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I don't think they need to add anybody except maybe some depth and/or length.
Especially if Boogie os out of that boot and moving around on the court by August.
Really want to see a Cousins/AD/Mirotic lineup against the Warriors for 5 minutes. Especially if they are forced to walk McGee or Zaza out there. Pretty sure it would destroy the lil Rockets too.
Last edited by luckyman; 05-08-2018 at 12:48 PM.
This team needs a rim protector when AD is not in the game. DeMarcus is one of the most skilled offensive big men but lacks the defensive IQ or athleticism to be an above average rim protector. How many times did teams have scoring runs on the Pelicans when AD was out of the game and DeMarcus was left to be the lone big man?
This may sound crazy but maybe someone like Nerlens Noel would be ideal to come in, while AD rest, and roam the paint to cover for DeMarcus defensive deficiencies. Just ask Noel to concentrate his energy and efforts on D.
Also, if there was a way to somehow get Mikal Bridges from Villanova in the draft, he is the ideal "3 and D" wing that the Pelicans need to start over E'twan. He has a 7 foot wingspan and could play/defend the 2 or 3. Him Jrue and AD would be lock things down.
As others have said, don't see bron going to 76ers. And if so, I'm sure Covington would have no problem being a 6th man for a true contender, a la Iguodala.Originally Posted by Creative
Porter would be a great fit, but with that huge contract, don't see it happening. Plus, even if they were to trade them, I think another team could offer much better. And who would be the fillers in this case? The only contracts that could be added to match Porter's 26-mil would be Solo or Mirotic's, neither seem like 'fillers'. Solo would decrease the value, could need to add another pick. Mirotic is good, but yea he could be the main piece to even that up.
Seems like except the scenario of George opting in and requesting trade to the Pels, the FO is likely to add key role players rather than any players with near 20mil salaries.
Hmm, between Noel's character concerns and his desire to sign for a huge contract and start, I don't see him and his agent choosing the Pels nor Dell/GM choosing to sign him.
Any idea for the Pels to somehow trade for around the 7th pick in the draft? Don't see a way for that somehow to happen. I'd re-direct the off-season dreams elsewhere.
''Here is a realistic dream player. May be a serious sleeper. Projected as high as end of first round to not even top 100 by other mocks. 6'6" with 7' 2" wingspan 200 lb SF prospect that can guard 1-3 positions. Local boy, Melvin Frazier out of Tulane.
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If Cousins decides he wants out, getting a lottery pick and somehow landing DeAndre Ayton or that dude Bohmba from Texas would give us options. Also Michael Porter.
If Cousins wants out we are adding vets, not picks.
Honestly, looking at the age of the Warriors core, Durant is 29, Curry is 30, Thompson and Green are both 28.
We have AD at 25, Jrue and Niko are 27, and Boogie is 28. I say run it back and keep tinkering with the bench. Try to find a legit 3 and D wing. Rinse and repeat until the Warriors get old or break up.
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You can do both.
Regarding Noel: At this point, no one is giving him the contract he thinks he deserves. I think reality hit him in the face this past season when the Mavs gave him a lot of DNPs in the box score. He can be had on a bargain contract and let him come in hungry so he can prove himself. I just threw his name out there. Really, this team needs a backup rim protector when AD is out the game. Any suggestions?
Regarding Bridges: There is likely no way to get him. I just think he’s the prototype for what the Pels need: A young guy with big game experience, could potentially start and guard the 3, great defender, doesn’t need to score 20 to contribute.
Have any suggestions? George isn’t coming here. He’s already packed his bags for LA. Ready for the bright lights and to bring a championship to his hometown.
You "can" do anything. But what has our front office ever done that makes you think if Cousins leaves we would try to add through the draft?
We can't sit back and wait for the warriors to crack..we got to fight fire with fire somehow and force them to break.....
I wasn't on the Harrison Barnes wagon 3 years ago but now on this team,,he would be help we need at the 3....I would offer Niko to Dallas for Barnes so Niko can get his money and replace Dirk....we can find another pf but our problem is getting a legit 3 and Barnes is that......with that trade we have a better chance at getting him over pg wanting to come here...
I don't see pg checking his ego to come here and ring chase but who knows it may happen...come this off season we all may be shocked at who is signed to this team we didn't expect.....
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Let me rephrase from "you can do both" to there is no such thing as not doing both. On some degree at least. When have picks not been a part of a trade? Not many trades are purly player for player with filler. Usually picks are just sprinkled in as a garnish, really.
Depending on whomever such a trade would be negotiated with, I say why not also grab a talented player? That isn't the goal, but if we actually do trade Cousins, that'll be part of my personal focus.
have to get rid of AA and Hill before anything happens.
i think we may be able to push them hard if cousins is 85-90% of his former self. Possibly able to knock them off if we can get a legit SF. I would be on board with trading Niko for Barnes, he would be an excellent piece and fill a ton of needs. But I also think landing a 3 and d oriented SF while keeping Niko might be enough to take the Warriors down. If not, our window will be open after theirs closes. That was more of what I meant, not that we should try to wait them out but that our core is younger and should be viable longer until they fall off.
See, a guy like PJ Tucker would work, can stand there and knock down an open 3 in crunch time when they double your stars. Not a total liability on defense.
Unfortunately they won't fall before Davis' next contract.
Find a way to land Grayson Allen.
If you Jimmer it, they will come.
A new head coach who uses power point slides to show Dell Demps how to #doitbiggest
Lol
This team needs a bench more than they need a top tier SF.
