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    From tweeting with Kushner I get the feeling he has heard rumors about something like this. I tried to get him to give up some info but of course, he wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    From tweeting with Kushner I get the feeling he has heard rumors about something like this. I tried to get him to give up some info but of course, he wouldn't.
    It sounds like the Knicks are trying to call the shots. How the hell does that work? They should have ZERO leverage in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinman View Post
    It sounds like the Knicks are trying to call the shots. How the hell does that work? They should have ZERO leverage in this.
    The two teams making the trade work calls the shots. That's Phoenix and New Orleans.

    That said, Ryno to New Orleans would have me extremely pissed.

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    Our local guy Kushner is saying we want a impact Guard. Mike Ortiz is saying Ryan Anderson will be thrown on us. Who to believe? Or are they separate deals

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA View Post
    Our local guy Kushner is saying we want a impact Guard. Mike Ortiz is saying Ryan Anderson will be thrown on us. Who to believe? Or are they separate deals
    I believe Kushner 100%. Dude is solid. If he says something it's legit.

    For all we know the guy leaking this stuff is some shill for New York or Houston to try and leverage more assets. Thanks for tweeting he info so Kushner could say, "see stuff is happening" but I don't believe the details until Kushner or one of the big guys report it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    The two teams making the trade work calls the shots. That's Phoenix and New Orleans.

    That said, Ryno to New Orleans would have me extremely pissed.
    I will NOT be a happy camper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA View Post
    Our local guy Kushner is saying we want a impact Guard. Mike Ortiz is saying Ryan Anderson will be thrown on us. Who to believe? Or are they separate deals
    Being serious here, but what does Mike Ortiz have to his name? First time I heard of this guy. At least Kushner has connections within the team and is legit. Siding with Kushner until further notice.

    Besides, we don't need another high paid big man. We already have two elite ones. We need a guard or a wing. preferably someone who can shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinglio21093 View Post
    Being serious here, but what does Mike Ortiz have to his name? First time I heard of this guy. At least Kushner has connections within the team and is legit. Siding with Kushner until further notice.

    Besides, we don't need another high paid big man. We already have two elite ones. We need a guard or a wing. preferably someone who can shoot.
    We certainly didn't become part of this deal to get Anderson. This ORTIZ guy must realize that all we have to do is "Just say NO" & we are gone !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    I believe Kushner 100%. Dude is solid. If he says something it's legit.

    For all we know the guy leaking this stuff is some shill for New York or Houston to try and leverage more assets. Thanks for tweeting he info so Kushner could say, "see stuff is happening" but I don't believe the details until Kushner or one of the big guys report it.
    Yup I'm leaning towards Kushner. Trying to read in between the lines of the other guy's tweet to connect the dots with what Kushner threw out there

    Both Pelicans and Suns are now in the trade heavy. Melo going to Houston is a given only if Pelicans and Suns make it work. We want an impact Guard. Knicks don't want Anderson's contract. Anderson has to go to Phoenix. We want an impact Guard. Phoenix has them. Now it's a matter of what does Phoenix get for giving away one of their PG's and taking on Anderson's contract at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA View Post
    Our local guy Kushner is saying we want a impact Guard. Mike Ortiz is saying Ryan Anderson will be thrown on us. Who to believe? Or are they separate deals
    Well, the Reggie Jackson rumor involved entirely separate pieces, so you could have both things going on.

    And really, if you made both moves at the grand cost of Moore, Ajinca, and Asik, how could that possibly be a bad thing?

    Suddenly the Twin Towers become a Big Three, and the Big Three become a Fab Five:

    Demarcus Cousins
    Anthony Davis
    Ryan Anderson
    Jrue Holiday
    Reggie Jackson

    and while those are not my favorite names, they are a talented group of names. Perhaps Dell rather unoriginally recreating his same awkward framework before the Ryno/Reke/Gordon thing fell apart, but now adding a sparkling new Boogie on top. Lot of firepower there. Be nights when that group could score 100pts just between the 5 of them.

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    Tiger Droppings folks talking WWL promoting Ryno to N.O. This is not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA View Post
    Yup I'm leaning towards Kushner. Trying to read in between the lines of the other guy's tweet to connect the dots with what Kushner threw out there

    Both Pelicans and Suns are now in the trade heavy. Melo going to Houston is a given only if Pelicans and Suns make it work. We want an impact Guard. Knicks don't want Anderson's contract. Anderson has to go to Phoenix. We want an impact Guard. Phoenix has them. Now it's a matter of what does Phoenix get for giving away one of their PG's and taking on Anderson's contract at the same time
    There has to be some honesty too, at least unless Dell is an idiot, Bledsoe isn't just a "talented guard". He's a Kentucky dude who's a close friend of Boogie, who has talked for years about how they get together in the summer and try to figure out ways they could end up playing together. Getting Bledsoe would be about trying to ensure Boogie's return next year as much as his guard skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricklayer View Post
    Well, the Reggie Jackson rumor involved entirely separate pieces, so you could have both things going on.

