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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Very possibly. Should of took that Sixers deal
    What deal was that? There was never any report of any offer from the Sixers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    For reasons highlighted by Pelicanidae, it would be a bad move in my opinion.
    I'd still consider it, depending on a few other factors (are we also getting a backup big? CJ is going to the bench, right? these kinds of questions) because the offense would be legitimately outrageous and having a truly electric offense can help mitigate the worst aspects of having a poor defense. Plus, of course, it's Willie Green, so I trust him to extract defense from people. If DJM is playing defense the way he did in San Antonio, Zion is defending like he did at the end of last season, and Herb is still there, then I think it would probably be workable.

    95% of the time it would be fantastic and the 5% of the time that we have a horrible shooting night it would be bad. Like, real bad.
    Basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I'd still consider it, depending on a few other factors (are we also getting a backup big? CJ is going to the bench, right? these kinds of questions) because the offense would be legitimately outrageous and having a truly electric offense can help mitigate the worst aspects of having a poor defense. Plus, of course, it's Willie Green, so I trust him to extract defense from people. If DJM is playing defense the way he did in San Antonio, Zion is defending like he did at the end of last season, and Herb is still there, then I think it would probably be workable.

    95% of the time it would be fantastic and the 5% of the time that we have a horrible shooting night it would be bad. Like, real bad.
    Yeah, I thought about it a bit more. If Pels keep Herb, it's a solid move for both parties. But I wouldn't include Herb, that would be a deal breaker.

    What are your thoughts on Daniel Theis?

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    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder who they want


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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    What deal was that? There was never any report of any offer from the Sixers.
    MM said Pelicans had to act fast on it. Once they got PG it was off the table.

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    I'm beginning to have a mind change. Give B.I his extension. You can always trade him later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    MM said Pelicans had to act fast on it. Once they got PG it was off the table.
    They were never making a move before they knew what was going on with PG. More hot air from MM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Yeah, I thought about it a bit more. If Pels keep Herb, it's a solid move for both parties. But I wouldn't include Herb, that would be a deal breaker.

    What are your thoughts on Daniel Theis?
    I like Theis just fine as a backup C, part of the rotation. I wouldn't even mind him starting if we had a solid backup and could do a centre-by-committee thing. If he's your sole big I think that's an issue.

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    Another big off the board.

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    Rumor.. Lakers are working on a three team trade to land DeRozan and Jerami Grant.

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    So Orlando has re-signed Mo Wagner, renegotiated and extended Isaac, and brought back Goga.

    Really really feels like WCJ is gettable. They seem entirely interested in other bigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post


    So Orlando has re-signed Mo Wagner, renegotiated and extended Isaac, and brought back Goga.

    Really really feels like WCJ is gettable. They seem entirely interested in other bigs.
    The Magic overpaid several of their own players when they realized that they couldn’t attract a star. I wish they had interest in BI, but that doesn’t look to be the case with the KCP signing. WCJ is meh, but he is better than what we have, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Rumor.. Lakers are working on a three team trade to land DeRozan and Jerami Grant.

    Did our Front Office start vacation early after the Murray trade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Did our Front Office start vacation early after the Murray trade?
    I think they're working. Most likely trying to extract as much value as they can from an Ingram trade. If a good deal isn't available they can always see how things playout during the season. Maybe he adjusts his playing style. Or he ups his trade value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    I think they're working. Most likely trying to extract as much value as they can from an Ingram trade. If a good deal isn't available they can always see how things playout during the season. Maybe he adjusts his playing style. Or he ups his trade value.
    I agree with the first bit of this. I'm sure they've been on the phones every day seeing what's out there, trying to gauge interest, making offers, counter-offers, et cetera.

    I disagree that it's possible for BI to up his trade value. While he could always play better, it's the final year of his contract so every month of the season that goes by, the rental gets shorter. That would off-set any play improvement, in my opinion: nobody's paying big for like, 3 months of BI.

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    If you don't trade him you have to extend him IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I agree with the first bit of this. I'm sure they've been on the phones every day seeing what's out there, trying to gauge interest, making offers, counter-offers, et cetera.

    I disagree that it's possible for BI to up his trade value. While he could always play better, it's the final year of his contract so every month of the season that goes by, the rental gets shorter. That would off-set any play improvement, in my opinion: nobody's paying big for like, 3 months of BI.
    Valid points. Him being a premier asset does leave the door open though for a move during the season. If he does end up playing better it wouldn't be the end of the world to actually keep him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    If you don't trade him you have to extend him IMO.
    At that point, you have to start shopping Trey.

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    Yes. There is probably a better market for TMIII and picks to a rebuilding team because of his contract and they can sell their fan base on potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    Yes. There is probably a better market for TMIII and picks to a rebuilding team because of his contract and they can sell their fan base on potential.
    And picks?

    So we're trading Trey and picks to make up for the failure of not having traded BI a year ago when his value was high enough to actually get something out of it? AND we have to pay that contract?

    Jesus Christ. Fire Griff into the sun if that happens.

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    BI is all-star talent.

    Boston didn't trade away players like Tatum, Brown, or BI. They won by trading away a player more on Trey's level in Marcus Smart. This is such a weird fan base wanting star talent traded away for a role player just to make room for the extension of another role player.

    CJ and Jonas were never star talent but we wanted them to be. BI, Murray, and Zion are star players. We actually have a Big 3. It's reported the Pels intend to work out an extension on Ingram. They want this Big 3. Trey and picks going out for a Big seems just as likely at the moment as BI and Pels extension talks breaking down and him being traded.
    Last edited by msusousaphone; 07-02-2024 at 06:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    And picks?

    So we're trading Trey and picks to make up for the failure of not having traded BI a year ago when his value was high enough to actually get something out of it? AND we have to pay that contract?

    Jesus Christ. Fire Griff into the sun if that happens.
    Agree. I’d rather lose BI for nothing than trade TMIII and extend BI at 50 million a year. BI becomes Zach Lavine once he signs an extension.
    Last edited by Darkhorse985; 07-02-2024 at 06:34 PM.

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    Man. Y'all's hatred for this guy brings out the wildest ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    MM said Pelicans had to act fast on it. Once they got PG it was off the table.
    Well it was obvious that the Sixers were a potential landing spot but only if they did not PG. That is why I am fairly certain that there was never an offer.

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