Ha, that's awesome. I'll never forget Harvey giving us a heads up on the Peja signing and Tyson trade. That was a great offseason. Post more Harvey.Originally Posted by Harvey
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Ha, that's awesome. I'll never forget Harvey giving us a heads up on the Peja signing and Tyson trade. That was a great offseason. Post more Harvey.
In Phx eyes, Knights contract is nastier than Asik. If we took Knight, a 1st rounder would possibly be taken off the deal. Asik,Ajinca,Q-pon, Crawford, Moore & all unguaranteed's xould all be put on the table plus a 1st round unprotected. Maybe. Thus- Negotiations
Last edited by Tinman; 07-08-2017 at 12:48 PM.
I'm not sure I agree. But, "thus- negotiations".
I would take knight over the corpse of Asik. At least he can score. He's better than anything currently on our bench.
But the Asik mistake will go away sooner than Knight's would
If you had to bet on one of these two players becoming a valuable contributor to a team with playoff hopes, it's easily Brandon Knight. He's being paid backup guard money. If he's healthy I'd easily take him.
My money is on the player we get from the $21 million extra dollars we have to spend.
Asik for Knight is classic "Cost vs. Upside" with a hint of "grass is greener."
I think Knight having a borderline all star season with Milwaukee is worth taking a flyer on IF the cost is Asik. I could also see Phx being done with Knight, his best days obviously aren't in the Arizona, and the opportunity to get out of that deal sooner while they rebuild being valuable.
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$21m? Where's that coming from?
And basically you're betting on unknown player X, who wants to sign in NOLA, being signed in 2 years by Dell Demps who has a track record that features Gordon, Asik, Hill and Moore.
Nah...
No thanks.
MM has been on Twitter guaranting a trade will happen by today now someone called him out on it and he's now saying by training camp . If nothing happens today I hope this clears up the MM has insider info phenomenon but If something does happen today then he deserves credit . We'll see
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I wouldn't be upset or happy if he was found to be right (or wrong). I work in IBanking, deals fall apart at the closing table all the time. In the NBA where you have more variables I imagine deals die more often.
If you Jimmer it, they will come.
That's the difference between the $24 million Asik has left vs the $45 million Knight has left.
I'd guess a trade would happen after summer league. Showcase our lesser contracts and make sure no injuries happen along with axel being able to be traded I think in a couple days.
I think as for knight, we look to be surrounding AD and DC with combo guards that can shoot and play defense. I think knight can do that. My thing is at least we can play him and if we can miraculously trade for a maxed out Wall, we can trade Jrue (25 mil) and knight (15 mil) and whatever else should be enough dollar wise. Maybe a change of scenery helps BK just look at EG, he turned into 6th man of the year.
Today is the day that our unguaranteed contracts could be traded. I believe that is what he was counting on. If we don't hear anything by today, I think that tells us the Pelicans haven't had something lined up this whole time. Which means we sat out of free agency in possibly the most important offseason of the franchise, all because of hopes and dreams. How awesome does that sound?
He's getting the 21 million from --We owe Asik 24 guaranteed . Knights contract is 45 million. Not to mention, Asik can be bought out for 3 million in final year. Knight would still be 15 million a year CAP hit. Btw, 15 million is certainly not back-up $$$ . Erwin Moores salary is back-up money. Shawn Livingston is back-up money. NOT 15 million
Let's trade these unguaranteed contracts to Boston for Bradley. Oh wait..
Well I spoke to my sources with God and I predict it will rain by next week to this day! I stop listening to this troll who just loves the attention.
Agreed. This kind of gives me a Howard (Asik)- Plumlee (Knight) vibe where we get rid of a player we clearly don't want on the team in exchange for a player, with a bad contract, but high upside. Knight would never be my first option, but it may be our only. If this happens, I'll be more happy for NM than for us, but I would get the gamble if Asik is moved in the process and nothing better comes along.
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Knight had a bad season on a young team in a new system. He is 25, and while he is making $13m, $14m, and $15m over the next 3 years, you get out from that contract while he is still in his 20s.
Call me crazy, but I take that deal. Way to much upside to pass up on. But if gettin Bledsoe and Knight prevents us from landing Wall, then it's a hard pass for me.
Why would we give up Asiks 25 mill to pay a back-up 15 mill for 3 years. Asik is bought for 3 million in 3 yrs. Knight will still be on the books for 15. Plus, Knights contract would affect the Boogie contract. We still have Oppo to stretch Asik if need be next year to make room for Boogie. But, if we take Knight, there ain't no stretching & that 15 mill could/would impede on Boogie. AD/Jrue/Bledsoe/Hill is 77 million. So, you wanna add Knights 15? How you gonna pay Boogie?
Last edited by Tinman; 07-08-2017 at 02:37 PM.
You joke, but I worry that may have been our plan.
In a vacuum I would trade Asik for Knight. The problem is not for both Bledsoe and Knight. Knight's contract is terrible for us with needing to resign Cousins next year and if we had Bledsoe we'd need to resign him too soon.
Basically, I'd give up the farm for Bledsoe but I'd be hard pressed to want both.
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Last edited by rt0307; 07-08-2017 at 02:55 PM.
68 pages, and all we have to show for it is re-signing Jrue and adding Miller.
C'mon Dell, we're getting inpatient.
Can I change my user to TradeForBledsoe just for this off-season?
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