Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

But I suppose since everyone wanted to try Rubio,

Rondo is basically a Rubio-lite on a shorter, cheaper contract.

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That Eurotrash ain't on my want list.

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

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Or does anyone on this forum work? Although I hit refreash at least every three minutes or so. It'll be such a buzz kill if nothing happens with any of these scenarios.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

But I suppose since everyone wanted to try Rubio,

Rondo is basically a Rubio-lite on a shorter, cheaper contract.

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Exactly and has great relationship with Cousins and a bit more experience :)

Good article on Rondo from early in the playoffs this year:

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/inde...jon_rondo.html

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Should be Bledsoe or bust. Rondo gonna kill our spacing.

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3pt%
2016-17 Rondo .376, Bledsoe .335
2015-16 Rondo .365, Bledsoe .372

I am a huge fan of Rondo; he brings bbiq and leadership. The problem is Holiday at $26M per yr which places him behind Harden and DeRozan.

If it really will increase the odds of keeping Boogie then I go from an OK to a great!

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Originally Posted by Taker597

That Eurotrash ain't on my want list.

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We actually have dashcam footage of you telling officers how much you wanted Rubio.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Should be Bledsoe or bust. Rondo gonna kill our spacing.

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to be fair, Bledsoe isn't a great shooter either.

If Rondo is seen as a Tim Frazier replacement it's an upgrade, but like Frazier, Rondo would be better served coming off the bench.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

If Rondo is seen as a Tim Frazier replacement it's an upgrade, but like Frazier, Rondo would be better served coming off the bench.

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And Rondo will DEFINITELY be getting more money.

Utah has waived forward Boris Diaw ahead of guarantee date, league sources tell The Vertical.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 13, 2017

Diaw will be a good pick up 4 us as a back up big

Diaz an rondo would be upgrades overall

Story posting soon with @RamonaShelburne on ESPN: The Knicks have paused Carmelo Anthony trade talks with Houston and Cleveland.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 14, 2017

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Story posting soon with @RamonaShelburne on ESPN: The Knicks have paused Carmelo Anthony trade talks with Houston and Cleveland.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 14, 2017

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This might mean nothing moving on the Pelicans front anytime soon if that's a big domino folks are waiting for to fall.

ESPN Sources: Free agent Derrick Rose, Milwaukee Bucks continue dialogue. https://t.co/Ltb0RxIjYI

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) July 14, 2017

Im all in for Rondo and I was even before the free agency started.

Rondo
Holiday
Hill
Davis
Cousins

This is very good starting 5 and the thing I like the most out of it is that it goes opposite ways with the league trend. We cant beat Golden State at their game, let's create our own game with our super skilled big, 2 guards with a great feel for the game and an all around solid player on the wing.

Then we need some versatility from the bench. I like Crawford's profile, Moore is a great professional with a mature game. But then we are real thin. Diallo is still very raw and wild young (didn't like a couple things from him in summer league especially when he attempted to taunt John Collins), Cook and Jackson will battle for playing time but we can definitely grab someone up like Clark. Q-pon is an enigma. Ajinca has done his time.

Just adding Rondo makes this team great so I wish we sign him and then focus on upgrading the 3 or the bench.

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Originally Posted by Delko

Im all in for Rondo and I was even before the free agency started.

Rondo
Holiday
Hill
Davis
Cousins

This is very good starting 5 and the thing I like the most out of it is that it goes opposite ways with the league trend. We cant beat Golden State at their game, let's create our own game with our super skilled big, 2 guards with a great feel for the game and an all around solid player on the wing.

Then we need some versatility from the bench. I like Crawford's profile, Moore is a great professional with a mature game. But then we are real thin. Diallo is still very raw and wild young (didn't like a couple things from him in summer league especially when he attempted to taunt John Collins), Cook and Jackson will battle for playing time but we can definitely grab someone up like Clark. Q-pon is an enigma. Ajinca has done his time.

Just adding Rondo makes this team great so I wish we sign him and then focus on upgrading the 3 or the bench.

