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Thread: Official Fire Monty Thread

  1. #926
    Several things to fairly criticize tonight. Monty's refusal to put Aminu at PF next to AD when Bonner is on the court is the biggest head scratcher to me.

    Pop made a move, Monty didn't adjust and that was a big reason for the loss IMO. But let's not act like the blame is 100% on him. A big part of it, but not all of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wuggie View Post
    I think Monty's in game decisions sometimes are based on his longterm plans of development, such as not letting younger players in crunch time because he's trying to teach them a thing or two about possibly the pecking order, building confidence and trust in certain players, or knowing things we don't know about players. I've seen Pop do similar things to show confidence in the system he's built based on the long term plan of things rather than to win a regular season game, I could be wrong but it seems like Monty's going for the same thing, he's looking at the bigger picture not just one game when he makes strange decisions that we don't understand but the players do.

    That would be nice if it were true. Unfortunately I don't think he has some master plan like that.

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    He's too stuck on rotation can't make adjustment and thinks to highly of Roberts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Several things to fairly criticize tonight. Monty's refusal to put Aminu at PF next to AD when Bonner is on the court is the biggest head scratcher to me.

    Pop made a move, Monty didn't adjust and that was a big reason for the loss IMO. But let's not act like the blame is 100% on him. A big part of it, but not all of it.


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    It allowed Pop to play 3 guards. Parker guarding Aminu is just hilarious. Trot our Morrow or Miller, and I bet Parker moves back to guarding the PG, and Mills stops harrasing our PGs from bringing the ball up the court, and we actually have potential to get the offense started before the shot clock hits 14.

    When Parker started to guard Aminu, I knew the game was over.

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    I wonder how the heck aminu can't exploit that matchup. Use a damn post...something!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgan View Post
    I wonder how the heck aminu can't exploit that matchup. Use a damn post...something!
    The coaching would say give the ball to Aminu in the post but Monty doesn't make adjustments.

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    We wouldn't want to risk this thread going to page 2 now would we? how is monty faring these days?

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    I can't stand watching the Monty's offense. Last night - they won but the offense never passed the ball more than 3 times in any 4th quarter possession. And AD got only 3 or 4 catches in the whole second half. That just ain't right.

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    i thought Monty was decent, idk if it was him or one of the assistants that drew up the screen plays but they worked pretty well. When roberts was subbed in for rivers during the last minutes it was for offense which roberts is better at than rivers. Rivers got subbed back in after a little while for the D. During the first three quarters there were a lot of open looks that werent passed to, not montys fault. Sure Monty could do better but we are still growing as a team and there is always growing pains(injuries). Tyreke was the poor one last night, the guy keeps driving and throwing up when he shouldve been kicking. Also imo Tyreke needs to attack earlier and not wait for the D to get set. Its been a hard season, roberts plays differently in the system than Jrues and the team is still trying to adapt. We still have a chance to make the playoffs. Just not a very big chance

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    I have always been of the opinion to keep same players and coach for years to develop chemistry and so on. But now I can't really stand nor defend Monty, he's such a scary ***** who shows no emotion on the sideline and has his 2 fetish players in Roberts and Stiemsma who play load of minutes no matter what.

    Last night against the Wolves Rivers was subbed off with 9 minutes remaining of the 2nd Q because he missed 1 shot under the rim? How many brick shots misses Roberts and how big of a black hole is he on D but even then he plays constantly? Back in the 4th Q, we made the comeback with RIVERS in the court, playing good D, stealing balls & scoring in the paint and making his FT's, yet Monty subs him for Roberts with 3 min left.

    And by the way, Withey not seeing minutes later on when he accumulated like 3 or 4 consecutive VERY good games? In detriment of one of the most passive, lowest IQ and retarded players in Stiemsma? Really coach?

    All this love fest with Roberts & Stiemsma also happened against Hawks, but I just didn't want to post. But now my madness with all that stuff is increasing each day more. Well, to be honest it's been happening the whole season.

