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    It probably won't help him. IMO he stays where he is. About 8-12.
    But Brown might fall around our selections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr View Post
    Will this hurt Valentine in the draft?
    Most definitely, he wasn't projected as a lotto pick already. He was highly regarded do to his skills so by the upset and him not being to showcase himself I can see him dropping even more if he measure bad at the combine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pawel View Post
    It probably won't help him. IMO he stays where he is. About 8-12.
    But Brown might fall around our selections...
    He wasn't project as a lotto guy in most drafts he's a 15-20 pick

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    By some mocks he was projected around 10-15

    Denzel is gone. Rabb is gone. Brown as well. Simmons.
    Dont see many going to top 10.
    Payton is gone and may be available around 35-40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawel View Post
    By some mocks he was projected around 10-15

    Denzel is gone. Rabb is gone. Brown as well. Simmons.
    Dont see many going to top 10.
    Payton is gone and may be available around 35-40.
    I can see Ingram shooting up to 1 now
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    If Ingram wont hurt himself by playing poor I expect him as a no1.
    Personally I will take Simmons.

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    Ingram

    simmions

    Brown

    Bender

    Dunn

    Murray

    Poeltl

    Ellenson

    Skal

    Luwawu

    Helid

    Rabb

    Is how I see the top 12 playing out

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawel View Post
    If Ingram wont hurt himself by playing poor I expect him as a no1.
    Personally I will take Simmons.
    Me too people are too caught up on Ben's team. He was the most dominant players the college season and the only thing Ingram is better at is shooting.

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    Man Oklahoma looked in trouble until Hield started creating.

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    Hield is unconscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 504ByrdGang View Post
    Me too people are too caught up on Ben's team. He was the most dominant players the college season and the only thing Ingram is better at is shooting.
    I agree. I love Ingram but Simmons is an amazing talent. He is elite in every category except shooting which is the most fixable. Ingram is still a stud and in most drafts would be a clear #1. I'll take what Coach K says over anyone else and he says Ingram could be a PG at 6'10. Ingram is smoothe and very consistent. Great defender, good rebounder, very good passer, and lights out shooter. Both of them would be such a big shot in the arm for this franchise.

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    You want a wing, but the good ones are gone when we pick, grab Dunn in the first, and Prince if he is still there in the 2nd. Problems solved.
    If you Jimmer it, they will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    You want a wing, but the good ones are gone when we pick, grab Dunn in the first, and Prince if he is still there in the 2nd. Problems solved.
    So grab Dunn and when he gets hurt you and many others sit there whining by blaming Dell that he should have seen this coming? This board is going to blow up with all the same people that think he should have predicted all of these injuries we have now. Well Dunn has his medical issues right in front of you with both shoulders under going surgery. This franchise definitely does not need an injury prone player.

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    Why would I complain about Demps? He will be gone before the draft.

    Dunn hasn't been injured in two years, so why is drafting him a concern? We have guys who are always injured, that we love and plan on building around, so by drafting Dunn (even if he were injury prone)?

    Besides, nobody likes Reke or Gordon, so we need to replace those two injury prone guys with a new, younger injury prone guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25 View Post
    I agree. I love Ingram but Simmons is an amazing talent. He is elite in every category except shooting which is the most fixable. Ingram is still a stud and in most drafts would be a clear #1. I'll take what Coach K says over anyone else and he says Ingram could be a PG at 6'10. Ingram is smoothe and very consistent. Great defender, good rebounder, very good passer, and lights out shooter. Both of them would be such a big shot in the arm for this franchise.
    Which draft would Ingram be a #1 in? Over KAT? Over Wiggins? AD? Wall? Griffin? Rose? Oden?

    I'll give you over Irving, and the 2013 NBA draft.
    He's an above average prospect for a number 2 pick, but pretty bad for a #1 pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Why would I complain about Demps? He will be gone before the draft.

    Dunn hasn't been injured in two years, so why is drafting him a concern? We have guys who are always injured, that we love and plan on building around, so by drafting Dunn (even if he were injury prone)?

    Besides, nobody likes Reke or Gordon, so we need to replace those two injury prone guys with a new, younger injury prone guy.


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    Lol because he hasn't been injured in 2 years is so ridiculous. So I guess you deserve a clean bill of health because it's been a little over a year since your last injury. That makes total sense now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelifan View Post
    Which draft would Ingram be a #1 in? Over KAT? Over Wiggins? AD? Wall? Griffin? Rose? Oden?

    I'll give you over Irving, and the 2013 NBA draft.
    He's an above average prospect for a number 2 pick, but pretty bad for a #1 pick
    Very likely he was the #1 pick over Griffin. I wouldn't say Wiggins is a clear pick over him either. Ingram does quite a bit better then Ingram did. Wiggins was in a weak class which made him the clear #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25 View Post
    Lol because he hasn't been injured in 2 years is so ridiculous. So I guess you deserve a clean bill of health because it's been a little over a year since your last injury. That makes total sense now.
    So when do we ship out Jrue and Reke...and to a lessor extent AD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    So when do we ship out Jrue and Reke...and to a lessor extent AD?
    Completely different when we have Jrue that we invested a lot in. His injury is always a concern. AD is a superstar so yea real good example. Drafting Dunn who has two serious shoulder injuries is the exact thing you and quite a few others blame Dell for doing. This isn't an injury he has to predict it's clear as day right in front of his face.

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    Like I asked, when do we trade Jrue? You think knee problems just go away?

    How many games has Dunn missed again this season or last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Like I asked, when do we trade Jrue? You think knee problems just go away?

    How many games has Dunn missed again this season or last?
    When did Jrue have a knee problem? He had a stress fracture which is much different then two shoulder surgeries. You think shoulder injuries just go away because it's been a year? Jrue is a proven all star that we invested a lot in. The injury Jrue had takes time to recover from which he has and is less likely to re injur again then a shoulder injury. Jrue isn't considered injury prone because of one injury that took time but I would say having surgery on both shoulders is. Much different then a player who already has one big risk factor of never panning out and another of having big injury concerns. Makes no sense what you are trying to say.
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    If we don't land one or two I'd like to trade down. I think we could build a scrappy bench and some good young depth. Walkup had a huge game against West Virginia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdcreator View Post
    If we don't land one or two I'd like to trade down. I think we could build a scrappy bench and some good young depth. Walkup had a huge game against West Virginia.
    I don't like trading down in the NBA at all. Much different then the NFL where the value can still be great. Way to hit or miss and the drop off of talent is huge.

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    Throw a bunch of darts eventually one or two hit, Plus we need good depth.

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    We will have depth next year when guys come back. We need impact starters. We can always fill out a bench and should have nice one next year. This team needs starters.

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