Don't know how you can assume anything when someone says it's a fluid situation.
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Don't know how you can assume anything when someone says it's a fluid situation.
RT @Brandon_Savoie: @Jrue_Holiday11 just wait until you start eating that New Orleans food!!
RT @RealHoopsChat: @Jrue_Holiday11 @dhruvsster Jrue, get a @pinkshotdogs if you're in LA!
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Means nothing but jrue post about LA few hours ago, not Sac
Jrue is RTing those guys, but the second one is talking about L.A. not La.
John Salmon, the agent for Knicks restricted free agent Chris Copeland, said he spoke with Pelicans general manager Dell Demps earlier this week but no offer was extended. Salmon said he doesn’t think the Pelicans are going to do anything else until Evans’ makes a decision.``We’ll see what happens, but they got to wait on Tyreke because they’ve already put out an offer sheet for him,’’ Salmon by telephone Wednesday.``They gave Tyreke a lot of money in his offer and I don't think they're going to do anything until he accepts or denies.'' New Orleans Times-Picayune
Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#ZyyjS8EhaQhFb9rU.99
not sure this was posted already but im sure we are gonna miss out on a bunch of players waiting for Tyreke lol
Interesting thing about all of these big money deals that these guys like AI, Josh Smith, and others are getting. Sure they are getting big money deals, but they are getting them from bad teams. The Kings, the Pistons, etc., these are all teams that aren't winning any time soon. But the comical bit is that they go back to their old teams asking for similar money and can't get it because their old team has money tied up in other guys that are helping them win now. They want to have their cake and eat it too, and it can't work like that.
Should be fun to see most of these guys turn down big money, or go to bad teams. It will be very telling.
Whose left as realistic options for us?
SG/SF
Corey Brewer, Earl Clark, Dorrell Wright, Chris Copeland, Matt Barnes, Kyle Korver, Gerald Henderson, Wesley Johnson, Austin Daye......Iggy(way too much lol)
C
Al Jefferson maybe
We can pull the offer just like the Kings did Iggy.
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Well I'm back and nothing new, sigh.
People need to realise that all those FAs that agree to a contract for now are not interested by the Pels in the first place (or Pels aren't interested).
It is pretty clear that Dell met/called the agents of all the FAs he is interested in and everyone knows we won't be able to sign anyone until the Reke situation and the Lopez situation are resolved. The last one has a "soft" deadline which ends friday so at least by waiting this WE we should have some insight.
For instance, it is pretty clear Copeland is intrigued by us as he has said several times he won't rush any decisions despite Pacers effort.
Maybe, but in reality, the FAs are not going to wait for us to get our house in order. If they get acceptable offers, they will move on. I just hope we have a realistic shot at Evans and are not being used by him and his agent as leverage to try and increase the value of a deal with Sacramento.
This seems to not have an end and it has only been for 2-3 days lol.
I bet his agent didn't know he was going to be in this much demand.
Not true in all cases. There are guys who are waiting for Dwight to make a decision before they make any decisions. It's a huge reason why bigs haven't been signing just yet.
As for a guy like Copeland, waiting is a good idea as he hasn't been offered anything too good to pass up and the Pelicans makes an attractive option due to the giant hole we have in the SF position.
There are a lot of variables that comes into play.
77 pages
We may pull the offer, trade for G Green and first rounder for lopez, and go after Asik and Parsons when Houston needs to sign DH and Jsmith and trade vasquez and indy first rounder.
afternoon dreaming
It's not as simple clearly but I'm pretty convinced that most of them could have waited until this WE easily if they wanted to. The only good reasons they have to move on are if the other teams ask for an urgent answer and has other FAs they are in discussion with or if they found the "perfect" team for them (which means they are not interested).
It's all about risk/reward ... if the risk is low and your agent has been contacted by several GMs that clearly has a need for your position they really aren't other reasons to not take the low risk path.
As for the Evans situation ... we are not waiting for Evans anymore but for Sac to decide if they are ready to sign him to a similar contract or if they want a S&T.
Honestly, I find that Evans have been pretty good with his stance until now. Using vague and unofficial source to imply that you are OK with whatever the guys who decides, well decides is how FAs in his position should do. He clearly likes our proposition (and seemingly don't mind staying) but understands he is in no position to make demands (something EG should have understood).
Fortunatly, Sac also can't do anything on the FA front until they decide too so they should not take too long ... but since it is Sac they might be delibirating until the 13th even if that means they lose on Vasquez or Lopez in a S&T.
There we go!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Stein
We made the offer on Monday. It's Wednesday, and a lot of indications have been we'll probably hear something soon. I'm sure if the Pelicans have a pressing need to move forward, Demps has conveyed it to Evans' agent. 3 days is forever to us since we want to hear something, but we're in no different boat as anyone talking to Howard, Josh Smith, Iggy or any of the other major free agents.
We can move forward just like anyone else can, if we tell Evans "we need an answer by XXX". Probably not worth it to do that, though, and all we've missed out on so far is the right for Minnesota to outbid us on K Mart and Budinger.
Story going online now w@GoodmanESPN: Sources say Kings RFA Tyreke Evans is ready for change of scenery and wants to wind up in New Orleans
— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) July 3, 2013
The question is though...will they match?
Question, last season we landed two RFA's, Anderson and Lopez, via a S&T. Is that a coincidence? Dell likes to complete trades to land RFA's?
So he's not gonna sign their counteroffer is basically what we know. Sign and match or sign and trade now.
So why do you think he had the change of heart guys? Do you think he felt disrespected by kings pursuit of iggy and so by pulling the iggy offer kings have now dissed 2 players? Though i guess they could still match i mean we all know how that part works, but i'm happy to hear this from him.
Man, this really must be how it was for Phoenix last year. We're at the "Gordon says his heart's in PHX" stage right now. Just get a S&T done!
If this is anything like Gordon saga Sac will match and end up keeping him lol
Sac would be down right retarded not to match or at least get a sign+trade for value