Official Fire Monty Thread

[kclaboy504]

My point all along hasn't changed... whether I, or you or anybody want Monty gone or not is irrelevant. He's gonna get a pass for this season because of the injuries (and his shiny new contract). Ever since CP3 and DW left he's had an excuse, and this season he's had more of an excuse due to all the injuries regardless of his love for Robert or his questionable rotations.

But keep calling the dude an idiot and whatever if that helps y'all sleep at night. The sooner you realize he's here for at least another season (barring any more excuses next season)... the sooner folks will stop bumping this thread. You're delusional if you think Benson is gonna fire Monty after this season.

Nobody on this board knows if he will be back or fired including you. MANY coaches have been fired after given a new contract a year or 2 into it. Wouldn't be the first and def won't be the last. Hell mike brown got canned after 8 games. Mo cheeks just got canned after 50. The list is long of coaches who have been fired not long after a contract was handed out. If they are going to fire him or keep him won't be based on his contract like you keep implying. It's gonna be based on basketball reasons I guarantee you that's if they feel he needs another year. He will get it, but they aren't gonna say yea we don't want him but we just gave him a new contract last year so we must keep him.

[kclaboy504]

dude this thread is 48 pages of redundancy, why does everyone feel the need post the exact same fire monty posts, they are all the same

There's a big difference. The ppl who post in this thread are just stating their feelings on Monty as a coach and writing why they want him fired. They aren't claiming they know the pelicans will fire him. They are just saying what they want done. He on the other hand is claiming to know Monty won't be fired based on his contract alone and that's completely off base. Like I said above. If he's gonna be fired or not. It won't be based on his contract.

[DefensiveMind]

As a fan base, we still suffer from Shinn era traumatization. It's clear that Monty's coaching is one of the aspects of this team that can be upgraded. However our Shinn era thinking has predisposed us to think that a myriad of other non basketball criterion will be most important when making a basketball decision. That's what we are used to. Monty will be fired because we can and should have better and it does not appear he will reach his potential with us. That's the issue. It makes absolutely no sense to put a gun to Monty's head and tell him to do better next season. If things hit a rough patch, then you run the risk of losing the team with a lame duck coach. If he's that close to the brink you just fire him now. Firing him 9 games into next season is bush league move. If this thread in anyway let's the FO know we are hip to the game and expect quality management then ill keep it going all summer.

[jgman]

Couple reasons. First, we keep losing. lol

Second, I think most probably realize that Monty's coming back, so this thread is partly fueled on by that frustration.

And as fans, we like to think our voices are heard, somehow. Some probably view this thread as their only way of letting the FO know how much they think Monty sucks, no matter how useless that may be.

Like I said, I view this as a vent thread more than one built for discussion, so those trying to constantly talk people down in here are likely wasting their time, and really, telling someone who thinks Monty sucks that he's coming back over and over again is tantamount to trolling. Don't want to see people complain about Monty, don't open a Monty complaints thread.

regardless of how you may see this thread, it is still a discussion, this is still a forum, and if he wants to respond to all the repeated monty complaints with his repeated answer he can. If everyone is going to come to this thread to post the same crap over and over again why is it trolling if he responds in kind? I think if anything all the "omg I'm so tired of Monty, Gordon for expirings and sign Karl? Why do we play roberts?" etc etc posts are much closer to trolling than anything DroopyDawg has said, at least a dissenting voice adds something to discussion instead of having a whole thread of literally *****ing

[DefensiveMind]

Sorry.

The moment you downplay the intellectual basis for the opposing sides argument you are in fact trolling. It's perfectly okay to accept the fact there are reasons Monty may stay. It's also perfectly acceptable to believe he should be gone. That's the discussion. Trying to make people look stupid or emotional or whatever is BS which is what a lot of "you" Monty will be here folks try to do. That's trolling.

If you don't have anything worth bringing to the discussion then just stay the hell away from it. You know what you are gonna get when you come here.

[PolishFan]

Couple reasons. First, we keep losing. lol

Second, I think most probably realize that Monty's coming back, so this thread is partly fueled on by that frustration.

And as fans, we like to think our voices are heard, somehow. Some probably view this thread as their only way of letting the FO know how much they think Monty sucks, no matter how useless that may be.

Like I said, I view this as a vent thread more than one built for discussion, so those trying to constantly talk people down in here are likely wasting their time, and really, telling someone who thinks Monty sucks that he's coming back over and over again is tantamount to trolling. Don't want to see people complain about Monty, don't open a Monty complaints thread.

you sir are "the voice of reason"

[IamQuailman]

Let's go Pels! Parade time!

