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    Quote Originally Posted by AD23forMVP View Post
    You win some and you lose some. I'm 100% sure Monty and company would take Brewer over Aminu every day of the week.

    Though admittedly Brewer wouldn't be my first choice.
    His defense isn't as good as Aminu, especially the rebounding. Honestly, I would take Aminu since he's much younger.

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    They'll still have Parker, Ginobili, Stephen Jackson, Danny Green, 3pt shooters Gary Neal and Matt Bonner, Splitter. I just hope the Hornets don't go in thinking it's an instant win because Pop, Duncan and Leonard aren't there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornets78 View Post
    His defense isn't as good as Aminu, especially the rebounding. Honestly, I would take Aminu since he's much younger.
    I agree 100%. Brewer isn't that good and doesn't bring the things that Aminu brings. I also think we can resign Aminu and another guy who could balance him out offensively. That is the best route to take as the options out there will not be ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornets78 View Post
    His defense isn't as good as Aminu, especially the rebounding. Honestly, I would take Aminu since he's much younger.
    0.85 points to 0.88 points.

    0.68 points in iso situations to 0.98 points in iso situations.

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    And there is no way we are being bias here with regard to Aminu vs. Brewer?

    My question to you: All 30 GM's have a choice- Aminu or Brewer at the same price for the next 3 years. How do you think the vote goes down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD23forMVP View Post
    0.85 points to 0.88 points.

    0.68 points in iso situations to 0.98 points in iso situations.
    How much of that is coming against starting caliber forwards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    And there is no way we are being bias here with regard to Aminu vs. Brewer?

    My question to you: All 30 GM's have a choice- Aminu or Brewer at the same price for the next 3 years. How do you think the vote goes down?
    Neither. None of them are long term solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    And there is no way we are being bias here with regard to Aminu vs. Brewer?

    My question to you: All 30 GM's have a choice- Aminu or Brewer at the same price for the next 3 years. How do you think the vote goes down?
    20-10 in favor of Brewer. I'm just guessing that 10 of them will like the freak athletic ability of Aminu and his young age.

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    No TD, Leonard and Coach Pop. We could take this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD23forMVP View Post
    0.85 points to 0.88 points.

    0.68 points in iso situations to 0.98 points in iso situations.
    Gonna need more context for those stats. Defensive stats are highly affected by team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
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    San Antonio announce Tim Duncan and Kawhi Leonard both out tonight with knee issues but that @manuginobili is back after four-game absence
    Hope the Hornets can take advantage of that and win another game against the Spurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibner View Post
    Gonna need more context for those stats. Defensive stats are highly affected by team.
    Especially if Brewer is playing half of his minutes against backups.

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    I have been a huge Aminu fan these past few weeks, but one thing that doesnt show up in his box scores that you have to factor in is how much he shrinks the space for other players because teams just cheat off him so much.

    Tonight, when the Hornets are in the half court, just watch Aminu's man. There is zero respect for his perimeter game and that forces the other guys to play 4-on-5. Trust me, once the playoffs come, that will go up to another level and teams will force Aminu to beat them from there.

    And of course it is at this point we always hear that "He is still young and he can develop the jumper." But c'mon, let's be real. Dell can't operate based on hope, he has to deal with the real world, the one in which Aminu will likely always be an offensive liability. Long term, he is a great backup or maybe a starter if you have 4 offensive studs who can still succeed playing 4 on 5, but that is a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    I have been a huge Aminu fan these past few weeks, but one thing that doesnt show up in his box scores that you have to factor in is how much he shrinks the space for other players because teams just cheat off him so much.

    Tonight, when the Hornets are in the half court, just watch Aminu's man. There is zero respect for his perimeter game and that forces the other guys to play 4-on-5. Trust me, once the playoffs come, that will go up to another level and teams will force Aminu to beat them from there.

    And of course it is at this point we always hear that "He is still young and he can develop the jumper." But c'mon, let's be real. Dell can't operate based on hope, he has to deal with the real world, the one in which Aminu will likely always be an offensive liability. Long term, he is a great backup or maybe a starter if you have 4 offensive studs who can still succeed playing 4 on 5, but that is a stretch.
    Why does it matter? He's a back up playing a starting role. With Brewer, it's the same deal.. just different deficiencies. Both are career backups. None are viable solutions. If I had to choose between the two, I'd choose the cheaper option and find a viable solution.

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    Did he just say the Spurs are on a 14 game home winning streak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola Hornet View Post
    Why does it matter? He's a back up playing a starting role. With Brewer, it's the same deal.. just different deficiencies. Both are career backups. None are viable solutions. If I had to choose between the two, I'd choose the cheaper option and find a viable solution.
    I am inclined to agree with you. Both are, ideally, backups. But with Anthony Davis on your team, it would be easier to hide Brewer's rebounding deficincies than Aminu's offensive problems IMO. So if I HAD to choose one, I would take Brewer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinny6420 View Post
    I may be the only person, but I love how Aminu has been playing recently
    You are not the only one. His play has been great, just like Vasquez.

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    I'd rather Brandon Jennings over any of the above mentioned tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD23forMVP View Post
    I'd rather Brandon Jennings over any of the above mentioned tbh.
    And to me, if you get Jennings, then you can get away with Aminu at SF. Two guards who can create for themselves and others no matter who is guarding them, a 3pt mad bomber, and a guy who will become the best rim runner in the game in Davis. With those 4, you can get by with Aminu's lack of half court offense. That is my dream team (that is realistic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    I am inclined to agree with you. Both are, ideally, backups. But with Anthony Davis on your team, it would be easier to hide Brewer's rebounding deficincies than Aminu's offensive problems IMO. So if I HAD to choose one, I would take Brewer
    But with Gordon and Robin Lopez (or Jason Smith) also getting major minutes, how much does Brewer add to that problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    And to me, if you get Jennings, then you can get away with Aminu at SF. Two guards who can create for themselves and others no matter who is guarding them, a 3pt mad bomber, and a guy who will become the best rim runner in the game in Davis. With those 4, you can get by with Aminu's lack of half court offense. That is my dream team (that is realistic)
    I've been envisioning the same team with Brewer over Aminu for the same reason you indicated above---floor spacing. I also have little faith that Aminu can ever develop a respectable jumper, whether it be a mid-range jumper or a long-range jumper. But you think a Jennings could patch that up. Interesting opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunnyB View Post
    Did he just say the Spurs are on a 14 game home winning streak?
    That's correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee-Fense View Post
    But with Gordon and Robin Lopez (or Jason Smith) also getting major minutes, how much does Brewer add to that problem?
    Agreed- which is why Lopez cant be the long term starter at C. It is Ryno and AD up front and Davis needs to become a rebounder like Dwight was in his prime to get by with below average defensive rebounders like Anderson and Gordon (and Brewer in this case). But again, Brewer has been asked to play a lot of SG over his career, hasn't been asked to crash the boards, so we don't know for sure that he isn't capable. He is 6'9", super long, and athletic. He should at least be able to be average if it was asked of him by Monty

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    Is davis playing?

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    Gordon's shot is becoming like it used to be, figured it was just rust

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