Pels @ Jazz (11-28-15)

[4Real]

poor guy

[jgman II]

Davis was +1 in 44 minutes, and we lost by 14

[rt0307]

Davis was +1 in 44 minutes, and we lost by 14

let's get his full and true supporting cast back before casting dispersions

[UNO Gracias]

let's get his full and true supporting cast back before casting dispersions

So, next year?

[GuardianAngel25]

Maybe you are right, maybe I am overselling AD and underselling Hayward. The Jazz have a complete roster, but don't have as many "stars" as we do. Would you switch our roster last year for the Jazz? Of course not. But Snyder had those guys fighting for a playoff spot until the last two weeks when we pulled away.

This year without an AD, or a Jrue Snyder has that team playing .500 ball, and they too have dealt with injuries (Gobert, Hood, others on limited min.) but they have beat solid competition. No they aren't missing Jesus Shuttlesworth like we are apparently (Reke), but that hasn't stopped them. Snyder is the better coach of the two.

Gentry has taken a team to the NBA WC Finals. Had multiple winnings seasons. How is Snyder who is in his 2nd year with a losing record in his 1st and only .500 while the season is still very early better then Gentrt? You can say how he would have his roster or whoever but nothing backs that's up. The Jazz injuries have been nothing compared to ours this season or last season. His injuries last year should have been no excuse right? His injuries this year don't compare. We have a better team healthy then them of course. Not a better team with the injuries we have making our depth terrible with starters as the bench players while bench players are the street clothed and out of work guys. Should we win some of these games and not look bad yea but just like really good teams get beat buy ones that should have had a chance it happens and it is going to happen extra with the issues we are dealing with. No coach is good without the players and injuries cause us to not have those players to keep players. I like Snyder a lot but nothing backs up he is a better coach or ever will be even close to as successful as Gentry has been.

[4Real]

Gentry has taken a team to the NBA WC Finals. Had multiple winnings seasons. How is Snyder who is in his 2nd year with a losing record in his 1st and only .500 while the season is still very early better then Gentrt? You can say how he would have his roster or whoever but nothing backs that's up. The Jazz injuries have been nothing compared to ours this season or last season. His injuries last year should have been no excuse right? His injuries this year don't compare. We have a better team healthy then them of course. Not a better team with the injuries we have making our depth terrible with starters as the bench players while bench players are the street clothed and out of work guys. Should we win some of these games and not look bad yea but just like really good teams get beat buy ones that should have had a chance it happens and it is going to happen extra with the issues we are dealing with. No coach is good without the players and injuries cause us to not have those players to keep players. I like Snyder a lot but nothing backs up he is a better coach or ever will be even close to as successful as Gentry has been.

Well 339-382 is nothing to jump and down about but you be the judge.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...entral99c.html

[luckyman]

The injuries, new coaches, and this schedule is the perfect recipe for 4-13.

Even with a bad guard situation, what's hidden is almost no production from the 3 spot, and Gee is fouling too much on defense. Cunningham could never guard that position. So Pondexter out is an even bigger problem.

[UNO Gracias]

Gentry has taken a team to the NBA WC Finals. Had multiple winnings seasons. How is Snyder who is in his 2nd year with a losing record in his 1st and only .500 while the season is still very early better then Gentrt? You can say how he would have his roster or whoever but nothing backs that's up. The Jazz injuries have been nothing compared to ours this season or last season. His injuries last year should have been no excuse right? His injuries this year don't compare. We have a better team healthy then them of course. Not a better team with the injuries we have making our depth terrible with starters as the bench players while bench players are the street clothed and out of work guys. Should we win some of these games and not look bad yea but just like really good teams get beat buy ones that should have had a chance it happens and it is going to happen extra with the issues we are dealing with. No coach is good without the players and injuries cause us to not have those players to keep players. I like Snyder a lot but nothing backs up he is a better coach or ever will be even close to as successful as Gentry has been.

Gentrys career record is worse than Snyder's. But I am a man who lives in the moment (see how I brush off Ish's past), and in the current moment Snyder has more wins while not fielding an AD. We have had plenty of AD and supporting players, but have only mustered 4 wins. Snyder has taken a team without a star and gotten them to play .500 ball, and it's not like they are beating crap teams. Last year his record showed me he was a rising star in the coaching ranks, this year is making it seem more like a self fulfilling prophecy. Gentry and his staff are showing they can't coach up players, or at least form a decent game plan.

But keep rocking that WCF's appearance. Brian Hill and Byron Scott went so far after making an NBA finals appearance, that this too should pass.

[4Real]

So, next year?

And if that does not work the next year after that and so on.

[luckyman]

We have had plenty of AD and supporting players, but have only mustered 4 wins.

Which games were Utah missing 4.5 starters and 1.5 bench players? Who is on a minute restriction for them? The Pelicans SOS is ranked 1st by a mile over Utah's 8th.

Are you really comparing these two teams right now? Really?