[DroopyDawg]

Really starting to wonder why you feel like you have to post basically this same exact thing every week. I have to assume that perhaps you suffer from some sort of selective amnesia. This thread gets bumped because people need to vent. If we keep losing badly, it will, and should, keep getting bumped.

And we get it. You think Monty is coming back for another year. Thank you. We don't need your weekly update that never changes after every bad loss.

I was answering a question... and you (along with everybody else whining about Williams) continue to vent the same thing every time this ridiculous thread is bumped. We get it. Monty loves Roberts. he has terrible rotations. You hate him because he wears fl suits. Whatever. This time next year... you'll still be ********* and moaning about the same thing, and this thread will be on page 107.

[DroopyDawg]

Nobody on this board knows if he will be back or fired including you.

Again... if holding on to this helps you sleep at night... then I'm all for it bruh. Do you.

[DroopyDawg]

There's a big difference. The ppl who post in this thread are just stating their feelings on Monty as a coach and writing why they want him fired. They aren't claiming they know the pelicans will fire him. They are just saying what they want done. He on the other hand is claiming to know Monty won't be fired based on his contract alone and that's completely off base. Like I said above. If he's gonna be fired or not. It won't be based on his contract.

Re-read what I said, and you'll notice that I said he'll get a pass because of the injuries... NOT because of his contract alone. Here I'll help...

My point all along hasn't changed... whether I, or you or anybody want Monty gone or not is irrelevant. He's gonna get a pass for this season because of the injuries (and his shiny new contract). Ever since CP3 and DW left he's had an excuse, and this season he's had more of an excuse due to all the injuries regardless of his love for Robert or his questionable rotations.

[Basketball Nate]

Re-read what I said, and you'll notice that I said he'll get a pass because of the injuries... NOT because of his contract alone. Here I'll help...

My point all along hasn't changed... whether I, or you or anybody want Monty gone or not is irrelevant. He's gonna get a pass for this season because of the injuries (and his shiny new contract). Ever since CP3 and DW left he's had an excuse, and this season he's had more of an excuse due to all the injuries regardless of his love for Robert or his questionable rotations.

All of this is your assumption though. Unless you started calling shots for the team and we just don't know about it?

[PolishFan]

I was answering a question... and you (along with everybody else whining about Williams) continue to vent the same thing every time this ridiculous thread is bumped. We get it. Monty loves Roberts. he has terrible rotations. You hate him because he wears fl suits. Whatever. This time next year... you'll still be ********* and moaning about the same thing, and this thread will be on page 107.

don't read this thread then

[Hercule]

regardless of how you may see this thread, it is still a discussion, this is still a forum, and if he wants to respond to all the repeated monty complaints with his repeated answer he can. If everyone is going to come to this thread to post the same crap over and over again why is it trolling if he responds in kind? I think if anything all the "omg I'm so tired of Monty, Gordon for expirings and sign Karl? Why do we play roberts?" etc etc posts are much closer to trolling than anything DroopyDawg has said, at least a dissenting voice adds something to discussion instead of having a whole thread of literally *****ing

Well yeah, I can't stop him from posting.

I have to disagree about it being a dissenting voice. He's not necessarily saying that Monty's any good, he just keeps saying that he won't get fired, for a number of reasons. That does nothing to contribute to the discussion, it just annoys people.

And no, complaining is not trolling, it's venting. The title of this thread is "the official fire Monty thread," so what kind of things would you expect to be in there?

And it's trolling because he's the one seeking people out, again and again. He is the one who keeps coming to a Fire Monty thread and saying he won't be fired. Maybe he thinks he's battling back the tide or something, but he's not.

I know Droopy's not a troll, it's just this one thing he's been doing that doesn't make sense to me.

[Hercule]

I was answering a question... and you (along with everybody else whining about Williams) continue to vent the same thing every time this ridiculous thread is bumped. We get it. Monty loves Roberts. he has terrible rotations. You hate him because he wears fl suits. Whatever. This time next year... you'll still be ********* and moaning about the same thing, and this thread will be on page 107.

And I have to ask why that makes any difference to you. Why do you care how big this thread is? No one's making you open it.

I think the real reason you keep posting that Monty will stay, over and over again, and the only one that really makes sense, is because you want us all to remember you said it, so you can have an "I told you so" moment.