    Get outta here *****!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by takezor View Post
    I have always been of the opinion to keep same players and coach for years to develop chemistry and so on. But now I can't really stand nor defend Monty, he's such a scary ***** who shows no emotion on the sideline.
    Do you want Monty to show emotion for your benefit or the teams? I'm confused.

    Monty spent plenty of time last night talking to refs about their terrible calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    Do you want Monty to show emotion for your benefit or the teams? I'm confused.

    Monty spent plenty of time last night talking to refs about their terrible calls.
    I'm not talking about yesterday, I'm talking for the whole season. Which benefit could I get from him showing or not showing any emotion? That made non sense at all.
    The point is referees have been pissing in their ears almost every single game this season but he would keep showing that blank face. I want our coach to have some balls and shout out the refs when it's so blatantly obvious that we are getting screwed. And again, I'm not talking about yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takezor View Post
    I have always been of the opinion to keep same players and coach for years to develop chemistry and so on. But now I can't really stand nor defend Monty, he's such a scary ***** who shows no emotion on the sideline.
    Do you want Monty to show emotion for your benefit or the teams? I'm confused.

    Monty spent plenty of time last night talking to refs about their terrible calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takezor View Post
    I'm not talking about yesterday, I'm talking for the whole season. Which benefit could I get from him showing or not showing any emotion? That made non sense at all.
    The point is referees have been pissing in their ears almost every single game this season but he would keep showing that blank face. I want our coach to have some balls and shout out the refs when it's so blatantly obvious that we are getting screwed. And again, I'm not talking about yesterday.
    I mentioned this in another post and I'm not sure if it was noticeable on TV but Monty was very active in talking to the refs last night and on the call where Aminu fouled out he almost got T'ed up because he was so upset about the call. I had a very good view of it. I was maybe 30 feet from the bench.

    I don't understand how you can make this argument and disregard the most recent game. You can't make a grand sweeping statement about the entire season and then follow it up with, "This would be true if you ignore the games where it isn't."

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    Just looking at this game, why was Gordon so effective? because he either brought the ball up or got it with more than 12 seconds in the shot clock every time. he's so effective handling the ball - most of his bad shooting games he is left to try & create with the shot clock down because we lollygag the ball up the court. how a coach doesn't utilize this is beyond me

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD23nEG10 View Post


    Just looking at this game, why was Gordon so effective? because he either brought the ball up or got it with more than 12 seconds in the shot clock every time. he's so effective handling the ball - most of his bad shooting games he is left to try & create with the shot clock down because we lollygag the ball up the court. how a coach doesn't utilize this is beyond me
    I've said time and time again that he and Jrue should have taken turns bringing the ball up the court. I guarantee you our offensive output would have greatly increased; notice how he and Roberts share duties- he succeeds. Monty needs to freakin utilize this, but he is too hellbent on having that "true PG."

  17. #942
    I don't find Gordon's ball handling to be that good. He constantly loses control off the ball. Gordon should be utilized in the PnR and spot up shooter. He's off the dribble shooting is bad, and his driving to the basket isn't that good either since he can't get FTs.

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    so how about this nets game?
    never assume

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Monty is a great coach who is teaching our players all sorts of neet stuff. Were so lucky to have such a captain at the helm. Fall in line boys, we should be greatful for these performances. You can't get fries, but you can take comfort in knowing we are losing the right way.
    Stop being a Monty alpologist.

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    What do you do when even Davis's 24 points aren't enough to make you forget how much you dislike Monty's personnel decisions and game mismanagement?

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    I wish i could get a job as nba coach and then have many of my players injured so noone would fire cause you know there were so many injuries

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    monty needs to get mo cheek'd
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    Monty be looking lost on the sideline

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    Can anyone defend the way Monty is handling Evans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar View Post
    Can anyone defend the way Monty is handling Evans?
    Seems like when he's done it to other players in the past, it's worked. We will see...

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