[UNO Gracias]

Which games were Utah missing 4.5 starters and 1.5 bench players? Who is on a minute restriction for them? The Pelicans SOS is ranked 1st by a mile over Utah's 8th.

Are you really comparing these two teams right now? Really?

We have 4 wins, and we just gave them their 8th. There is really no comparison. We are a poorly constructed, poorly coached team.

You are right though, we do have the toughest SOS, while they have the 8th (a difference of .033...some mile that is). They also don't have an AD.

[RUFshreve]

The good old injury excuse.

[luckyman]

We have 4 wins, and we just gave them their 8th. There is really no comparison. We are a poorly constructed, poorly coached team.

You are right though, we do have the toughest SOS, while they have the 8th. They also don't have an AD.

Cleveland would struggle in the same situation with Lebron. OKC would struggle in the same situation with Westbrook. Golden St. would struggle in the same situation with Curry. The Clippers got spanked in this same situation against the Suns. A team the Pelicans just beat twice.

I don't know what kind of magic you are expecting to see.

[UNO Gracias]

I guess I am just overselling the transcendent AD. I expected what Larry Brown warned us about (how when AD got to a team they would win 50 games he was just that good). Oh well. My bad.

[Npliam]

Cleveland would struggle in the same situation with Lebron. OKC would struggle in the same situation with Westbrook. Golden St. would struggle in the same situation with Curry. The Clippers got spanked in this same situation against the Suns. A team the Pelicans just beat twice.

I don't know what kind of magic you are expecting to see.

I don't think you are giving the Jazz or coach Snyder nearly enough credit.

[GuardianAngel25]

Our players simply didn't hit shots tonight. This wasn't a coaching problem. Everybody missing except AD while Ish takes the second most shots by near double everyone else's attempts you will lose. We need our players back and some time to gel before expectations of beating teams constantly is realistic. Having the players we are missing give you the chance to wins these games with the expectations at least a couple of them play well even when Gordon, Ryno, and Jrue suck. Just Reke having a good game and QPon average hitting a couple of shots we win. That's the difference when having actual talent.

[Perth_Hornet]

#GoodresultforBen

[4Real]

We are going to be a miracle cured when Cole and Reke return! I'm going to have the bump all the hate Cole threads you guys did during the summer.

[luckyman]

I don't think you are giving the Jazz or coach Snyder nearly enough credit.

I gave them enough because they obviously factor into the Pelicans #1 SOS.

But they also just beat a team missing 3.5 important players. They were missing Favors, then take away Burks 21 points and Ingles 9 off the bench. Then give us Cole and Pondexter. Do they still win tonight?

I don't like that Gentry only played our big Cs 12 minutes. Let Asik work through his issues while he still rebounds and defends. But that still is not the main issue right now. Ish playing both ends for 37 minutes per night is.

[GuardianAngel25]

Well 339-382 is nothing to jump and down about but you be the judge.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...entral99c.html

You need to go take a look and dig a little deeper into the situations he was put in and what some of his rosters looked like. Then check his record when he had even some talent. You looking up the history of his record while not even considering or probably knowing all of his situations means nothing.

[4Real]

When Reke returns whenever that is we are not losing! I'll play along

[4Real]

You need to go take a look and dig a little deeper into the situations he was put in and what some of his rosters looked like. Then check his record when he had even some talent. You looking up the history of his record while not even considering or probably knowing all of his situations means nothing.

Oh so that is is! That is what you came up with?

[GuardianAngel25]

Which games were Utah missing 4.5 starters and 1.5 bench players? Who is on a minute restriction for them? The Pelicans SOS is ranked 1st by a mile over Utah's 8th.

Are you really comparing these two teams right now? Really?

Few cant seem to get it through to their heads and it's a little shocking. I can find countless cases of good and great coaches having bad season when they aren't loaded with talent. We are suppose to win every game with a star a couple of scrubs along with bench players as starters. The Jazz have a good team with depth but I would love to see them missing a few players.

[UNO Gracias]

I can't wait til we are healthy and winning at a .600 clip. That will finally be the time when we can judge Gentry. Not til then though. Why do we even need a coach if we are just going to say "well he needs healthy players for his system to work." Just let him hang out at home, and then when we are finally healthy tell him to come on back.

Maybe during his hiatus we can have fans buy $1000 raffle tickets where if their name is called they get to coach the team that night. It could end with the fan doing a press conference, being dumbfounded as to why their team lost, and maybe even throw in a few nice suits for them to wear to them game.

[4Real]

I can't wait til we are healthy and winning at a .600 clip. That will finally be the time when we can judge Gentry. Not til then though. Why do we even need a coach if we are just going to say "well he needs healthy players for his system to work." Just let him hang out at home, and then when we are finally healthy tell him to come on back.

Maybe during his hiatus we can have fans buy $1000 raffle tickets where if their name is called they get to coach the team that night. It could end with the fan doing a press conference, being dumbfounded as to why their team lost, and maybe even throw in a few nice suits for them to wear to them game.

That is what Kerr is doing while recovering from surgery. He is not coming back till they start losing. Which maybe a while. Opposite of us