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    Wow. That's a huge coup for Dallas, holy hell. Go get your cash Naji.

    Cheaper than I expected too.

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    Naji gone to Mavs - 3 yrs / 27m

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    Dallas just added a physically defensive do-it-all wing who turned into a 40% C&S three point guy and who isn't afraid to put it on the floor himself. Huge boost for them, a team which is in dire need of precisely that kind of supporting piece.

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    We need Harrison Barnes bad now.

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    Take care Naji

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    Updated because I found fresher odds:

    For anyone betting, these are the Draft Kings BI trade odds as of 6/29 (before this PG to Philly news really dropped):
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Pels haven't said any such thing, as far as I've seen. Do you have a link to somewhere that Griff or Green have said otherwise?

    Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be surprised, but it seems to me the height of foolishness to keep Trey glued to the bench when you've got BI on the move. Unless you don't have BI on the move, in which case lmao at Herb getting bumped to the bench too so that CJ can start. Talk about sacking off the future of the team to preserve the present.
    They haven't said it, but several of the people that cover the team have said it. Several meaning more than one.

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    Can anyone mention how much we can spend in FA? Obviously it's all BI trade dependant but what is the max we can offer a player right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertM320 View Post
    They haven't said it, but several of the people that cover the team have said it. Several meaning more than one.
    If we trade BI and Trey still comes off the bench, Willie Green should be fired into the sun from a cannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bustah View Post
    Can anyone mention how much we can spend in FA? Obviously it's all BI trade dependant but what is the max we can offer a player right now.
    The max we can offer a player right now is about $4m. That's what we have left before we're in the luxury tax, which the Pelicans organisation has never paid. That's why any move to acquire a player of note must occur through a trade, where we send salary out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    The max we can offer a player right now is about $4m. That's what we have left before we're in the luxury tax, which the Pelicans organisation has never paid. That's why any move to acquire a player of note must occur through a trade, where we send salary out.
    Sweet and was that the max we could have offered Naji?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertM320 View Post
    That's somewhat good news.. It means he won't be an impediment to getting a deal done by informing the other team he won't resign. Which means said team will be more willing to part with significant assets to acquire him. It also means he will be on a somewhat reasonable contract considering his value on court, if they decide to keep him.

    Also guys please don't dump on the front office if a deal isn't made. It could simply mean they're being low balled.

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    I personally like Ingram and would like him to stay on a personal level, but I don’t think it’s the best option. He would have to take a significant pay cut. It’s one of those scenarios where we can’t afford him with all of these deals on the books and Trey’s deal coming up. Add in that CJ is still on the roster for two more and it’s impossible. CJ would have to be moved for expirings. We couldn’t have him on the books.

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    Hope Naji has a PO in there as he's going to look starter quality playing off of Luka. The pels should see if Dallas is interested i keeping their MLE by working out a sign and trade.

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    Would love to dump CJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bustah View Post
    Sweet and was that the max we could have offered Naji?
    No, because Naji had been signed to the Pelicans for at least 3 years, we had his Bird Rights, so we could technically go over the cap to sign him but doing so would have incurred luxury tax penalties, which is the problem. This team is cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    Would love to dump CJ.
    It’s not CJ’s fault Willie is a bad coach. CJ has been great for our community. Raised lots of money. Is a great ESPN guest host. I think the Front Office likes him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    That's somewhat good news.. It means he won't be an impediment to getting a deal done by informing the other team he won't resign. Which means said team will be more willing to part with significant assets to acquire him. It also means he will be on a somewhat reasonable contract considering his value on court, if they decide to keep him.

    Also guys please don't dump on the front office if a deal isn't made. It could simply mean they're being low balled.
    I will absolutely dump on the front office if a deal isn't made because all that does is confirm what myself and others have been saying: the best time to move Ingram was a year ago. Of course you're getting shortchanged now, you're a year late and you wasted a bunch of value on your asset. That was the FO's choice, so they get the blame.

    In any case, nothing ScoopB is saying here is new at all. Griff said as much in the post-draft presser, and multiple other reporters were saying the same thing: even if Griff wanted BI gone (and I don't believe that, but just for the sake of hypotheticals) this would be the information they would want to leak. You can't just straight up say ''we are kicking this guy to the curb, good riddance!'' even if you believe it, because all that does is harm your negotiating stance.

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    Salary cap question.. So even if Ingram takes a slight pay cut, we can't keep Trey unless CJ is offloaded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I will absolutely dump on the front office if a deal isn't made because all that does is confirm what myself and others have been saying: the best time to move Ingram was a year ago. Of course you're getting shortchanged now, you're a year late and you wasted a bunch of value on your asset. That was the FO's choice, so they get the blame.

    In any case, nothing ScoopB is saying here is new at all. Griff said as much in the post-draft presser, and multiple other reporters were saying the same thing: even if Griff wanted BI gone (and I don't believe that, but just for the sake of hypotheticals) this would be the information they would want to leak. You can't just straight up say ''we are kicking this guy to the curb, good riddance!'' even if you believe it, because all that does is harm your negotiating stance.
    Within that context sure, if you thought it was best at that time and they missed the opportunity. I can see why you'd have an issue with the front office. I'm just saying as of right now, I wouldn't blame them if a deal doesn't get done. Ingram could possibly up his value next season and a better deal is made. Or he could actually play the way he should actually be playing and things work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    CJ has been great for our community.
    Would rather he be terrible for the community and just a little bad on defense than what he actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    No, because Naji had been signed to the Pelicans for at least 3 years, we had his Bird Rights, so we could technically go over the cap to sign him but doing so would have incurred luxury tax penalties, which is the problem. This team is cheap.
    This is another reason I don't like the murray move first. They've committed additional salary with the Murray deal.

    It's likely whatever happens with Ingram or CJ opens up room under the tax, but with uncertainty that it will, the Pelicans have to resolve the Ingram/McCollum situation before they even can start thinking about free agency.

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