I have been beating the table for this team to go after Hood or Henzonja. I think Hood has potential to be a very good player and take an Oladipo type leap. Perfect 3 and D player for our system and what we need. The best thing that could have happened was his price tag being lowered because of his time with the Cavs. I don’t know if the MLE would have gotten him before but it could now. I would not mind getting out of Hills contract and paying Hood good $. Henzonja is my favorite under the radar FA. This kid has the talent to be a stud SF with great athleticism that can flat out score. He’s so close to putting it all together and when he does the kid looks great. Still very young and could thrive here in our system on the wing. If we can get out of Hills contract getting both guys would be a possibility. How nice would that be to have Hood/Henzonja on the wing with Frank Jackson coming on the scene as well. With Boogie coming back this team needs to go all in on the wing. Would love Paul George or Kawhi Leonard but someone like Hood and Henzonja is much more realistic.
Rondo/Jackson
Jrue/Moore/Clark
Hood/Henzonja/Miller
Davis/Mirotic
Cousins/Diallo/Okafor
That’s an exciting roster with a ton of talent. Our 2 bigs present a problem for the super teams. Then you add in Mirotic and the trio is something that can elevate us over other teams. We have the 2 way star guard in Jrue to compliment the rest of our back court that is very solid. You throw in the rookie Jackson who is a young athletic 3 point shooting combo guard with a ton of potential along with the 2 young athletic wings in Hood/Henzonja that can 3 and D while complimenting the roster and Gentry’s system perfectly. Length and athleticism that can score on the wing is what we desperately need along with an athletic 3 and D combo guard. We get that with these 3 guys. This team without the addition of anybody is going to take a big leap in improvement from last season. Adding Boogie, Jackson, and a contributing wing to the team we saw in the playoffs changes that series completely. I’m confident Dell will get it done finding that missing piece.
I’m all for getting Barnes and was ripped for it by everyone a couple years ago. He turned into what everyone swore he wouldn’t. I think as option 3A/3B with Jrue would be one damn good core 4. I just would go other ways without giving up Mirotic. Maybe Hill, Moore, Diallo, and a 1st round pick gets it done. They get a solid bench guard in Moore who plays worth his contract. They get a 1st round pick along with Diallo which is a solid return for Barnes. They would only have 2 more years of Hill who becomes a decent expiring deal after next season. Dalls is going nowhere for a couple of seasons and will be looking to move Barnes imo. The Mavs future Dennis Smith Jr. is who they are going to build around and a young Diallo could be a solid young big to develop with him.
There was a chance and interest in Barnes in 2016. But Pels decided to sign Hill and Moore for that money.
I did not liked Barnes in 2016. Now probably he might have sense...
With my last post - I was not saying that Pels SHOULD trade somebody, but at least now HAVE tradable assets...
Assuming that Pels will be a tax team:
Pels need to take care of Boogie, Rondo and Clark.
If Boogie will give us discount on dollars/years - it would help this franchise a ton. KD gave GSW room to re-sign Iggy a year ago.
Rondo - Pels can offer him $3.3m (BAE), $3,9m (using bird rights) or using up to the full taxpayer MLE ($5,4m).
Clark - using exceptions like Rondo
So after those re-signings hopefully one of two exceptions remains.
So Dell will have options:
- to buy a second round pick for up to $2,6m. I will call 76ers and offer them 51st pick plus cash for 38th or 39th pick (Phila will stash a player)
- not counting minimum exceptions (Nelson, Allen) - Dell has three trade exceptions:
a) Frazier $2,09m (expires on June 21st) - lets assume that because of tax it will not be used.
b) QPon $3,8m (expires on September 1st)
c) Dante $2.3 m (February 2019)
So other option is to trade players.
Personally I am not expecting Solomon's trade- Dell liked him in the past, and wants to see him after training camp.
As to Ajinca - trading him in July will cost at least 2019 2nd rounder. Waiting with a trade till the deadline might work best...
Hopefully Dell will find a minimum players of Clark caliber.
If I am Dell I will try to check the market for Mirotić.
Last edited by pawel; 05-09-2018 at 02:51 AM.
Assuming we sign Cousins, we should:
1. Elfrid Payton - as we all know, he's a 24 year old 6'3" PG. hoopshype quips that Payton is "An athletic lead guard with an improving three-point shot, decent court vision and high defensive potential." That's sounds good, but equally important to our system is that he is one of the faster players in the league with the ball in his hands; whereas, he can-
push the tempo - as a pass first PG with the ability to be a lock down defender as well. And yes, his shooting will improve.
I would want Rondo on a 1 year deal (perhaps 2) , where he can hopefully act as a mentor to him as well. I DO NOT THINK we should be all in for signing rondo despite his major contribution to our team this year. just cant let him break the bank. hell the cavs got in trouble keeping aging specialist around to placate for their star- then you wake up and theyre old. By the time AD's decision time is here we need solid starters with their best years ahead of them in order to entice the competitor in him. Next year is PROBABLY not our year yet either, but the two after that should be all ours
2. Acquire defensive length at the wing positions. There's just too many talented SG and SF in the league like Kevin Durant that require lengthier defenders than we haveon the perimeter. From Ariza, to Rodney Hood, to Kyle Anderson,.. mario H... ECT whoever else (thaddeus young could be a small ball PF for us who could guard durant and labron types)
we just simply gotta acquire one. Problem is solo Hill. maybe he can improve next year. Personally, id like to act now. But people need to understand it wouldnt happen in a vacuum and the money spent could wind up losing us Mirotic.
if we resign boogie perhaps our money is best spent by spending Mirotic's allotment on that SF folks covet
Last edited by fullcourtpress; 05-09-2018 at 03:02 AM.
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