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    Davis-35 minutes
    Ryno-30
    Smith- 20

    Do any of these look unreasonable for next season? You know how many minutes are left if these guys get these minutes?

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    Lopez is not a guy that we need to hang onto at all costs. With that room level exception, you can get a perfectly fine 4th big to give you 12-15 minutes a night.
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    Just links would have sufficed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Davis-35 minutes
    Ryno-30
    Smith- 20

    Do any of these look unreasonable for next season? You know how many minutes are left if these guys get these minutes?

    11.

    Lopez is not a guy that we need to hang onto at all costs. With that room level exception, you can get a perfectly fine 4th big to give you 12-15 minutes a night.
    I think I would rather have Lopez in the 20-23 minutes and Smith in the 10-15 minutes a night category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Davis-35 minutes
    Ryno-30
    Smith- 20

    Do any of these look unreasonable for next season? You know how many minutes are left if these guys get these minutes?

    11.

    Lopez is not a guy that we need to hang onto at all costs. With that room level exception, you can get a perfectly fine 4th big to give you 12-15 minutes a night.
    You are expecting Davis Ryno and Smith to play in 82 games. That is a pretty bad assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Davis-35 minutes
    Ryno-30
    Smith- 20

    Do any of these look unreasonable for next season? You know how many minutes are left if these guys get these minutes?

    11.

    Lopez is not a guy that we need to hang onto at all costs. With that room level exception, you can get a perfectly fine 4th big to give you 12-15 minutes a night.
    I agree. Lopez is not worth losing Evans or Iggy long-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Davis-35 minutes
    Ryno-30
    Smith- 20

    Do any of these look unreasonable for next season? You know how many minutes are left if these guys get these minutes?

    11.

    Lopez is not a guy that we need to hang onto at all costs. With that room level exception, you can get a perfectly fine 4th big to give you 12-15 minutes a night.

    Good post MM, I've been screaming this exact sentiment over the past 2-3 days. I think Davis plays 36-38, Anderson 30-32, Smith 20-22, so that leaves 4-10 min for a minimum salary guy. I see absolutely no reason to throw big $$$ at a Center in FA or through a S&T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    Good post MM, I've been screaming this exact sentiment over the past 2-3 days. I think Davis plays 36-38, Anderson 30-32, Smith 20-22, so that leaves 4-10 min for a minimum salary guy. I see absolutely no reason to throw big $$$ at a Center in FA or through a S&T.
    So essentially you guys are saying that after tip-off, the conventional "who's the PF and who's the C" goes out the door? Because Davis and Ryno would have to be on the floor a lot together.
    Wherehappens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    So essentially you guys are saying that after tip-off, the conventional "who's the PF and who's the C" goes out the door? Because Davis and Ryno would have to be on the floor a lot together.
    They will be regardless. Davis and Anderson will be finishing games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Honestly, it is much easier for me to get excited about Martin than Evans, especially if contract is 3 years, around 25 million versus Tyreke at 4 for 44.

    Martin was very efficient last season and provides the spacing we need for Jrue and AD.

    Move Gordon to a team with cap space, sign Martin and Iggy, and I am good to go
    i just don't understand why we would even go after martin...he is injury prone too!!!! and doesn't play defense!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicans78 View Post
    I agree. Lopez is not worth losing Evans or Iggy long-term.
    ^ this right here! You can't pass up potential like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    So essentially you guys are saying that after tip-off, the conventional "who's the PF and who's the C" goes out the door? Because Davis and Ryno would have to be on the floor a lot together.
    Smith too. Smith would play almost exclusively at center.

    And yes, again, I look at guys who play the center position and I can't find many that terrify me. Not enough to lose out on a very good wing player to keep Lopez as opposed to signing, say, Dalmbert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    So essentially you guys are saying that after tip-off, the conventional "who's the PF and who's the C" goes out the door? Because Davis and Ryno would have to be on the floor a lot together.
    Yes, we'll have problems when facing Howard, Hibbert, and?????? I can't think of many Centers we would have a problem with.

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    AD, Ryno, Smith, Dalembert, and bring back Amundson on another minimum deal.

    I don't think that front line gets demolished. And I dont think Lopez over Dalembert is such a big improvement that I lose a wing player for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    Yes, we'll have problems when facing Howard, Hibbert, and?????? I can't think of many Centers we would have a problem with.
    Pekovic, thats about it though.

    "I don't know if people know — I dislocated my pinkie finger. And [Tyreke] told me, 'You wanna go home or you wanna be here?' I want to be here. And he said, 'All right, then go tape it up and let's play. Let's go. We not stoppin' at no stores. Straight gas. That's what we do, just keep going.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    Yes, we'll have problems when facing Howard, Hibbert, and?????? I can't think of many Centers we would have a problem with.
    Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard and Marc Gasol just in our division alone. It's a risky proposition for sure. You have to be able to match up. This is all good and great for the regular season, but if we don't have a big come playoff time, we're going to be hurting.