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I could get on board with this and it costs us nothing in terms of assets or long term flexibility.

Heres a sleeper 6'7 SG Can shoot, pass well, slash, good IQ & wants back to the NBA
https://youtu.be/ziNcMqc5trk Alexey Shved 28 years old (poor man Fournier)
https://youtu.be/i43aqQg9Hoc Euro

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Originally Posted by Delko

Im all in for Rondo and I was even before the free agency started.

Rondo
Holiday
Hill
Davis
Cousins

This is very good starting 5 and the thing I like the most out of it is that it goes opposite ways with the league trend. We cant beat Golden State at their game, let's create our own game with our super skilled big, 2 guards with a great feel for the game and an all around solid player on the wing.

Then we need some versatility from the bench. I like Crawford's profile, Moore is a great professional with a mature game. But then we are real thin. Diallo is still very raw and wild young (didn't like a couple things from him in summer league especially when he attempted to taunt John Collins), Cook and Jackson will battle for playing time but we can definitely grab someone up like Clark. Q-pon is an enigma. Ajinca has done his time.

Just adding Rondo makes this team great so I wish we sign him and then focus on upgrading the 3 or the bench.

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That's the thing that had me the most excited about picking up a second starting quality PG. We stagger them and Jrue as well as Boogie and AD and at no point in time (barring injuries) are we without a starting quality PG and a dominant game changing big on the court.

Instead of "OK, Jrue and AD need to rest. Time to trot out Ajinca, Frazier, and some bench guys" it's now "AD and Jrue are sitting, here are Boogie, Rondo, Crawford or Moore, and Cunningham or Diallo" or those guys with AD and Jrue. Makes it so much more moisture inducing.

Thinking like that even makes me like Ryno when I originally wanted to spew at that. Having our 2nd team be Rondo, Moore, Dante or Chiek, Ryno, and Boogie.....man....that sounds amazing for a 2nd unit. And then when Boogie and Rondo sit it would basically be our old starting lineup as our other backup unit. Lol.

Rondo can't close games? Close it with Jrue, Hill, Ryno, AD, and Boogie. Hrrrrng. That is light-years better than last season.

I just don't get how certain teams in this league, like the Rockets, get to force their bad contracts on other teams to acquire superstars. They should have to give up Gordon and Ariza to get Melo, instead their allowed to get rid of bad contract like Ryno, with the only value being a late pick 3 years from now to get back Carmelo Anthony. Like it should cost them a pick just to get rid of that contract. There's alot of unfairness in this league, I just feel like certain teams are playing by different rules at times.

Source says Jonathan Simmons signing is “imminent."

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 14, 2017

doesn't say with who though

Would you guys rather have Rose or Rondo? No fit or contract stuff, just in 2017 who would you prefer?

Rondo, I think.

Playoff experience and his game hasn't really been depleted. He always was a heady player who made great passes.

But Derrick Rose isn't a bad play now. Just not who he used to be.

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Source says Jonathan Simmons signing is “imminent."

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 14, 2017

doesn't say with who though

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He's resigning with San Antonio. New contract.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Would you guys rather have Rose or Rondo? No fit or contract stuff, just in 2017 who would you prefer?

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Rondo.

Rondo everyday.

Rose is a mediocrity without a calling card now. A mid to high volume mediocre scorer who is neither a good creater nor good defender nor shooter. Rondo on the other hand has strengths and weaknesses, but if you can use them correctly, his strengths are near the top of the league in those areas.

