2014 Playoffs - Geaux CP3

Watching the spurs play ball is a thing of beauty. It really is.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Watching the spurs play ball is a thing of beauty. It really is.

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I'm so glad these two teams were the ones to make it out of the conference finals. The other two teams don't run an offense like the Spurs and Heat (or at all, really).

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Spurs better be happy LBJ left the game early. They were on the way to being down 0-1. Miami shouldn't be down about this loss and the Spurs shouldn't be excited about this win.

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

Spurs better be happy LBJ left the game early. They were on the way to being down 0-1. Miami shouldn't be down about this loss and the Spurs shouldn't be excited about this win.

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The flip side of the coin is the Spurs had 23 turn overs. As soon as they stopped shooting themselves in the foot they started winning. The LBJ going out thing sucked for Miami to keep up the scoring but I don't know that him being in the game would have been enough. The Spurs offense was just clicking as soon as they stopped throwing the ball into Miami's players hands.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

The flip side of the coin is the Spurs had 23 turn overs. As soon as they stopped shooting themselves in the foot they started winning. The LBJ going out thing sucked for Miami to keep up the scoring but I don't know that him being in the game would have been enough. The Spurs offense was just clicking as soon as they stopped throwing the ball into Miami's players hands.

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The flip of the flip is that when LBJ was in the game, he was leading the way on the defensive end which caused all of the to's. When LBJ went out, the defense left with him allowing the Spurs to get in a better rhythm.

i love van gundy as the announcer. he is definitely entertaining :)

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

The flip of the flip is that when LBJ was in the game, he was leading the way on the defensive end which caused all of the to's. When LBJ went out, the defense left with him allowing the Spurs to get in a better rhythm.

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Agreed. While it's apart if the game that guys come in and out due fatigue/injury. I'm not sure how anybody can argue losing the games best player down the stretch didn't put the Heat in a down right impossible position.

It would have been far more damaging if this happened in Miami. They can still split in San Antonio.

I don't think so. Most of those turnovers were mental errors. I don't think you can tie them to LeBron and the defense. Tons of cross court passes that were ill-advised. Pop is going to get on them about it. I don't expect 23 turnovers next game.

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

i love van gundy as the announcer. he is definitely entertaining :)

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My favorite quote of the night from SVG:
"If I may quote Charles Barkley, 'GINOOOOBLIIIII!!!'"

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Agreed. While it's apart if the game that guys come in and out due fatigue/injury. I'm not sure how anybody can argue losing the games best player down the stretch didn't put the Heat in a down right impossible position.

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Not arguing that. I'm saying even with LBJ in there the heat don't win it.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Not arguing that. I'm saying even with LBJ in there the heat don't win it.

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I disagree. The tide clearly changed when LeBron started struggling with the cramps. Not to say the Spurs can't win with a healthy LeBron on the court. I just don't know how you say for sure they do.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I disagree. The tide clearly changed when LeBron started struggling with the cramps. Not to say the Spurs can't win with a healthy LeBron on the court. I just don't know how you say for sure they do.

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With LeBron on the court they had already caught up. It was the 23 turnovers where they threw the ball away that was the issue. The Spurs missed 2 shots in the 4th. 2. The whole team.

LBJ there or not wasn't going to stop them from winning the game. It would have been closer, but Miami still loses the game.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

With LeBron on the court they had already caught up. It was the 23 turnovers where they threw the ball away that was the issue. The Spurs missed 2 shots in the 4th. 2. The whole team.

LBJ there or not wasn't going to stop them from winning the game. It would have been closer, but Miami still loses the game.

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I think you misread my post. I said when he started dealing with the cramps not when he was sidelined by them.

Differences of opinion. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I think you misread my post. I said when he started dealing with the cramps not when he was sidelined by them.

Differences of opinion. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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Has nothing to do with The Spurs getting hot and going 14/16 and 6/6 from 3 in the 4th. LeBron played almost 5 minutes in the 4th before the cramps and didn't stop them.

Like I said. LeBron or no LeBron wouldn't matter once the other team got that hot.

I agree once LeBron got the cramps the Heat had no chance. But I just happen to believe they had no chance at all even with him with that shooting.

I doubt the Spurs can stay that hot going forward though.

The Heat play tough D when LeBron is in. But it isn't like LeBron had a dozen steals. A lot of the Spurs turnovers were just bad basketball plays. Terrible passes. Dribbling into trouble.

Once they cleared them up and found their stroke from deep? Game was done. Irrelevant to speculate. We're gonna get game two, preferably with a working A/C. And we can pick up the debate then.

The thing about 3pt defense is that 3pt% defense is largely random between teams, but the better defensive teams just allow fewer attempts. My best guess as to why is because players generally won't shoot a 3 unless they feel comfortable with it so their shooting percentage stays the same. The thing to do on defense is to never let them feel comfortable taking that 3. IIRC, the Spurs were getting looks from 3 throughout the game.

1: 4/7
2: 3/7
3: 0/5
4: 6/6

Odds are the Spurs won't be that hot from 3 again (52%) but I don't see any reason why they can't keep getting 20+ of them up a game. They shot 21 a game at 40% during the regular season (comes out to ~8.5 makes a game). The Heat were allowing 24 3pa a game during the regular season, which was one of the worst marks in the league.

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Originally Posted by Kibner

The thing about 3pt defense is that 3pt% defense is largely random between teams, but the better defensive teams just allow fewer attempts. My best guess as to why is because players generally won't shoot a 3 unless they feel comfortable with it so their shooting percentage stays the same. The thing to do on defense is to never let them feel comfortable taking that 3. IIRC, the Spurs were getting looks from 3 throughout the game.

