No. Our first year can only be what we declined, so if another team offers something higher we cannot match. Bird rights is irrelevant in that regard.Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans
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No. Our first year can only be what we declined, so if another team offers something higher we cannot match. Bird rights is irrelevant in that regard.
Wow Demps is an absolute idiot for declining that option.
Wow Demps is an absolute idiot for declining that option.
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Fans call Demps and idiot for drafting Rivers, now after 1 good game he's an idiot for declining his option. If Rivers played his first 2 seasons like he was worth it his option wouldn't have been declined.
That would never happen.
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4 games in, give him the max!
If you Jimmer it, they will come.
Weird, we said the same thing about Aminu when we declined him and he had a great first game against the spurs 2 seasons back
thanks
Funny how raisingthebar knew exactly what I was asking, because all he had to do was read what I asked.
Thank you, I am gonna have to start treating this forum like it's a freaking harvard english class from now on.
Don't be upset. You DO say lots of wrong things and I DID read what you asked, we can't extend his contract. We can offer him a new one but we can't extend anything.
He's an idiot because the risk of declining the option was higher than the reward. This is about more than one game. It's one game and the last 30 games of last season. Give me one good reason he had for declining the option? Because to my understanding it doesn't even create more cap space.
He's an idiot because the risk of declining the option was higher than the reward. This is about more than one game. It's one game and the last 30 games of last season. Give me one good reason he had for declining the option? Because to my understanding it doesn't even create more cap space.
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You really cannot possibly believe what you are saying.
What wouldn't i believe? What's a good reason to decline the option?
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I've said it at least 3 times in this thread...Rivers' play first 2 seasons did not warrant his 3-4mil a year price tag next year. That is unarguable.
I was saying this before Rivers had this game and actually had it recording on DVR so knew nothing about it. Yes you are correct on people going nuts either way he does something but no matter what I have always taken the stance wether it's a great game or horrible give him time to actually develop. No do not believe he will be Lebron or Durant but the sky absolutely is the limit for this kid. He could still be in college but instead left before his body was developed. Now his body is catching up and he still has room fornimproeent on his strength, speed, quickness, etc.. He has all the tools and ability you see in a great pg/sg. He has the ability hands down t be a star in this league not saying a super star but definitely a star. To say otherwise is just being ignorant. He also has the ability to go absolutely nowheree from what he is now and being a 7th guy or starter on terrible teams. Leonard and George both went from guys who weren't stats to superstars over the course of a season. Rivers has the ability to atleast hit start level with development over the next few years no doubt. He can get to the basket with the best of them and has an elite skill at that. He is not an elite finisher around the rim but has become much better and I believe he will get better. His confidence and shot has been what has held him back from really tearing it up which he is getting back. Rivers was hampered by injuries and other bad breaks to keep him off the court. Hard to come in with limited minutes and prove anything but with the playong time he has done so as of lately and end of last season. In a way he reminds me a lot of Mark Ingram. I respect everyone's view on him wether they think he will be garbage or great. I have seen you many times say how it isn't fair we don't let people develop anymore like the old days and they are done after one bad season in the fans eyes. You have also stated being on good teams can be drastic in how a player turns out and develops. I think we are building something special and guys will teach their potential.
Avery Bradley is a very good player - far better than Rivers has ever been. Saying that is his ceiling is not an insult. A pretty big compliment IMO
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Avery Bradley does not have near the skill set or ability that Rivers has offensively. Rivers from day 1 was better at getting to the rim than Bradley will ever be. He has a much higher ceiling and potential than Bradley has. He's is also 3 inches taller with a good bit of weight and now strength turning into his favor. Bradley is a great defender for the guard position and Rivers has the ability to be as good or better on that side of the ball. Bradley has nowhere near the ability Rivers has on offense. Bradley can not play the pg position to save his life and has to be an undersized 2 guard who makes a name for himself with effort, defense, and a decent 3 point shot. Rivers has the ability to play both guard spots and even at times cover the 3. Rivers can create for his teammates which Bradley doesn't have in his skill set. Rivers will make a huge jump year 3 and change a lot of people's view on him and I'm willing to put $ on it.
Last edited by GuardianAngel25; 11-05-2014 at 05:53 PM.
I'll tell you this much. IF..... IF a team is going to take a "one-and-done" type of kid from college, they need to be able to get him ample time and opportunity for the original skills they liked in him to take over. We don't have many guys ever playing down a level. It sucked watching Julian Wright digress as a Hornet. Losing Brandon Bass for nothing is only one reason of many reasons I hate Byron Scott. ECSPECIALLY after he said how he's never seen someone go in practice so hard, then fold in games? (Cause he would get yanked when he took a bad shot and all)
I'd like to see Russ Smith a little more
Saying Rivers ceiling is Avery Bradley is in no way a compliment and as insulting as it gets. I don't understand that ceiling comparison at all.
Byron Scott mite arguably be the worst coach in NBA history for a rookie to learn, develop, and get the time he needs to learn the game. I think Rivers just wasn't ready physically along with some mechanics. He got thrown in the fire a little to early because of injuries instead of being able to develop his skills. In a way it was good for him but was also bad. I think injuries slowed down a lot of his progress also from having to rehab instead of get better. He just needs time like many other very good players needed and it is showing in his play late last season and early this season. Rivers needed to earn his play and he has. Russ Smith is someone I would like to see play more also but just like Rivers I want to see him earn it and have the time to develop without people judging him as a rookie or in his 2nd season on what he will be. Not fair to expect these players to be maxed out immediately. For all we know AD is maxed out but none of us believe so. Davis needed time also and it's showing what it is doing for him to allow and give him the fair chance to develop. He has arguably become the most coveted player in the league if you could go and draft every single player in a pool.
Last edited by GuardianAngel25; 11-05-2014 at 06:09 PM.
Okay I see what you're saying. Sorry, I was being irrational. But the last 1/3rd of last season Rivers played well enough for a 21 year old to earn his option imo. You can't keep looking back at his rookie season when considering his future. If GMs stayed in the past no way do Ariza get his contract this summer.
If you are offended by Avery Bradley as Rivers ceiling, then I have a feeling you will be very disappointed by how his career plays out. Not everyone can be great. Being one of the top 100 players in the world (which Bradley is) is an amazing accomplishment. Does Rivers handle better? Sure. Bradley has other skill sets than Rivers won't touch. But role wise - great defensive guard who can knock down shots and score in bunches from time to time, I think that is his ceiling, and that is a compliment in my eyes.
and looking at their 3rd year cumulative stats, they sit pretty spot on, couple of minor differences here or there, but overall on the money.
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