    Shoot, without the Bynum/Okafor mismatch the last time we were in the playoffs, I think we take out the Lakers.

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    If Dalembert signs here for that 2 year 6 million deal you mentioned on the podcast, I'd be ecstatic. He's a total steal at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard and Marc Gasol just in our division alone. It's a risky proposition for sure. You have to be able to match up. This is all good and great for the regular season, but if we don't have a big come playoff time, we're going to be hurting.

    Shoot, without the Bynum/Okafor mismatch the last time we were in the playoffs, I think we take out the Lakers.
    Gasol is a big man, but he kills you more from the high post than the low and Duncan is gone in 2 years, max.

    Per Howard, I would actually prefer letting him think he has the mismatch in the post and have his team feed him at the expense of ball movement and pick and rolls.

    Go to work down low all day Dwight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee-Fense View Post
    If Dalembert signs here for that 2 year 6 million deal you mentioned on the podcast, I'd be ecstatic. He's a total steal at that price.
    Can you imagine:

    Jrue
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    Dalembert

    What a roster turnaround Wow

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    Hibbert and Howard will have a hard time matching up with Ant and Ryno.

    That's what I love about what the Pelicans are potentially doing with Tyreke, Jrue, and Iggy. What if you frontcourt is where you get spacing from and not your backcourt? Sound familiar? See the 2 time defending champion Miami Heat. Spacing coming from the backcourt was a concern with James and Wade on wing, but Mario, like Jrue, can knock down outside shots, and the Pelicans also have Ryno in a Mike Miller like role with AD being a non traditional C/PF like Bosh. All we need is cheap 3-point shooters like potentially Copeland to mix in the off the bench and we're good.

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    I would keep Lopez rather than dump him to overpay Evans. I am not convinced Evans at the 3 works well enough to overpay. Lopez is a big body and still young (just turned 25). Dalembert is 32 and a shell of his former self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    So essentially you guys are saying that after tip-off, the conventional "who's the PF and who's the C" goes out the door? Because Davis and Ryno would have to be on the floor a lot together.
    All of this is fine during the regular season; but the playoffs is another story.

    It is a virtual lock for Howard to stay in WC with high probability of him landing in Houston, that's in our division.
    The twin towers in Mephis may lose Randolph, but you still have Gasol. Another playoff lock in our division.
    Warriors have Bogut, who they will keep under heavy wraps untill playoff time. Team can now be consided to have year-to-year strong playoff chances.
    Pekovic looks to be very likely staying in the west with the Trailblazers and Wolves being primary suitors. Strong chance either team is in playoffs as 8th seed.


    That's as hypothetical as I will get, but that's 4 out of your 7 playoff opponents who will posses centers that we will have no consistent answer to. And that's not counting McGee in Denver, the possibility of Bynum returning to LA if they loose Howard, and any possible transconference deals. Lopez may be just enough, but I'm not 100% sold on him vs those guys. Particularly when we are defending.
    Jrue dat

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Gasol is a big man, but he kills you more from the high post than the low and Duncan is gone in 2 years, max.

    Per Howard, I would actually prefer letting him think he has the mismatch in the post and have his team feed him at the expense of ball movement and pick and rolls.

    Go to work down low all day Dwight!
    And I don't mind Davis on Duncan. I just don't like the idea of knowingly building a team that is going to be at a disadvantage at times. It's one thing to not be able to find a quality big body. It's a whole other to knowingly cut one on a good contract.

    I'm torn. I'm not saying I don't hear what ya'll are saying. If dumping Lopez means getting Iggy, I'm going to be on board. I just wish there was another way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smow- View Post
    All of this is fine during the regular season; but the playoffs is another story.

    It is a virtual lock for Howard to stay in WC with high probability of him landing in Houston, that's in our division.
    The twin towers in Mephis may lose Randolph, but you still have Gasol. Another playoff lock in our division.
    Warriors have Bogut, who they will keep under heavy wraps untill playoff time. Team can now be consided to have year-to-year strong playoff chances.
    Pekovic looks to be very likely staying in the west with the Trailblazers and Wolves being primary suitors. Strong chance either team is in playoffs as 8th seed.


    That's as hypothetical as I will get, but that's 4 out of your 7 playoff opponents who will posses centers that we will have no consistent answer to. And that's not counting McGee in Denver, the possibility of Bynum returning to LA if they loose Howard, and any possible transconference deals. Lopez may be just enough, but I'm not 100% sold on him vs those guys. Particularly when we are defending.
    Please explain this one

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    Bynum is done. He has little future left in this league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    And I don't mind Davis on Duncan. I just don't like the idea of knowingly building a team that is going to be at a disadvantage at times. It's one thing to not be able to find a quality big body. It's a whole other to knowingly cut one on a good contract.

    I'm torn. I'm not saying I don't hear what ya'll are saying. If dumping Lopez means getting Iggy, I'm going to be on board. I just wish there was another way.
    There is another way.. Dumping GV and declining a bunch of rookie deals (LT and such)

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