My free agent wish list would be:

PGs
1. Derrick Rose - not gonna happen and really wouldn't want it to. Not a good fit with Jrue I think.
2. Rajon Rondo - maybe so and I think I like it surprisingly lol
3. Ty Lawson - fall back if no Rondo hopefully
4. Ian Clark - interesting option and may be the best but I'm hoping Frank Jackson is better version
5. D Will - not interested in really, but if all else we could use a vet lol

Wings:
1. KCP - would be my dream pickup, but not happening
2. Jonathan Simmons - like his hustle, but could be a Pop flop elsewhere???
3. Gerald Henderson - wish he was a little bit taller and still a baller lol
4. Gerald Green - always wanted to add this guy on the cheap
5. Dante Cunningham - DC is solid and like his versatility to play the 3 & 4. Have about equal with the 2 higher guys.
**6. Michael Beasley - knew I would forget someone!! I'd take him. #'s 3-6 I have about even
7. Arron Afflalo - see Henderson, but shot it from 3 better than him this past season.
8. Anthony Morrow - old sniper comes back??
9. Monta Ellis - 6th man? Not good enough probably and not worth the headache
10. Tony Allen - love his D, but we need shooting!!
11. Shabazz Muhammed / Jason Terry / KJ McDaniels / Marcus Thornton - couldn't figure which one I liked more and Dell could find better elsewhere probably. Cause of age, KJ should be by himself probably. Terry can still let it fly, but he's so old lol. Added Muhammed too. Thornton probably shouldn't be no where near this list, but still have a soft spot for the former Tiger, Hornet, & BR native lol.

May have missed some players, but it is some serious slim pickings...

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Originally Posted by mikecia

Heres a sleeper 6'7 SG Can shoot, pass well, slash, good IQ & wants back to the NBA
https://youtu.be/ziNcMqc5trk Alexey Shved 28 years old (poor man Fournier)
https://youtu.be/i43aqQg9Hoc Euro

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Shved failed in the NBA. TBH it happens when a player is young.
He made his name in the Euroleague.

And was paid on the level of Teodosic.
So dont expect him coming cheap.

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Originally Posted by Delko

Im all in for Rondo and I was even before the free agency started.

Rondo
Holiday
Hill
Davis
Cousins

This is very good starting 5 and the thing I like the most out of it is that it goes opposite ways with the league trend. We cant beat Golden State at their game, let's create our own game with our super skilled big, 2 guards with a great feel for the game and an all around solid player on the wing.

Then we need some versatility from the bench. I like Crawford's profile, Moore is a great professional with a mature game. But then we are real thin. Diallo is still very raw and wild young (didn't like a couple things from him in summer league especially when he attempted to taunt John Collins), Cook and Jackson will battle for playing time but we can definitely grab someone up like Clark. Q-pon is an enigma. Ajinca has done his time.

Just adding Rondo makes this team great so I wish we sign him and then focus on upgrading the 3 or the bench.

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I agree with you

Rondo makes his teammates better more than any point guard we've been linked to

And that's just what we need right now. We have some heavy firepower already. This is a good signing

I would swap out Asiks contract with Rynos in a heartbeat. We would get a huge threat off the bench instead of someone who does nothing. Ryno is a great fit next to both AD and Cousins. Yes he is overpaid but Asik is one of the worst contracts in the NBA. Ryno will actually be moveable in a year when Asik will need a team making a very stupid decision to be moved. As Rynos contract gets shorter he becomes a valuable asset to some teams needing a big for the playoff stretch that can shoot 3s.

Did we do a thing yet?

No?

Demps sucks.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Did we do a thing yet?

No?

Demps sucks.

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lol

Clippers still engaged with Luc Mbah a Moute, but limitations on how far they can go financially to keep him, league sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 14, 2017

Nick Collison is re-signing with Oklahoma City on a 1-year deal to end 15-year career with Thunder franchise, sources tell The Vertical.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 14, 2017

Rondo / Jrue / Hill / AD / Boogie is a great line up, especially if Gentry sets up rotations with Jrue/Rondo and AD/Boogie where one of each pair is always on the floor. Because then we have very few minutes per game where we have more than 3 bench players on the court.

We could see lineups like Cook / Jrue / QPon / Cunningham / AD or Rondo / Moore / QPon / Diallo / Boogie... When those are our _worst_ lineups in a game? Yes, I will take that every day.

For better or worse, the Pelicans have to count on that buzzword from 2 years ago going into next season: CONTINUITY.

