Trade, signing, whatever dude.Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN
When your coach is ready to sit you down after a few missed shots (shots that were good looks, mind you), who wouldn't feel hesitant to keep shooting?
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Trade, signing, whatever dude.
When your coach is ready to sit you down after a few missed shots (shots that were good looks, mind you), who wouldn't feel hesitant to keep shooting?
Last edited by Pelicanned; 11-05-2014 at 10:02 AM.
True in most cases, but he did have the ball a couple times in the 3rd and passed it off pretty fast.
I don't think Monty sat him down because of his shooting, it's still early days and he is working out his rotations. If Monty wanted to freak Jimmer out he would give him the Marcus Thornton treatment. That's the one amazing thing. MT didn't play defense, and Monty stresses defense so he benched MT. The biggest knock on Jimmer coming here was that he couldn't play defense, yet he has gotten almost 10 min a game (avg).
Jim ors shot will fall, and when it does he will get more minuets. If anything, the way Munthy is treating Jibed is confidence building. He isn't playing the role of the Sandman at the Apallo on a bad act. He is encouraging him to go on.
If you Jimmer it, they will come.
He passed the ball off when he had shots. That's not a lack of confidence in his shot, that's an awareness of seeing the open guy. A few of those times he passed the ball off he should have had assists, but the guys didn't finish the shots. If anything he is setting an example for others.
That's what you believe. I believe he passed the ball off because he didn't want to get benched again for missing. I've watched him play almost every game since his rookie season, he's experienced this before. Coaches screwing him over for minor mistakes, while other guys practically get away with murder on the court.
And, yeah, Jimmer's a very unselfish and humble player, he's been that way since day 1 in the NBA. He doesn't play selfish hero ball like Tyreke. He tries to be a good team player, everything you're supposed to be to be a good basketball player. But then he still gets benched regardless. So when you're trying to do everything right, greatly improving your defense, playing team ball, and you still find yourself getting pulled after 3 min (for a crap player like Gordon), or getting hit with DNPs, you start questioning yourself.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Monty let him play last night. I just hope he gets consistency and a fair shake like the other players who are trying to get through rough patches like Gordon and Rivers. Rivers got that confidence from Monty and he was able to put together a very good game last night.
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Ryno didn't get benched because he's done 10 times more in the NBA than Jimmer has and and shown he bounces back. He's earned it. Also if you paid attention you would have noticed that actually Gordon's minutes were cut a bit and given to Rivers, who proved that he deserved them.
And that's why Ryno has the confidence to go out and shoot great after a bad game, because he knows the coach won't pull him from the game when he makes mistakes.
Why is this so hard to understand?
And Rivers proved he deserved them? LOL. Rivers didn't get Gordon's minutes because of anything Rivers did, he got *some* of Gordon's minutes because Gordon wouldn't make it on a high school squad.
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If this is true then he doesn't have mentally what it takes to be in the NBA.
How is he not getting a fair shake man? Seriously, the team is still gelling, and they aren't even passing to guys they are familiar with, let alone a new guy.
Give it a month before you say he isn't getting a fair shake with Manty. Monty has played white unathletic guys, and black guys with low bbiq's. Jimmer will get his, so can you please show some patience. Your making the rest of us (who want to see the Pelicans AND Jimmer do well) look retarded.
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Why is it so hard to understand that your 8th, 9th or 10th player isn't going to get plays drawn up for them. Or that possibly, just maybe, every single coach in the NBA isn't out to ruin Jimmer's career. Or that maybe an NBA player shouldn't lose confidence after getting "benched" 1 game.
Except he's still in the NBA. 4 years and counting. Guess he does have something...
By the way, where did you play?
I explained that above, please re-read.
Oh I'd love to give it a month. Monty's given Jimmer 2 out of 4 days so far though. If Jimmer plays through 30 games with at least 10 min a night and is still sucking rocks, then I'll agree he hasn't got it. That's all I'm asking for, a consistent chance. A real, legit chance with no BS DNPs or mystery benchings.
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Earning a minimum contract...John Salmons is making more, what does that say?
