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  1. #1601
    What him guarding the tallest guy on defense when he starting got to do with him camping in the paint on offense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algiersraised View Post
    What him guarding the tallest guy on defense when he starting got to do with him camping in the paint on offense
    Only way to get a dramatic rise in rebounding numbers is to be spending way more time in the paint. Rebounding occurs on offense too, whoever is playing the 5 needs to be in the paint on offense at least some of the time. Casting Trey Murphy as the the rim protector guarding centers is some out of the box thinking for sure. It's not the obvious or logical choice.

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    Why he can’t he’s 610 and athletic and got room to put on a lil muscle and he wouldn’t be relied on getting rebounds offensively because he would be on the court to shoot the 3s everyone love so much our offensive rebounds likely would come from the guys mainly attacking the paint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algiersraised View Post
    Why he can’t he’s 610 and athletic and got room to put on a lil muscle and he wouldn’t be relied on getting rebounds offensively because he would be on the court to shoot the 3s everyone love so much our offensive rebounds likely would come from the guys mainly attacking the paint
    Why not have Brandon Ingram guard centers too then they are about the same height and he has room to put on a little muscle too. Offensive rebounding isnt going to happen without somebody gaining position and boxing out in the paint. Zion likes to play face up and attack the paint from the top of the key, we haven't seen him as effective controlling the post and he would be the guy expected to do it... I'm not opposed to the small ball lineup for some minutes and some matchups but I do think its conceding the offensive glass and one of the reasons why we shouldn't play that way for a large portion of the game. I also don't believe that Trey Murphy can hold up defensively against bigs better than Zion.

  5. #1605
    Depends on match ups. Against guys like Chet, Sengun and Sabonis, Zion can easily guard them, as can BI, Trey or Herb for that matter.

    Against bigger guys like Gobert, Zubac it's more of a problem, but the offense won't run through them very much at all.

    With guys like Wemby and Jokic, I don't think anyone has great solutions so I'm not sure it matters that much. You'll be doubling them anyway.

    Most night I think the Pels can easily play 20-25 minutes with no true center on the floor. It's one reason I'm not uptight about the roster.

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    lol funny thing is Brandon did guard a few centers last year Jarret Allen being one of them and he did pretty good

    Trey is already bigger than Brandon when it comes to weight

    And this is one of the reasons I find it funny how everyone is screaming pay trey the big bucks and the only responsibility y’all want him to have is shoot 3s not rebound and defend being 610

  7. #1607
    If Trey can’t guard someone like Chet atleast moderately how much money does he really deserves
    3pt shooters aren’t hard to find truthfully

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    Ya know, I understand the logic behind us choosing Missi in the draft considering what we needed, where we were in the draft, and what was left.

    But considering our bevy of tradeable draft picks and bench players I couldn't help but wonder why we wouldn't have moved up so we could have selected Kel'el Ware, whom most considered a much better prospect.

    whatever that move up to late , late lottery would have cost, it would have been a lot cheaper than what it will eventually cost
    We don't know if the Pelicans even liked Ware given all the reports of his poor work ethic.

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    Is it October yet? Asking for a friend...

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    Theis was quite good against team USA the other day. After seeing him in the Olympics and the rookies in summer league I'm not freaking out about the center position any more.

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    https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1815782339663831471


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    The New Orleans Pelicans signed Karlo Matković to a three-year, $5.65 million deal, which is fully guaranteed for the first two seasons and includes a third-year team option, league sources told
    @hoopshype

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    Theis was quite good against team USA the other day. After seeing him in the Olympics and the rookies in summer league I'm not freaking out about the center position any more.
    I concur.

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    Bringing Trey Jemison back is huge for this team. I think the roster is set now. Jemison can definitely hold his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedupfan View Post
    Bringing Trey Jemison back is huge for this team. I think the roster is set now. Jemison can definitely hold his own.
    He’s instantly the best rebounding and defending 5 we have.

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    The irony of our brass saying we wanna play small and fast.... And carrying 4 centers. But I get it we are rolling w 4 hoping two can be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    The irony of our brass saying we wanna play small and fast.... And carrying 4 centers. But I get it we are rolling w 4 hoping two can be good
    One of them is going to Birmingham.

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    You really just need a competent 5 so I think we are in a decent spot now. Jemison is a good pickup. Ideally we would have a true backup 4, but you can feature one of your mobile centers or wings there these days. There are no excuses really. We have to get results. We now have a star PG. On paper we have the deepest roster in the league. We got Jemison and Theis- two capable big men plus two promising big men behind them. Willie has to get this right. I wish him luck.
    Last edited by JJackisangry; 07-27-2024 at 06:18 PM.

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    I can dig it. I think we're currently a 50 to 55 win team IF we stay relatively healthy. Not the favorites to win the West but also not out of the question. If we trade BI for Ayton I think we're 55 to 60 wins and the favorites in the West.....a trade for Allen or Kessler and I think we're back to 50 to 55 because as much as we would sure up the 5 we would be losing our Big 3.
    Last edited by PELICANSFAN; 07-28-2024 at 10:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    I can dig it. I think we're currently a 50 to 55 win team IF we stay relatively healthy. Not the favorites to win the West but also not out of the question. If we trade BI for Ayton I think we're 55 to 60 wins and the favorites in the West.....a trade for Allen or Kessler and I think we're back to 50 to 55 because as much as we would sure up the 5 we would be losing our Big 3.
    I'd rather have BI on this team than Ayton... Ayton has a questionable mentality and his best attribute is what he does on offense with the ball in his hands. Im excited to see this team as it is now tbh. Theis just put up another solid outing in the Olympics today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    I'd rather have BI on this team than Ayton... Ayton has a questionable mentality and his best attribute is what he does on offense with the ball in his hands. Im excited to see this team as it is now tbh. Theis just put up another solid outing in the Olympics today!
    agree

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    Just realized the Grizz waived Jemison in order to sign Huff, that guy who took over the game against us in summer league. I was thinking we should have signed that guy he was doing it all.

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    Any updates on Jose’s injury at the Olympics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Any updates on Jose’s injury at the Olympics?
    He returned to the game, so he must have been ok.

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    The Cavaliers and Nets have conducted dialogue around a potential sign-and-trade trade featuring Isaac Okoro for Dorian Finney Smith, per @MikeAScotto (hoopshype.com/lists/cavalier…).
    Cleveland has also expressed trade interest in Cam Johnson. pic.twitter.com/JKNecJSQAZ – 7:04 PM
    Maybe Cleveland wants to do this trade for Ingram afterall? Neither DFS nor Cam are scorers they're more defenders. Cleveland needs another wing scorer. Makes sense for them to go after BI whether they trade Okoro or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDawg View Post
    Maybe Cleveland wants to do this trade for Ingram afterall? Neither DFS nor Cam are scorers they're more defenders. Cleveland needs another wing scorer. Makes sense for them to go after BI whether they trade Okoro or not.
    They aren't going pay BI 40-45M.
    They already have Mobley, Garland and Mitchell all making 35-40M.
    With BI they would be a lux tax team with only four players lol.

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