Sounds like he is not keen on the remaining FAs. If not, he should just wait it out for the bargain contracts later rather than overpay.Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy
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Sounds like he is not keen on the remaining FAs. If not, he should just wait it out for the bargain contracts later rather than overpay.
Can we impose a moratorium on MM posts? He posts speculation without any facts or evidence. It gets the entire board in a frenzy and nothing ever happens.
He is a troll.
Let's please not give him a platform.
I'd take Reggie Jackson or ty Lawson with Gerald green
Trade Cousins to Cleveland
They need some help to win against the Warriors
We are going to loose him at season end and get nothing.
Why wait til February 2018 when the season is already over.
7th seed ?????
Last edited by Buckwheat; 07-07-2017 at 05:14 PM.
Why wait until February you ask? Because Boogie would actually tell Dell and Gentry that he won't be re-signing here before the the trade deadline. So, if that happens, Dell would then trade him. But until then, the reason why Boogie won't be traded because, dare I say, he hasn't given any indication that he is going to walk?
Why wait until February you ask? Because you also haven't given AD and Boogie more than 25+ games together yet to see how it goes. For all you know, we could be a top 5 team in the West after Dell does what he needs to do and make a big trade for that 4th piece.
i would have put a $1000 on us making the playoffs by letting jrue walk and signing darren collison and parts.....now i have to say that i would have been a lil nervous by seeing everyone flock to the west but i still think we would have made the playoffs...
can you stop today and pick up where you left off tomorrow?....
Davis Cousins need more than those 2 to win games.
Cousins is seeing first hand what handcuffs mean on a ball club.
It's obvious they don't want to spend any money.
They are happy at hoping for 40 wins.
He's floating out Reggie Jackson the same way he floated out Lin. And nothing happened with that. He had that whole "LSB" crap days ago and what happened with that?? I'm just saying while entertaining don't invest alot into what MM says.
I wonder how Dell likes Cabo? I hope he brings back some pictures. And maybe like a little bobblehead doll.
Hawks guard Jamal Crawford has finalized his contract buyout, league source tells The Vertical.
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He posts baseless speculation as fact with the caveat that it may or may not happen.
I could say "I'm hearing the Pelicans really like Pocahontas at the two guard. Something could happen as soon as Saturday" and everyone gets excited looking at Pocahontas highlight reels on YouTube. When nothing happens I just say it fell threw.
I can't stand that guy. He once came on here asking for support trying to get writers from Nola.com fired.
He is a troll. Don't link him
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Last edited by jprdbulldog20; 07-07-2017 at 05:51 PM.
On the other hand waiting to Feb which is the last chance to trade him usually sees teams with worse offers as they have the leverage. I'd highly consider trading Boogie right now as he's likely to leave as this roster ain't good and we're completely out of options and flexibility to do much.
Who is MM?
Is he a staff member or member of the Press?
Slim you are spot on with that statement.
You can highly consider that. I can't force you to feel how I feel obviously haha. But, deep down you know we won't trade him.
Again, it hasn't even been 20 games together. They never had a offseason to work off each other. Wouldn't you say, at the very least, let them play together and see how it goes before considering trading boogie.
You know who he is, Champ. Stop asking pointless questions.
Good lord, now there's two posters pretending that Boogie is gonna leave? Make the trolling stop. It's making this board unbearable.
And I am very confused about some of y'all wanting to trade Boogie...Please answer me this:
We know, and it's obvious, Dell traded for Boogie already KNOWING he only had one year left on his contract. So, if Dell already knew that Boogie only had one year left on his contract, then why would he trade DC before the start of the season...Especially after less than 20 games and no offseason with AD?
I just don't understand the logic. You traded for Boogie knowing he only had one year left on his contract. So, why would you then trade him after less than 20 games and no offseason? Don't say, "because he will walk, he wants to play for a contender..." Because we should have already known this before we made the trade. So, since we did make the trade, doesn't tell you that we will ride with Boogie and not trade him?
Last edited by WhyHornetsWhy; 07-07-2017 at 06:20 PM.
