In Defense of Monty - A Theory

[kclaboy504]

and he had the worst record during our CP3 playoff run here.

Yea I'll never forget that game 7 vs the spurs in the 2nd rd. dam that felt great man. I just want a bonafide playoff contender man. The nba playoffs are intense!!!!!

[RaisingTheBar]

I just don't think a Coach is going to sway the tide, and it's pathetic to go begging to be in the ASG or to have one of your players be in the ASG. I think he gets pick anyway because it's in New Orleans.

Who is begging? Again I think some of us are just confused as to why he wouldn't try to help his player, or anything. Nothing to do with thinking he will sway the tide.

[Inner_GI]

and he had the worst record during our CP3 playoff run here.

You mean when Monty had Omeka instead of Chandler and Carl Landry instead of David West (Because of injury). Ah okay. cool.

[kclaboy504]

I think Monty could of said something along the lines of ",yea Anthony has def an all star type of year but I don't decide if he goes or not we can leave that up to the other coaches" just something promoting his guy. But I'm not upset he didn't. Doesn't really matter anyway.

[Inner_GI]

Who is begging? Again I think some of us are just confused as to why he wouldn't try to help his player, or anything. Nothing to do with thinking he will sway the tide.

HOW DOES IT HELP?!?!!? Seriously... lol

[RaisingTheBar]

Yea I'll never forget that game 7 vs the spurs in the 2nd rd. dam that felt great man. I just want a bonafide playoff contender man. The nba playoffs are intense!!!!!

Jannero fn Pargo.

[RaisingTheBar]

HOW DOES IT HELP?!?!!? Seriously... lol

How does it hurt, seriously? And again for the 3rd or 4th time now, no one cares if it would or would not help, it's the fact that he wouldn't try.

[504ByrdGang]

Even Zach Lowe see this teams schemes are a mess and it come from coaching not players stop giving that man excuses

@theharryshearer Yup. Lots of things, on both ends, need some re-designing. Also: what an honor getting a tweet question from you.

— Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) January 22, 2014

[kclaboy504]

You mean when Monty had Omeka instead of Chandler and Carl Landry instead of David West (Because of injury). Ah okay. cool.

There was no drop off from west to Landry. Tbh Landry stepped up and handled his business and Okafor was solid man. Chandler avg 11-11 while Okafor avg 10-10. From top to bottom Monty had the much better roster.

[RaisingTheBar]

You mean when Monty had Omeka instead of Chandler and Carl Landry instead of David West (Because of injury). Ah okay. cool.

David West played 70 games that year. Are you really trying to play the injury card with that? By that token it's even worse now for Monty, He had Chris Paul for 80 games, the year before CP3 missed half the season.....still had the worse record.

[JJackisangry]

Monty isn't the sole cause of our failures, but he is definately a factor. I can understand what Monty is think with his defensive scheme: he wants to utilize his players to their fullest capacity. The problem with that: I'm not sure we have the personnel to defend his way quite yet. The areas where Monty grinds my gears: rotations, game management, and offensive production. Now that everyone is injured, we can't fairly evaluate him and it sucks. From what I saw though, we really struggled to build any chemistry on offense. The ball didn't move, players were running like headless chickens, and our shot selection was abysmal. Is that Monty's fault? I cannot say for sure, but having seen him here for four years I would not be surprised if he was a culprit.

Side note: Balls- your sig is so funny. All I have to say is it made me giggle like a school girl.

[Inner_GI]

David West played 70 games that year. Are you really trying to play the injury card with that? By that token it's even worse now for Monty, He had Chris Paul for 80 games, the year before CP3 missed half the season.....still had the worse record.

You pointed out the Playoff record. I pointed out that West and Chandler were missing from the playoff run that year. That's all I said.

[FlyGirl]

How is going to an all star game bigger than the team's accomplishments? The NBA gets around 4 off days, it's not like him being there is going to affect the Pelicans in any way. The team this year is a huge disappointment, why wouldn't a coach want to do everything they could to get their star player some recognition he deserves (not to mention the experience of being around the best in the league). It's the fact that he wouldn't even try to help is the issue.

If Monty isn't going to have his player's back why would they have his? No one knows ADs feelings but what if this really meant a lot to him? It's a shame his coach wouldn't do anything.

I thought sure I heard Hale say last night or maybe it was the game before that Monty was going to get on the phone to talk up AD to other coaches. Is that what you all are talking about? Monty says AD deserves to at least be a backup so why wouldn't he make mention of him to other coaches? I thought that's what I heard her say. Maybe not though.

[RaisingTheBar]

You pointed out the Playoff record. I pointed out that West and Chandler were missing from the playoff run that year. That's all I said.

.....No I didn't.

[kclaboy504]

Monty Williams 46-36 8 seed 1st rd lose in 6 games
Chris Paul-
David west-
Trevor ariza
Carl Landry-
Emeka Okafor
Marcus Thornton
Peja stojakovich
Jason smith
Aaron gray
Willie green
Quincy pondexter

TRUMPS (roster wise)

Byron Scott 56-26 1st place division #2 seed 2nd rd playoffs lose in 7 games
Chris Paul
David west
Tyson chandler
Peja stojakovich
Bonzi wells
Janeiro pargo
Morris Peterson
Bobby Jackson
Rasual butler
Melvin ely
Julian wright
Hilton Armstrong

Monty has proved nothing since he's been year and accomplished nothing.

[RaisingTheBar]

Ahhh I see where the misinterpretation was. "CP3 playoff run" != W/L record during the playoffs.

I was referring to the time span Chris Paul was here where we were in the playoffs.

[Inner_GI]

.....No I didn't.

and he had the worst record during our CP3 playoff run here.

???

[kclaboy504]

You pointed out the Playoff record. I pointed out that West and Chandler were missing from the playoff run that year. That's all I said.

Minus what u pointed out it's still more impressive what Scott did in the reg season and playoffs. Monty had a lot of nice pieces to work with Scott had a joke of a roster compared to what Monty had.

[WhoDatPelican]

[PowerPel]

Yes, I read a lot of the chatter on Rita months ago, but not being able to verify (Obviously), I just took it with a grain of salt. If true, it may be a blessing, I have no way of knowing for sure, but in my limited experience with that end of it, there was something I never liked or trusted about the Saints being run by her.

Agree. Putting Rita in control would be like putting Chad Shinn in control of the franchise. I have to wonder about something though

[FlyGirl]

Okay nevermind, I see in an article he said he wouldn't be calling coaches. I must have heard Hale say something else then.

[Inner_GI]

Minus what u pointed out it's still more impressive what Scott did in the reg season and playoffs. Monty had a lot of nice pieces to work with Scott had a joke of a roster compared to what Monty had.

Oh I agree, but there are other factors that needed to be considered. Was just pointing them out.

[RaisingTheBar]

I thought sure I heard Hale say last night or maybe it was the game before that Monty was going to get on the phone to talk up AD to other coaches. Is that what you all are talking about? Monty says AD deserves to at least be a backup so why wouldn't he make mention of him to other coaches? I thought that's what I heard her say. Maybe not though.

We all, at least I am, referring to the post on page 3 that said it was reported "Monty will not campaign to get Davis in the All-Star Game"

[RaisingTheBar]

???

Please read the post right above this.

[FlyGirl]

We all, at least I am, referring to the post on page 3 that said it was reported "Monty will not campaign to get Davis in the All-Star Game"

Okay RTB, I gotcha.