have tremendous power and influence over their sport, and no one has more of either than LeBron James. Stevens might belong to the ownership class, but the players have the leverage in this situation. The ire Stevens has drawn from players, combined with a broader rise in scrutiny of the ways some NBA fans feel entitled to treat players, makes it unlikely that this story will just fade away on its own. At this point, the easiest thing for the Warriors to do is just buy the knob out of his shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildlifeAirGrp View Post
    On the flip side. Then you are ok if Lowry clocked him for shoving him? Without rules and order we collapse as a society. I see it quite a bit in my line of work.
    Nah...

    I think the punishment he got is appropriate. I think it's severe. I take exception with folks who think the Stevens dude should have gotten more than a half mil fine and a 1 year ban. That's crazy to me. Did pimp slap Lowry? Did he drop a Dusty Rhodes elbow?? Nah... he shoved him. You don't even get kicked out of the club for shoving a dude the way he shoved Lowry.

    We need to settle down going to extremes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    Nah...

    I think the punishment he got is appropriate. I think it's severe. I take exception with folks who think the Stevens dude should have gotten more than a half mil fine and a 1 year ban. That's crazy to me. Did pimp slap Lowry? Did he drop a Dusty Rhodes elbow?? Nah... he shoved him. You don't even get kicked out of the club for shoving a dude the way he shoved Lowry.

    We need to settle down going to extremes.
    No matter how you want to sugarcoat it, he assaulted a player. A normal fan would be banned for life, but this is an NBA executive which makes this even more egregious, in my opinion. The latter part is why I feel the punishment doesn't fit the crime. He should know better.

    Also, this guy is a Billionaire, so I doubt he will be sweating that fine they gave him.

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    A billionaire getting fined $500k is like me getting fined 50 pence.

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    Again... the urge to want to inflict punishment is what I quibble with. It's a bad look. And it's entirely subjective. If dude crashes into Beyonce and Jay Z shoves him, nobody is calling for Jay Z's head today. Lowry probably doesn't even respond to being pushed in the same way. If this was Drake, people would want to lynch him, because people don't like Drake. If it's me, there's no way I get a $500k fine, and I also don't get banned from Smoothie King Center "for life".

    Ron Artest didn't get a lifetime ban for fighting fans in the stands!

    We're getting stupid and reactionary as a society. I can't believe somebody said this dude "assaulted" Lowry. lolololols

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    If you think we're just ''getting'' stupid and reactionary, rather than ''have been stupid and reaction for like, 500 years'', then you're a touch slow to the party here.

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