I want a larger sample size before I crown Rivers. He has shown improvement, yes, but he still is shooting 50% at the line and still has a ways to go in development.Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25
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I want a larger sample size before I crown Rivers. He has shown improvement, yes, but he still is shooting 50% at the line and still has a ways to go in development.
I hear u. But rivers definitely looks much better.
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I think both sides go too far with Rivers.
After a bad game, he is the worst player ever.
After a good game, "the sky is the limit."
Neither is true IMO. What is undeniable, however, is that he is an NBA caliber player. Whether he is a 7th guy on a good team or a 9th or 10th guy, the fact is that he is good enough to be a rotation player right now in the NBA and that deserves respect. Now, he can get better than that, but the sky is not the limit. Maybe an office building is the limit, or a mini sky scraper. But not the sky. There is clearly a limit for this guy - be it fringe starter like Avery Bradley or a little less like Jerryd Bayless. But either way, he is a legit NBA player.
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Hmmm
From that TP article where Rivers said its a business, and he was going to make them regret not extending him? I guess different readers get different messages from the same piece, like The Jungle, Alice in Wonderland, or Mein Kampf.
If you Jimmer it, they will come.
Less ill advised shots.
If those 16 points come on 50 shots...
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But they came on 11 shots....
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Rivers had a good game for us. I'd like to see him play more with the starters than Gordon but whatever do your thing Monty. If he can provide what he did last night game after game we couldn't ask for much more out of our 7th man.
Rivers has been playing really well so far this season.
Emeka Okafor - Joe Smith - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Jason Williams
Al Jefferson - James Posey - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston
Rivers works hard and has improved every season, why would u not pick up his option, especially with a rumored increase salary cap? doh!
even though we declined his option is it still possible to give him a contract extension?
I'll let you re read your question and see if the answer isn't also in the question. . .
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Because his level of play over his first 1 seasons didn't warrant his 3-4mil salary he would have got next year.
Absolutely.
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The only restriction is that the dollar amount of the 1st year of that extension cannot be higher than the dollar amount of the year we declined.
We opted out so we wouldn't have to keep paying him like a lottery pick.
I think we'll lock him up for a few years at a much cheaper price, with a team option. (good contract for unproven talent)
We cannot give him a contract extension because at the end of this season we will have no contract with him. He will be an UFA this offseason.
We can negotiate with him and offer him a new contract but we cannot go higher than what his QO amount was, so other teams could theoretically offer him more. We can offer him the same amount of years as other teams however.
Basically if Rivers has a good year we can easily be outbid on him. If he has an average year we should be able to bring him back. If he has an awful year he is off our books.
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Guru didn't say at the end of the year. He just asked if we could give him a contract extension. The answer as I explained it yes, and by extension you know he means just a contract.
http://midlevelexceptional.com/2014/...cale-contract/
So as long as the 1st year of the hypothetical contract dollar amount is less than the year we declined we could offer him a deal. But I have a feeling we will let him play out his contract and test free agency.Let’s use Thomas Robinson as an example. Portland had a team option for the 2015-16 season that would have paid T-Rob about $4.66 million. Declining it means that Robinson will be an Unrestricted Free Agent this summer free to sign with anyone he likes without matching or compensation. While he can sign with any of the other 29 teams for whatever amount he likes from his minimum to his maximum, Robinson cannot come to any agreement with Portland that would have his first-year salary higher than that approximately $4.66 million amount.
I honestly don't know what Guru meant, he says lots of things that are wrong, so I took his question at face value and answered it.
It's not going to happen before year's end. There is absolutely ZERO incentive for Rivers to sign any type of extension. I laid out exactly what will happen.
We will have to negotiate a new contract with him. If he plays good, we get out bid, average we will be able to bring him back, bad he is off the books.
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I don't think anything will happen before the end of the year, so I agree with you there. But you know that he was just asking if there was a way we could keep him on the team even though we declined his option. That's all he meant, not going to give him a hard time because the wording may not have been 1000% correct.
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Austin Rivers and Sam Cassell. 7 years apart, tied together forever.
Wait so if rivers plays out of his mind and is offered 4 year 40 million. We couldn't offer him more even with bird rights?
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