We can't do a DAMN thing due to our lack of cap space. Problem is next yr is the same. Jrue's and AD's contracts only get bigger. Solomon and Asik are here thru 19/20. Next summer with Jrue's contract up to 26M we're looking at
AD-25M
Jrue-26M
Asik-11M
Solomon-13M
Moore-9M
Ajinca-5.5M
Those are rounded off but it's approx 90M without Boogie. Boogie would get at least 25M so that's 115M, luxury tax territory without even doing anything which makes us better while killing even more flexibility going forward. This team isn't bad enough to get high picks either.
It's a complete mess. I love Boogie but we killed what we can add around him and AD before even trading for him. Then we had to sign Jrue to avoid going straight lotto but that just compounded the mess.
So we either take our most valuable piece in Boogie and try to get a star wing & another piece or two which really fits around AD & Jrue or we risk him walking for nothing and we're STILL then tied up with 90M in salary next season where the cap next year will be 99M as it went down. So even if Boogie walks we still have almost no ability to really add something in free agency next summer. And then we risk having AD, an overpaid Jrue and mostly crap. That could see AD leaving.
If people actually look bigger picture & the situation over the next 2-3 yrs I don't know how trading Boogie isn't a very real option right now.
It makes zero sense.
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Its all been explained. It was a gamble but the team has little upside and little flexibility to do anything. Just have to cut the emotion out of it and think logically.
Now if you want to refute all the numbers I posted above and show us all how this team gets that much better go right ahead.
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I will copy and paste my post about acquiring John wall: Go ahead and you tell me how this isn't a possibility ASSUMING Boogie re-signs if we make the play-offs(I think is our difference. I believe he will re-sign, you don't).
1. I said: All we NEED to do this off-season is trade for Bledsoe.
2. Once that happens, then all we need to do is next is to make the play-offs. After making the play-offs, then that will 100% ensure that Boogie will sign an extension with us next summer. Why? Not only are we showing him that we are trying to win, but since he's also loyal, and the Kentucky blood/family/brotherhood runs stronger than one would think, then he will want to stay here and play with AD and Bledsoe (college teammate and best friend...The groomsmen at Bledsoe's wedding along with Wall).
3. Now, it wasn't a coincidence that John Wall didn't sign his extension when the Wizards had offered him a new contract earlier this summer...It wasn't a coincidence that Wall said, "I want to wait and see" around the SAME TIME that it was reported that Boogie is recruiting free agents to come play for the Pelicans.
4A. Wall has two years left on his contract. If he doesn't sign his extension, then he becomes a CP3/Paul George next summer with one year left on his contract. THIS will be the time to trade Jrue and assets for John Wall. Less teams will want to trade for Wall just because they'll be trading for an one-year rental. We will also be trading for an one-year rental in Wall. However, there's no way Pelicans wouldn't pull the trigger on Wall even for an one-year rental because WE KNOW with confidence that we will have the highest chance to sign him to an extension when his contract expires and becomes an UFA. Because guess what? He's not going to leave us with AD/Boogie/Bledsoe on the team. Remember that Kentucky blood and best friends and old college teammates thing I was talking about earlier? Plus, knowing that Boogie, AD, and Bledsoe is playing for NOLA should deter even more teams from trading for Wall knowing that he'll just sign with Pelicans after that 1 year with the team who traded for him. Basically, we won't have too much competition in the John Wall sweepstakes. Hopefully, Jrue balls out at an all-star level along with Chieck playing good basketballl so they can valuable trade assets.
4B. Now, if ANOTHER team beat us to the punch and trade for Wall as an one-year rental, then what do we do? Good. You go after Coach Cal that off-season. So, now you got Coach Cal, Boogie, Bledsoe, and AD? Two of Wall's old college teammates, three best friends, and his old college coach? Wall will definitely leave the team that traded for him and come play for the Pelicans. This might even be better because now you can trade Jrue for an allstar/superstar SF because of knowing that Wall is coming here.
5. After that, you go after veterans who are chasing championships and will play for the minimum.
We will then have a roster of: Wall, Bledsoe, AD, Boogie, superstar/all-star SF and maybe Coach Cal (If another team traded for Wall as an one-year rental), and veterans.
6. Championships
Last edited by WhyHornetsWhy; 07-07-2017 at 06:43 PM.
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