Remember how valuable we were told that was for teams with playoff aspirations?

FWIW, I think both Hill and Moore should improve going into year 2. Especially Hill. What he was doing in Indiana before joining the Pelicans wasn't exactly the same as getting an extra 15 mpg in a Gentry offense. An entire off season will not only benefit Boogie, AD, and Jrue -as most expect, but will benefit Hill and other players who need to step up.

I think at the midway point of the season, we'll think differently about Dell's 2017 off season, because we'll think much differently about his 2016 off season.

Could we just freaggin sign Gerald Green please.

Gimme something

Tbh this may come of pessimistic but if we sign rondo then our offense will struggle imo. Our two big men needed spacing and shooting to work, and this season is the most important one in franchise history. We HAVE to hit on everything right now, not no "maybes" or hopefully it will work type signings. If I'm Dell, I'll be even willing to trade two first rounders for Lin. It's obvious that he is not worth that, but this is a desperate season for everything involved. Screw PHX, they are not going to give us Bledsoe, throw the house for Lin, and DO NOT SETTLE for Rondo.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Tbh this may come of pessimistic but if we sign rondo then our offense will struggle imo. Our two big men needed spacing and shooting to work, and this season is the most important one in franchise history. We HAVE to hit on everything right now, not no "maybes" or hopefully it will work type signings. If I'm Dell, I'll be even willing to trade two first rounders for Lin. It's obvious that he is not worth that, but this is a desperate season for everything involved. Screw PHX, they are not going to give us Bledsoe, throw the house for Lin, and DO NOT SETTLE for Rondo.

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Our two big men can space and can shoot.

I think lack of preparation together was the worst thing

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

Could we just freaggin sign Gerald Green please.

Gimme something

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I wouldnt mind him

a lot of us seem to be forgetting/overlooking Darius Miller... maybe its just wishful thinking on my part, but I am looking forward to finding out if he actually has matured with his game...

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

a lot of us seem to be forgetting/overlooking Darius Miller... maybe its just wishful thinking on my part, but I am looking forward to finding out if he actually has matured with his game...

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Someone already said it but he could be a similar player to a healthy QPon

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

a lot of us seem to be forgetting/overlooking Darius Miller... maybe its just wishful thinking on my part, but I am looking forward to finding out if he actually has matured with his game...

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From his European highlights he looked pretty slow making moves, albeit a great shooter now. I think he'll be strictly a shooter in today's NBA

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Originally Posted by AusPel

From his European highlights he looked pretty slow making moves, albeit a great shooter now. I think he'll be strictly a shooter in today's NBA

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Yep. Plus they know the guy, his work ethic, etc. If we were going to give the BAE to a shooter like Gerald Green I'm actually more than fine with Miller on a minimum.

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

a lot of us seem to be forgetting/overlooking Darius Miller... maybe its just wishful thinking on my part, but I am looking forward to finding out if he actually has matured with his game...

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It's still not a certainty he even makes the team. Hopefully he can be similar to Crawford (i.e. unexpected bench spark plug).

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Originally Posted by AusPel

From his European highlights he looked pretty slow making moves, albeit a great shooter now. I think he'll be strictly a shooter in today's NBA

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My sleeper is Euro SG 6'7 Alexey Sheved https://youtu.be/ziNcMqc5trk Euro https://youtu.be/i43aqQg9Hoc

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Originally Posted by mikecia

My sleeper is Euro SG 6'7 Alexey Sheved https://youtu.be/ziNcMqc5trk Euro https://youtu.be/i43aqQg9Hoc

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Pass. He did nothing the first go-round in the NBA and will be 29 at the end of the year. Not sure he is worth the roster spot or anything about a non-guaranteed minimum tryout contract.

Spurs free agent Jonathon Simmons has agreed to a three-year deal with the Orlando Magic, league sources tell The Vertical.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 14, 2017

All guaranteed money for Jonathon Simmons's three-year deal in Orlando, per source (@wojespn first with agreement).

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 14, 2017