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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    I think you should compare their first game stats to buddy's first game stats, if you are going to compare players compare them fairly.
    I am actually giving the other players an advantage by doing this.

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    Lets also remember some context from history:

    Stephen Curry, 3 year college player:

    Summer League stats:

    17ppg, 32%FG, 4rebounds, 4assists.

    He was outplayed by guys like Johnny Flynn and his own teammate Anthony Randolph and Anthony Morrow overshadowed and left him looking like a third wheel. Summer League is not going to write a persons career, especially one game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco View Post
    I am actually giving the other players an advantage by doing this.
    How? All to most of those players you mention first game was better than buddy's first game. Heck who's to say buddy doesn't lay an egg in this game also.
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    Simmons is going to be a triple double machine. He's going to be a similiar player to Giannis IMO just a little smoother running the point. I think Hield will be fine and just needs to find his shot along with some players who can actually get him the ball.

  5. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    how?
    What do you mean how? I am comparing Hield's first game to guys who have had 1-2 games under their belt already. Giving them the advantage of being settled in and having a rapport with teammates.

    Which lets keep in mind, my only point was to show Hield is not some unique outlier in having a bad performance. Pretty much all of the guys we debated ad nauseam sans Dunn have struggled so far.
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    Dunn looking bad right now. Still early in the game and guys like him get better as they go.

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    Thon Maker has been an absolute beast. I'm with the Bucks now on who cares about his age. He's looking to be the steal of the draft IMO. He looks like he's playing with kids and that's how it should be. The Bucks can be something serious in a couple of years. That team is a good PG away from being serious contenders in about 2 years. Next Warriors team building from within. Middleton/Parker/Giannis/Maker can be a great group. Just need a PG.

    Kelly Oubre has also had a good SL. Wanted us to snag him in a trade but I think the Wizards made the right move holding on to him.
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  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25 View Post
    Thon Maker has been an absolute beast. I'm with the Bucks now on who cares about his age. He's looking to be the steal of the draft IMO. He looks like he's playing with kids and that's how it should be. Kelly Oubre has also had a good SL. Wanted us to snag him in a trade but I think the Wizards made the right move holding on to him.
    Be careful putting too much stock in Summer league. Anthony Randolph and Anthony Morrow were the top scorers/performers in a 2009 summer league team that featured Stephen Curry as a teammate. A summer league where they outperformed such future scrubs like James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan.

    I think it at least bodes well that Thon isn't struggling but I am just hesitant to put too much stock in summer league.

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    Those guys had already been in the NBA a year and that makes a big difference. Not saying Thon is going to be great but right now he's looking like it.

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25 View Post
    Those guys had already been in the NBA a year and that makes a big difference. Not saying Thon is going to be great but right now he's looking like it.
    ....Based on 2 summer league games. Lets reign in the projections a bit. He looks like he belongs, that is about as far as I would go right now IMO.

  11. #161
    Yes that some in the media even thought the 76ers should of taken Ingram over Simmons is laughable. Ingram has a chance to be great, but I think Simmons will be!! I thought that was so stupid to even consider lol

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    Good God how was that not a walk by Payne lol

  13. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by DaPelFromHell View Post
    Yes that some in the media even thought the 76ers should of taken Ingram over Simmons is laughable. Ingram has a chance to be great, but I think Simmons will be!! I thought that was so stupid to even consider lol
    The only reason it was ever a thing was because Simmons chose LSU. Had he gone to a Kentucky/Kansas type program that was full of great coaches, great supporting cast and good systems, Simmons would of been a far and away top 1 pick.

    LSU fans don't want to hear it but the program is why the questions about Simmons exist.

  14. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25 View Post
    Thon Maker has been an absolute beast. I'm with the Bucks now on who cares about his age. He's looking to be the steal of the draft IMO. He looks like he's playing with kids and that's how it should be. The Bucks can be something serious in a couple of years. That team is a good PG away from being serious contenders in about 2 years. Next Warriors team building from within. Middleton/Parker/Giannis/Maker can be a great group. Just need a PG.

    Kelly Oubre has also had a good SL. Wanted us to snag him in a trade but I think the Wizards made the right move holding on to him.
    Honestly I think Giannis is fine running point as their main facilitator, all they need is a guy who can be a three-point threat and play solid defense to occupy the 1 spot. Don't sleep on Monroe as a sixth man in an Enes Kanter role either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25 View Post
    Thon Maker has been an absolute beast. I'm with the Bucks now on who cares about his age. He's looking to be the steal of the draft IMO. He looks like he's playing with kids and that's how it should be. The Bucks can be something serious in a couple of years. That team is a good PG away from being serious contenders in about 2 years. Next Warriors team building from within. Middleton/Parker/Giannis/Maker can be a great group. Just need a PG.

    Kelly Oubre has also had a good SL. Wanted us to snag him in a trade but I think the Wizards made the right move holding on to him.
    Didn't take him long to throw the bust discussions out of the window

  16. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Lelicans View Post
    Didn't take him long to throw the bust discussions out of the window
    It. is. still. summer. league.

    I know it's hard to separate. But I'd be pretty certain the scatter plot to NBA success would be all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    It. is. still. summer. league.

    I know it's hard to separate. But I'd be pretty certain the scatter plot to NBA success would be all over the place.
    I do think Thon has done enough to show he at least is not going to be grossly outclassed and completely lost like many scouts worried.

    He has shown enough that I think he at least belongs in the league as a prospect. Where it will go from there is anyones guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco View Post
    I do think Thon has done enough to show he at least is not going to be grossly outclassed and completely lost like many scouts worried.

    He has shown enough that I think he at least belongs in the league as a prospect. Where it will go from there is anyones guess.
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    If Diallo was doing what Maker is everyone here would be freaking out as him being the next Kareem. Diallo has looked very good while Maker has looked great. With his skill set he has potential to be an elite center and how he looks now I don't see anyway he is a bust. He is definitely an NBA player.

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    Diallo is actually 19. Not a 23/24 yr old who spent the entire last year working out to get ready for the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    Diallo is actually 19. Not a 23/24 yr old who spent the entire last year working out to get ready for the NBA.
    You're assuming his age with none of that actually being facts and it's completely besides the point. If Diallo was 2-3 years older people would still be going zonkers if he was doing was Maker is doing right now. Guy is playing like an absolute beast plain and simple SL or not. Diallo has played very well and better than I thought. I'm sure a few days ago you weren't sitting here saying Maker should be playing like the best big in SL because they have rumors he is older and has been working out for basketball for a year. Which every player has been doing by the way. If we had drafted Maker everyone here would be freaking out as well saying we don't care how old he is.

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    Any highlights of Diallo's game available?

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    only Pelicans team video available



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    LMAO pawel!

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    Guess that makes Hield our Carl Carlson.

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