I think we would have to create space to make a bid.Originally Posted by Sovereign
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I think we would have to create space to make a bid.
I'm not crazy about it, but i'm not mad either. If his defense improves under Erman and he does better in this faster pace system that Gentry will implement, like MM said, I think this deal is a bargain when the cap spikes. If we can re-sign Ryno next offseason, assuming he has a bounce back year, I think we will have a good/great frontcourt for the next four or five years.
Called it?
Wouldn't take much though. Obviously we have to bank on the one thing we've yet to sustain since acquiring davis, which is fielding a healthy team for a full season. If that happens, we're looking at a chance to win the best division in basketball, thus making everyone on our team extremely valuable. We knew this deal was inevitable, so a few million won't make a big difference in the long run. Best believe that we'll have the cap space if there's any inkling of Durant wanting to form the greatest dynasty of all time.
I'd say its been a pretty good day playerwise, and now we'll see where things go from here.... with the coaching changes, a very solid offseason showing so far for the organization.... to say the least....
"we might make dollars, but we don't necessarily make sense"
"always be sincere....whether you mean it or not"
Ginsberg says we'd have to clear roughly $5M to be able to do another max
"The pelican is fearsome. Take a raven, for example: it's omnivorous. It eats bugs, and seeds, and fruit, and carrion. Compared to the well-rounded citizen that is the raven, the pelican is the serial killer of birds." - Barry Petchesky, Deadspin
I mean this. Freaking this. I honestly can't believe the Q.Q people are doing over Asik getting 11m/yr.
Only fools thought it would be a 3 yr deal. It was always gonna be 4 and honestly 1m/yr over 10m is not a big deal at all. Look at the other C deals signed today.
Agreed, we won't know the true value of this deal until we see what Dell does with the exceptions. He's been a master at the small things so I fully expect a Gerald Green type signing soon. I know RJ has been floated out there & maybe a few years ago that would of excited me, but honestly I'd prefer keeping Dante over him.
Peace of cake
If we could sign gerald green id consider this offseason a huge success.
A fully unguaranteed 14M last year ? this contract will be a very good trade assets ath the end, especially because with the cap rising furry some team will probably needs to unload some contract at this time.
Year 4 is basically an expiring as the 5th is a team option.
Yeah, but would he sign for the current MLE? I'd say there's a decent chance. One year deal to showcase his talents on an uber-talented, fast paced squad. Then he can cash out next season when the cap increase kicks in.
and that 5th year is $14M of mostly unguaranteed money... I'm betting he never sees year 5 of this contract
it'll either be redone or he won't be a Pelican
No it will not, that is a common misconception that is brought about by using the current cap calculations to estimate into the future. The Cba will be renegotiated after the 2016 season, so the 2017 season will almost defiantly be adjusted to keep the cap from wild up AND down fluctuations in 2018,2019,2020. The cap is likely to be slightly under 100 mill and then raise by a relative constant of between 5-7 mill for about 3 years.
Its possible, but even if it didnt im excited to see what this team can do with an ever improving ad, healthy jrue, and ryno coming back to form. Injuries aside next season will be fun to watch.
Awesome
Tiago Splitter signed a 4yr deal worth 13.4% of the cap. People said it was fair market and good to lock him up quick. He was then able to be traded later when no longer needed.
Asik signs a deal worth 12.3% of the cap starting next year and some people are in panic mode.
This, its a great deal IMO.
Great example & our GM comes from that same organization. There's just too many variables to solve this equation now. I tend not to doubt the guy who has run all these numbers daily for the last few years. Dell is on the verge of locking up his job until Davis retires, so I'm gonna place my faith in him for now.
It's not a great deal. But it's not horrible either.
It's an ok deal for an ok center. It's honestly not worth the energy it's going to receive on either side of this debate.
Oh ok. So basically neither of us has any idea how it will play out until the new CBA is signed.
Remember the NBA asked the Players Association about smoothing out this spike and they said no. I see absolutely zero guarantee they will smooth out the next.
I'm fine with 4 thank god its not a guaranteed 5
I'm a grinder
Damn! A couple seasons back, I would of been all good with this move. BUT the way he's looked in a Pelicans uniform thus far makes me worry a bit. I was hoping for something like 4 years at 40 million, but guess that was out of the question. I just wish we could of waited to see what some of the other big men got paid first. But whose to say that may have made it worse, lol. At 12 per, I wish we would of at least seen what Monroe would of wanted. Don't think he and AD play all that great together. Would of loved to see what a legitimate low post scorer would of looked like next to AD. But oh well!
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