    And really, if you made both moves at the grand cost of Moore, Ajinca, and Asik, how could that possibly be a bad thing?

    Suddenly the Twin Towers become a Big Three, and the Big Three become a Fab Five:

    Demarcus Cousins
    Anthony Davis
    Ryan Anderson
    Jrue Holiday
    Reggie Jackson

    and while those are not my favorite names, they are a talented group of names. Perhaps Dell rather unoriginally recreating his same awkward framework before the Ryno/Reke/Gordon thing fell apart, but now adding a sparkling new Boogie on top. Lot of firepower there. Be nights when that group could score 100pts just between the 5 of them.
    I wouldn't mind that lineup at all in the short term. Only concern would be does it affect Boogie re-signing and what would our cap be in general going forward the next few seasons

    Sn I started checking out everyone's beloved McNamara's tweets and he's saying we're involved mainly just to unload Asik, but who else in the 3/4 team trade benefits from that alone even with a first included? We go from hearing about no moves to now a lot of wonder and back & forth uncertainty

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    Ryno would be best served staying in Houston as their 3pt shooter, too bad they signed him to such a trash contract where they can't afford to keep him AND make the necessary changes to their roster.

    I would like to see Ryno back here, if just to hear him talk about his year studying abroad.
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    Listen guys, we either need to forget about MM or accept him as a made man. There is no other way.

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    Reggie
    Jrue
    Ryno
    Ad
    Cousins

    If thats our lineup then either:

    A. Davis would have to defend the other teams sf and ryno defend the pf.

    B. Ryno is firepower off the bench to pair with crawford and hill remains our starting sf.

    Either way, our team would be better.

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    Diff "insiders " reporting something different on twitter. Our offseason is looking hectic all of a sudden. Can't remember one being as crucial and crazy as this one just within the last 24 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA View Post
    Diff "insiders " reporting something different on twitter. Our offseason is looking hectic all of a sudden. Can't remember one being as crucial and crazy as this one just within the last 24 hours
    think we figured out why the random Reggie Jackson trade rumor came out yesterday
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybgs7yma

    2 first go to Phx from the Pels and Houston.
    2 2nd's go to the Knicks from the Pels and Houston.
    Last edited by AUSSIE_PELICAN; 07-13-2017 at 12:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybgs7yma

    2 first go to Phx from the Pels and Houston.
    2 2nd's go to the Knicks from the Pels and Houston.
    Bledsoe
    Jrue
    Ariza
    Ad
    Cousins

    That's a 60 win team

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybgs7yma

    2 first go to Phx from the Pels and Houston.
    2 2nd's go to the Knicks from the Pels and Houston.
    Lol that would be amazing for us

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    I don't see how Bledsoe fits with the Knicks. They drafted a young Frank Ntilikina to be the future PG. They were initially looking for a veteran PG to hold the spot down like a Ramon Sessions or Rondo for cheap. Theyre supposedly trying to tank for SF Michael Porter Jr. Getting Bledsoe makes them do the opposite of tanking. Getting Bledsoe requires them to give up what it takes to get Porter in the draft. Bledsoe can play the 2, but they already have Hardaway and Lee. It's pointless for the Knicks to get him. Just another leak for the Suns to price gauge

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    When was the last time 12 players were involved in a trade?

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    This also works in the trade machine if we have to accept Ryan Anderson...

    NO gets Bledsoe and Anderson

    PHX gets Asik, Ajinca, Cook, and NO 2018 top 3 protected 1st round pick

    NYK gets Moore, Ariza, Pondexter, and Toupane

    HOU gets Anthony

    Pels lineup after trade...

    PG: Bledsoe/Lawson (signed with BAE)/Jackson
    SG: Holiday/Crawford/Young
    SF: Hill/Diallo (I think he is athletic enough to play the 3)/Miller
    PF: Davis/Anderson
    C: Cousins/Vet min center

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    Pelicans Podcaster @SilverAndMac ยท 2h Pels interest in entering Melo trade is much more about offloading Asik than it is about adding a guy
    Not what I wanted to hear

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