1: 4/7
2: 3/7
3: 0/5
4: 6/6

Odds are the Spurs won't be that hot from 3 again (52%) but I don't see any reason why they can't keep getting 20+ of them up a game. They shot 21 a game at 40% during the regular season (comes out to ~8.5 makes a game). The Heat were allowing 24 3pa a game during the regular season, which was one of the worst marks in the league.

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Solid post :cool:

Saw this:

@netw3rk Air conditioning went out at the Bellagio once and MJ still played blackjack for 32 straight hours

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

Saw this:

@netw3rk Air conditioning went out at the Bellagio once and MJ still played blackjack for 32 straight hours

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Probably a few months before he "retired"

If anybody thinks that all these to's for the Spurs is not because of the Heat's defense, they're not watching the games.

That'll be $5k DWade

Every time Leonard puts the ball on the floor I cringe. For a guy who can spot up and defend he doesn't need to be trying to create and far too often he's gotten the ball late in the shot clock and asked to do something tonight.

Check mate c u in miami

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Every time Leonard puts the ball on the floor I cringe. For a guy who can spot up and defend he doesn't need to be trying to create and far too often he's gotten the ball late in the shot clock and asked to do something tonight.

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But that's a #1 option type player.

I really want the Heat's reign to end... I'm sick & tired of this crew... I'm sad to see the Spurs lost home court tonight

Hmmm. Not to certain that's what a #1 option does. Taking a shot with no time left on the clock, that's what your clutch guy does. Wade and Ray Allen take those shots more often than LBJ, are they the heats #1 option? Maybe in that circumstance, but not overall. Leonard got bogged down with pf's (refs can only not assess fouls to so many guys a game, and Leonard hasn't received that benefit).

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Hmmm. Not to certain that's what a #1 option does. Taking a shot with no time left on the clock, that's what your clutch guy does. Wade and Ray Allen take those shots more often than LBJ, are they the heats #1 option? Maybe in that circumstance, but not overall. Leonard got bogged down with pf's (refs can only not assess fouls to so many guys a game, and Leonard hasn't received that benefit).

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I dunno. I watched LBJ hit multiple end of shot clock jumpers tonight. I've seen AD call for the ball and hit the game winner. I've watched great players turn bad plays into points. I didn't see Leonard do that once tonight. He still got 32 minutes tonight.

Besides it wasn't just end of shot clock hail Mary's. Multiple times he got the ball, opted to put it on the floor, and failed horribly.

I guess we will see next game.

I guess so.

I know that everyone is pulling for the Spurs but if it were not fr LBJ leaving the game early, ths series would be 2-0 Heat

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

I know that everyone is pulling for the Spurs but if it were not fr LBJ leaving the game early, ths series would be 2-0 Heat

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No it wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

No it wouldn't.

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Precisely. Spurs had it won before he left. People just using it as an excuse, along with the A/C crap.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

Precisely. Spurs had it won before he left. People just using it as an excuse, along with the A/C crap.

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Don't know what game you were watching but that game was not won before LBJ left the game. The Spurs went on the run after he left the game.

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

I know that everyone is pulling for the Spurs but if it were not fr LBJ leaving the game early, ths series would be 2-0 Heat

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Uptown, honestly does it matter? What happened is what happened. It's 1 to 1 and hopefully a great series.

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

Don't know what game you were watching but that game was not won before LBJ left the game. The Spurs went on the run after he left the game.

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Not many games are won w 7 minutes left :hihi:; but the game was won when the final buzzer sounded .

The Spurs went 14/16 overall and 6/6 from 3pt in the 4th. LBJ played just under half of the 4th quarter. Him playing might have made it closer but they would have still lost. But like I said at the time odds were that they weren't going to stay that hot and they didn't. Instead LBJ had a chip on his shoulder and took over the game at the end. Also those 4 straight missed FT's were HUGE.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Uptown, honestly does it matter? What happened is what happened. It's 1 to 1 and hopefully a great series.

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What ifs are useless. Did it actually happen? No, it didn't. We live in a world where the Spurs have 1 win and the Heat have 1 win. Nothing else matters.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Uptown, honestly does it matter? What happened is what happened. It's 1 to 1 and hopefully a great series.

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it really doesn't. Just sparking a conversation that doesn't include preposterous trade scenarios and EG bashing.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

The Spurs went 14/16 overall and 6/6 from 3pt in the 4th. LBJ played just under half of the 4th quarter. Him playing might have made it closer but they would have still lost. But like I said at the time odds were that they weren't going to stay that hot and they didn't. Instead LBJ had a chip on his shoulder and took over the game at the end. Also those 4 straight missed FT's were HUGE.

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I can also say that the LBJ missed ft was huge or take back that meaningless 3 that made the game a 2pt loss.

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Originally Posted by UptownFuz504

I can also say that the LBJ missed ft was huge or take back that meaningless 3 that made the game a 2pt loss.

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I'm not trying to claim the Spurs would have won, as I already said LBJ came out with a chip on his shoulder and took over. But obviously if they had made the FTs that 3 wouldn't have been meaningless.

Spurs will take game 3. BANK ON IT.

If Duncan started shooting like Stephan Curry this series would easily be 2-0 Spurs.

If LBJ was MJ the Heat would have won it all by now.

Kawhi Leonard looks great tonight. They need a big night from him to win one in Miami.

He is doing well, but it's to be expected. Tonight Pops is putting it on him.

The Spurs with 41 in the first. WOW.

Yea I had a very good feeling the spurs were gonna come out strong this game and take home court right back, they are the better TEAM.

This might be the most spectacular display of shooting ever

I can't remember the last time I saw Miami get beat down like this.