2014 Playoffs - Geaux CP3

[PelsFan2313]

Have to agree with MM on this one.

Hell of a shot, hell of a series. The man certainly inherited the clutch gene. But calling him the best PG in the league based off such a small and frankly flawed sample size is just silly.

[kclaboy504]

MM if your a gm and your drafting your own team. Who do you pick first? Lillard, cp3, curry, Westbrook, rondo, holiday, Parker, Irving,dragic

[kclaboy504]

1. He's a winner.

Won one playoff series, in which his big man carried them through first two games that gave them control

2. He makes things happen

Yeah, Curry and Cp3 dont do that

3. Inexperience isnt a factor

That's a point in his favor? Huh?

4. What you want out of your pg

Like I said, we need to shut this board down at a certain time

Look, guy hit a great shot (BTW the ONLY points he scored in the 4th tonight) and he lit it up this series. Take nothing away from him. But if you look at the season as a whole, there is no way that argument can be made. He probably wont make 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team all NBA. He had a good year, but CP3, Westbrook, Curry, and Parker all had better. Give the man his props on an amazing shot and a great series, but lets not be prisoners of the moment.

I agree somewhat but give me lillard over Westbrook all day.

[PelsFan2313]

MM if your a gm and your drafting your own team. Who do you pick first? Lillard, cp3, curry, Westbrook, rondo, holiday, Parker, Irving,dragic

Juicy question. I'm obviously not MM, but I want to answer it anyways haha.

1. Curry
2. Westbrook
3. Lillard
4. Parker
5. Rondo
6. Holiday
7. Irving
8. Dragic
9. CP3

CP3 last simply b/c I don't believe he has many All Star caliber years left in the tank. This is on first impression though...my rankings would probably change a bit with more thought and consideration.

[kclaboy504]

Juicy question. I'm obviously not MM, but I want to answer it anyways haha.

1. Curry
2. Westbrook
3. Lillard
4. Parker
5. Rondo
6. Holiday
7. Irving
8. Dragic
9. CP3

CP3 last simply b/c I don't believe he has many All Star caliber years left in the tank. This is on first impression though...my rankings would probably change a bit with more thought and consideration.

Yea your good. Sorry I wasn't trying to make my question solely for 1 person. Me personally I'm doing it in this order,
1. Curry
2. Lillard
3.cp3
4. Rondo
5. Parker
6. Irving
7. Holiday
8. Westbrook
9. Dragic

I can really go in any direction with 6-9 tho. Those were tough. I hear ya on cp3 and I'm not a fan of his either but he still has that floor general game that I love. He's not the scorer he used to be but he's still a beast and I think he has a good 5-6 years of elite in him. Parker is another tough one. You think he will take a step down in his game the following year and he is just as good if not better. Parker and cp3 are the best pgs in the nba at this very moment IMO.

[PelsFan2313]

Yea your good. Sorry I wasn't trying to make my question solely for 1 person. Me personally I'm doing it in this order,
1. Curry
2. Lillard
3.cp3
4. Rondo
5. Parker
6. Irving
7. Holiday
8. Westbrook
9. Dragic

I can really go in any direction with 6-9 tho. Those were tough. I hear ya on cp3 and I'm not a fan of his either but he still has that floor general game that I love. He's not the scorer he used to be but he's still a beast and I think he has a good 5-6 years of elite in him. Parker is another tough one. You think he will take a step down in his game the following year and he is just as good if not better. Parker and cp3 are the best pgs in the nba at this very moment IMO.

Flip CP3 with Westbrook and our list would basically be the same.

Clearly, you're obviously not too high on Westbrook. I think he's one of those players who draws an excessive amount of attention to his flaws, particularly due to the fact that said flaws tend to negatively affect the productivity of their best player: KD. His combination of speed, power, athleticism, and defensive potential makes him a top 10 player in the league nevertheless, but he would probably be better served becoming the alpha dog on another team. I agree with you on Parker. I wanted to put him lower, but couldn't b/c he just doesn't show any signs of slowing down. Also doesn't have an extensive injury history. On a somewhat unrelated note, Lillard just isn't good enough on the defensive side or efficient enough offensively to warrant top point guard consideration. With that said, given his age and offensive talent, I had to rank him high in comparison to the other players you provided.

[nolaslim213]

1. He's a winner.

Won one playoff series, in which his big man carried them through first two games that gave them control

2. He makes things happen

Yeah, Curry and Cp3 dont do that

3. Inexperience isnt a factor

That's a point in his favor? Huh?

4. What you want out of your pg

Like I said, we need to shut this board down at a certain time

Look, guy hit a great shot (BTW the ONLY points he scored in the 4th tonight) and he lit it up this series. Take nothing away from him. But if you look at the season as a whole, there is no way that argument can be made. He probably wont make 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team all NBA. He had a good year, but CP3, Westbrook, Curry, and Parker all had better. Give the man his props on an amazing shot and a great series, but lets not be prisoners of the moment.

Yeah, ooooooookay

[pelicans_82-0]

MM if your a gm and your drafting your own team. Who do you pick first? Lillard, cp3, curry, Westbrook, rondo, holiday, Parker, Irving,dragic

This would be my order
CP3
Westbrook
Lillard
Curry
Parker
Holiday
Dragic
Irving
Rondo

[Kurgan]

Lillard best pg, now i've heard it all. I'm definitely happy the rockets got kicked out, too good to be true

[Tin_Food]

I remember lillard and his rotating door defense. that said curry does the same but I'd rate curry higher, both are amazing shooters, what Would make curry the better player? efficiency? playmaking?