I played HS basketball and some scout team in college, nothing special. I didn't think you had to be a professional to analyze and break down a game or a player. I'm guessing you won a championship with the Spurs or something? How are you related to Jimmer again?
I don't know a single team that doesn't have plays drawn up for their best shooter (and yes, Jimmer's a better career shooter than Ryno), regardless of where they sit in the rotation. Every great team has a shooter play that is used often and liberally used during games.
If Monty's the kind of coach that doesn't believe in drawing up plays for his best shooter(s), then perhaps he's not mentally fit for the NBA.
So you didn't have mentally what it took to be in the NBA then? Gotcha.
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Doesn't that tell you something if the best shooter on the team is at the bottom of the bench.
Those are not legit excuses for "not getting a fair shake." Jimmer wasn't brought in here to be Steph Curry. He was brought in to be Anthony Morrow. Anthony Morrow was a bench guy. No coach is going to take this part of the season to force a bench guy into being a Manu type bench player. Stop trying to say he isn't getting a fair shake because he isn't getting more minuets. Over his career he hasn't proved anything with what he was give, and now he is in a stable environment where he can be NBA ready the right way.
Jimmer's minuets will come, but Monty needs to set his rotations and Jimmer needs to learn how to play in the NBA.
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Probably not but more importantly I didn't have the talent, just like you and 99.99% of the individuals that post on here. But if I were in the NBA, was a 4 year vet and lost my confidence after a bench player gets benched then yes I would not have a tough enough mentality to be in the NBA. What are you trying to prove? That all of us here couldn't be in the NBA. WOW you are a real smart guy, really went out on a limb there.
They are perfectly legit reasons. And nobody is saying Jimmer was brought here to be Steph Curry or Manu. OMG, why must this always descend into hyperbole? Nobody's saying Jimmer's the next god of the NBA or going to replace Davis or anything. We're just asking for him to be given a shot - as I said: 30 consistent games with 10 min or more a night. If he gets that and fails, I'm outta here. I'll shut-up and you'll never hear from me again. That's all Jimmer fans have ever asked for.
Great. Awesome. I hope you're right. In the meantime, I'll be discussing it on these forums.
It's almost starting to move past "hilarious" and more towards "uncomfortable". As in, if this were to keep progressing and somone close to Fredette were to see it, I could legitimately see a restraining order being filed for.
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He's not going to get that. After 30 games he may average around 10 minutes per game, but the fact is there are going to be games where it doesn't work matchup wise and he is going to play your 4 garbage minutes that you will complain about. I just think all the people that aren't just Jimmer fans, want the just Jimmer fans to wait a little bit and see how his playing time and opportunists look after we have been going after it for a couple of months. We have played 4 games of the season, in the NFL that would still be too early to get upset, we still have 78 games left to play. It's not like we are just going to cut Jimmer after 30 games.
Jimmer fans, what the hell is a Jimmer fan? Do you support Ralph Nader, drink tab, and sport Z Cavvarichi jeans?
Be a fan of a team. If you are going about this as a fan of one guy you will lose focus of the things taking place around him, and in doing so, you will fail to see why things are happening to 1 guy.
It's not hard to understand, we are a young team. We had a lot of injuries last year. In the course of that last year we weren't able to have key guys play together and build chemistry. This offseason we lost one of our bench guys, but he was a bench player. We brought in what we all hope is his replacement. Now that the year has started we have to get our key players to play like a cohesive unit. In the process of that (and in the large amount of time that will take up) our coach has to figure out how he wants to rotate players while still giving our key guys major minuets. This is not so that we can be a .500 team, as if we don't make the playoffs or see some major improvements our coach will get canned.
In all of this **** storm do your really think he has time to not give a guy a fair shake? The guy is neck deep in his own problems that he doesn't have time to have an ax to grind with a player.
I feel like Jimmers minutes will come and I am certain that he will have games where he lights it up on the offensive end. His team mates didn't really seem to be looking for him all the much last night. I suspect that will come with time on the court and a few of those nights when he lights it up.
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That's inevitable.
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