If it's not that, then you're really just wasting your time telling people, in a rant thread, that their frustration doesn't matter as he'll be back anyway. Multiple times.

I don't want to be a **** here, but I had to say something. If the people want to complain every week, let them do it in this thread. At least there's only the one big one at the moment.

[kclaboy504]

Re-read what I said, and you'll notice that I said he'll get a pass because of the injuries... NOT because of his contract alone. Here I'll help...

Point is this all your opinion and you word it to make it seem dell is your brother and you have all the correct info.

[kclaboy504]

Again... if holding on to this helps you sleep at night... then I'm all for it bruh. Do you.

Why bother even clicking your mouse and coming into the thread if it's all the same moaning and whining? It's clearly a fire Monty thread and since u know what's already being said in it. Why waste your time??

[kclaboy504]

And I have to ask why that makes any difference to you. Why do you care how big this thread is? No one's making you open it.

I think the real reason you keep posting that Monty will stay, over and over again, and the only one that really makes sense, is because you want us all to remember you said it, so you can have an "I told you so" moment.

If it's not that, then you're really just wasting your time telling people, in a rant thread, that their frustration doesn't matter as he'll be back anyway. Multiple times.

I don't want to be a **** here, but I had to say something. If the people want to complain every week, let them do it in this thread. At least there's only the one big one at the moment.

The funny thing is. Nobody in here is claiming that we will win fact fire him. So, there is no I told you so moment. He is the only one claiming to know what will happen.

[Basketball Nate]

Jason Kidd is a better NBA head coach than Monty Williams right now and Jason Kidd came in with no coaching experience. Monty Williams is the most overrated coach in the NBA. He can only ride Gregg Poppovich's coattails for so long until his coaching record eventually has to speak for itself.

[tthier2]

Jason Kidd is a better NBA head coach than Monty Williams right now and Jason Kidd came in with no coaching experience. Monty Williams is the most overrated coach in the NBA. He can only ride Gregg Poppovich's coattails for so long until his coaching record eventually has to speak for itself.

Yeah and to think Jason Kidd was considered to be a big mistake early on, he seems light years ahead of Monty now.

[Eman5805]

Can we still say he's a developer? Excellent at getting players to improve in the offseason? Or no, does he do no right, now?

Are we allowed to say he does anything well at all that isn't a cute way of also insulting him?

[jgman]

Can we still say he's a developer? Excellent at getting players to improve in the offseason? Or no, does he do no right, now?

Are we allowed to say he does anything well at all that isn't a cute way of also insulting him?

nope, only bashing rotations allowed here

[kdalw1]

The Clippers game showed that Monty has zero motivational skills. A good coach would never allow his team to get humiliated like that. Its obvious the players have no respect for their coach. So either you overhaul the roster or hire a new coach. Fresh start. The second option seems easier than the first.

[FlyGirl]

The Clippers game showed that Monty has zero motivational skills. A good coach would never allow his team to get humiliated like that. Its obvious the players have no respect for their coach. So either you overhaul the roster or hire a new coach. Fresh start. The second option seems easier than the first.

I don't agree with this. There have been quite a few games where this team have been down big but fought back. They never appear to 'give up'. They were probably beat from the get go last night though. Just because people here don't have respect for him, let's not speak for the players because they usually always seem to play hard, win or lose. I know people are mad and don't like Monty or whatever but lets not act like we know what the players think of him.

[hagios]

The Clippers game showed that Monty has zero motivational skills. A good coach would never allow his team to get humiliated like that. Its obvious the players have no respect for their coach. So either you overhaul the roster or hire a new coach. Fresh start. The second option seems easier than the first.

I know. It's rough being a "fire Monty" guy these days. He goes and changes up the rotations and we still lose. Gotta find a new reason to blame him.

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[Basketball Nate]

Can we still say he's a developer? Excellent at getting players to improve in the offseason? Or no, does he do no right, now?

Are we allowed to say he does anything well at all that isn't a cute way of also insulting him?

Austin Rivers, Darius Miller, and Jeff Withey aren't developing.

Yeah and to think Jason Kidd was considered to be a big mistake early on, he seems light years ahead of Monty now.

People were 'kidding' themselves expecting greatness from him straight out the gate when never even coached before on any level. He was going to have to grow into becoming a great coach just like Doc Rivers and Marc Jackson had to do. But Monty Williams, he done had every opportunity without the expectations and everybody still trying to figure out what the hell is going on with this guy.