[UptownFuz504]

What a big difference between the 6th and 10th pick. I remember people 'round here saying that the 10th pick had a higher ceiling and brighter future than the 6th pick.

[UNO Gracias]

What a big difference between the 6th and 10th pick. I remember people 'round here saying that the 10th pick had a higher ceiling and brighter future than the 6th pick.

That's what I recall. If you pull up that thread you would have thought the Blazers had just drafted Darren Collison 2.0.

Give me Lillard over any pg right now.

[UptownFuz504]

I have a Harden question. Do y'all think that he's worth his salary. He scores a lot of points but he's terrible on defense and most of the time his shooting % is not good. I personally don't think that he's a max player. When I think max player, I think Lebron or Durant. He's not on that level. This wasn't his best series either. What y'all think?

[BallSoHard]

I have a Harden question. Do y'all think that he's worth his salary. He scores a lot of points but he's terrible on defense and most of the time his shooting % is not good. I personally don't think that he's a max player. When I think max player, I think Lebron or Durant. He's not on that level. This wasn't his best series either. What y'all think?

He's worth it for sure, but not all max level players were created equally. In a perfect world, only the top tier players get maxes, but in this NBA that's not really true. Max players are guys like Harden and i think deservedly so.

[JJackisangry]

It seems like Lilliard stole the clutch gene from Derek Fischer, but he neglected to take any of his other qualities. The West is scary as hell.

[MichaelMcNamara]

MM if your a gm and your drafting your own team. Who do you pick first? Lillard, cp3, curry, Westbrook, rondo, holiday, Parker, Irving,dragic

So, I am assuming it is for the next 10 years.

I go Curry.

For one year or one game, either CP3 or Parker.

Can't wait until Jrue gets back on the court. He was really coming along and I think he will pair so well with Tyreke

[Nola3]

So, I am assuming it is for the next 10 years.

I go Curry.

For one year or one game, either CP3 or Parker.

Can't wait until Jrue gets back on the court. He was really coming along and I think he will pair so well with Tyreke

Let's just hope they actually get a chance to play together......

[kclaboy504]

So, I am assuming it is for the next 10 years.

I go Curry.

For one year or one game, either CP3 or Parker.

Can't wait until Jrue gets back on the court. He was really coming along and I think he will pair so well with Tyreke

Right, for the foreseeable future. I agree on curry and then I'd have to go lillard or Irving.

[MichaelMcNamara]

Irving is not even in the conversation for me. Not being a homer - I would take Jrue over him.

[PelsFan2313]

I have a Harden question. Do y'all think that he's worth his salary. He scores a lot of points but he's terrible on defense and most of the time his shooting % is not good. I personally don't think that he's a max player. When I think max player, I think Lebron or Durant. He's not on that level. This wasn't his best series either. What y'all think?

With that sort of thinking, there shouldn't be more than two max players in the league.

[N.O.Bronco]

Flip CP3 with Westbrook and our list would basically be the same.

Clearly, you're obviously not too high on Westbrook. I think he's one of those players who draws an excessive amount of attention to his flaws, particularly due to the fact that said flaws tend to negatively affect the productivity of their best player: KD. His combination of speed, power, athleticism, and defensive potential makes him a top 10 player in the league nevertheless, but he would probably be better served becoming the alpha dog on another team. I agree with you on Parker. I wanted to put him lower, but couldn't b/c he just doesn't show any signs of slowing down. Also doesn't have an extensive injury history. On a somewhat unrelated note, Lillard just isn't good enough on the defensive side or efficient enough offensively to warrant top point guard consideration. With that said, given his age and offensive talent, I had to rank him high in comparison to the other players you provided.

As the alpha dog somewhere where there isn't another superstar on his team Westbrook won't win it all anywhere IMO.

On a team where he is with another superstar he will take away from the superstar and ultimately hurt the chemistry of the team by commanding the most shots and often times disrupting the flow of the offense. Yes everyone knows he will have those games where he looks like GOAT but there often married to games where his style is a severe detriment to his team. And taking the good with bad means you are settling for your team to be an inconsistent mess at times during playoff time IMO because Westbrook often doesn't know when he needs to step back and work on getting everyone else started instead of himself.



For me it comes down to this. Most of those guys on that top ten list will make your other superstars and elite players better with their presence and style of play, and thus the team as a whole, Westbrook would take away from most superstars and disrupt offensive cohesion and flow while adding more inconsistency to most teams. Yes he is an elite talent but so are a lot of those other guys and they don't come with the glaring negatives.

[UNO Gracias]

Harden and Lillard are both worth whatever the market bears because while their defense is suspect at best, the opposition is going to get in foul trouble quickly as both of them attack the basket. There are players who have crap shooting % because they can't hit water from a boat, then there are these two who attack the basket, and their shot doesn't fall. They get to the line for their 2 pt's. So yes, their shooting percentage is crap, and their defense is even worse, but they are leaders and keep their opponents in foul trouble. And that is very beneficial.

[pelicans_82-0]

Should we try to sign James Johnson this summer? His salary right now is $634,610.
He is athletic, can defend and can shoot behind the arc.
If we can get him for cheap, he is worth consideration.

[Eman5805]

Reggie Jackson is wasted in OKC. I think he has starter talent. If Indy wants to improve their odds going forward, they need to gauge the trade value for him this offseason.

[da ThRONe]

Reggie Jackson is wasted in OKC. I think he has starter talent. If Indy wants to improve their odds going forward, they need to gauge the trade value for him this offseason.

I like Mr October but he has a little to much Westbrook in him IMO. Guys with limited court vision at the point worries me. Russ can get away with it relatively often because he's such a freak athlete.