2024 Offseason Thread

[Pelicanidae]

ESPN Sources: Restricted free agent G Max Christie intends to sign a four-year, $32 million deal to stay with the Los Angeles Lakers. Deal includes player option. Christie — 35th pick in the 2022 draft — has shown promise as a future LA rotation player. pic.twitter.com/75Y86oszJa

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2024

Max Christie 4pts and 2rbds per game on 54% TS last year, aged 20.

[RobertM320]

.@BobbyMarks42: By moving it to July 1st, New Orleans will not have to pay the luxury tax... However keep an eye that the Pelicans may have to add another player, possibly Matt Ryan... That deal will not get done until July 6th pic.twitter.com/teNHclVGWy

— Pelicans Film Room (@PelsFilmRoom) June 30, 2024

[JJackisangry]

I find it very hard to believe as well that BI will take less. It could happen, it?s not impossible that he changes his game (other players have done it), but it?s all unlikely. It?s one of those ?Do you really want to take that chance?? situations. Talk to BI, find out his situation and where he stands and keep the phone on for the best deal possible. If he wants to extend for a lesser contract- great. That would show a helluva lot of desire to stay. It needs to be sorted sooner rather than later.

[Pelicanidae]

I find it very hard to believe as well that BI will take less. It could happen, it?s not impossible that he changes his game (other players have done it), but it?s all unlikely. It?s one of those ?Do you really want to take that chance?? situations. Talk to BI, find out his situation and where he stands and keep the phone on for the best deal possible. If he wants to extend for a lesser contract- great. That would show a helluva lot of desire to stay. It needs to be sorted sooner rather than later.

I still stand on the belief that whatever happens won't happen until Paul George is off the board. Seems like so many teams are at least tangentially tied to him that BI is a clear second option in those discussions, and we won't know what the best offer is until PG is gone and we know who the real suitors are.

[Pelicanidae]

.@BobbyMarks42: By moving it to July 1st, New Orleans will not have to pay the luxury tax... However keep an eye that the Pelicans may have to add another player, possibly Matt Ryan... That deal will not get done until July 6th pic.twitter.com/teNHclVGWy

— Pelicans Film Room (@PelsFilmRoom) June 30, 2024

Clarification on what this means as I understand it:

If the Pels trade for Dejounte was official now, it would have technically still taken place under the 2023-24 season and therefore would take us into the luxury tax for this year.

By waiting until the 6th, when free agents can official sign new contracts and such, it gets shunted into the 2024-25 season, meaning JV and Naji are no longer on the books and we're not in luxury tax territory anymore. But this also means that, because the trade isn't official yet, it could technically be expanded and any other move we made could be folded into it until it's officialised on the 6th.

[msusousaphone]

The non-Saints fans don't understand the MO of the people running this franchise. The salary caps don't work the same but it's only a matter of time until this team begins to manipulate it. Loomis isn't technically there but it will still eventually be Loomised.

[RobertM320]

Clarification on what this means as I understand it:

If the Pels trade for Dejounte was official now, it would have technically still taken place under the 2023-24 season and therefore would take us into the luxury tax for this year.

By waiting until the 6th, when free agents can official sign new contracts and such, it gets shunted into the 2024-25 season, meaning JV and Naji are no longer on the books and we're not in luxury tax territory anymore. But this also means that, because the trade isn't official yet, it could technically be expanded and any other move we made could be folded into it until it's officialised on the 6th.

I think the reason they're saying we may have to add another player to it is because DJM's salary increases in the new year, or the value of the picks increases in the new year?

[Pelicanidae]

I think the reason they're saying we may have to add another player to it is because DJM's salary increases in the new year, or the value of the picks increases in the new year?

I'm not entirely sure but that sounds plausible to me.

I don't think details on Murray's trade bonus have been ironed out yet either, so there's some money coming from that and we don't yet know how much.

[Pelicanidae]

Golden State Warriors are waiving Chris Paul and he’ll become an unrestricted free agent, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport. pic.twitter.com/IO00e82xYx

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 30, 2024

Bring him in on the minimum, folks.

[JJackisangry]

I still stand on the belief that whatever happens won't happen until Paul George is off the board. Seems like so many teams are at least tangentially tied to him that BI is a clear second option in those discussions, and we won't know what the best offer is until PG is gone and we know who the real suitors are.

I think somebody will overpay. I do not think it will be a star but assets/picks. Our first step should be to build a team that can win without Zion on the court and one that can play with him when he is on it. Get a fully functional roster and then look towards that next step. If we get the right deal for a star (isn’t off the table) then pull the trigger.

[Pelicanidae]

I think somebody will overpay. I do not think it will be a star but assets/picks. Our first step should be to build a team that can win without Zion on the court and one that can play with him when he is on it. Get a fully functional roster and then look towards that next step. If we get the right deal for a star (isn’t off the table) then pull the trigger.

I think there are attractive trade partners out there in Utah, Orlando, Houston, and Cleveland - and I'm not ruling out the idea of Philadelphia in a 3 teamer if PG doesn't sign there (though I think he will). There are options out there, and with Zach LaVine's market apparently dried up, PG off the table, and Klay apparently angling to LA, there isn't really much choice out there for a team if they want a wing. BI's the best shot, which should mean Griff can demand a slightly higher price.

I agree that there won't be a single mega-star return, but actual players plus picks seems fair. Kessler + Collins + Picks from Utah or WCJ + Isaac + Picks from Orlando, as examples.

[Pelicanidae]

James Harden plans to sign a two-year, $70 million contract to return to the Los Angeles Clippers, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Harden’s agents – Mike Silverman, Troy Payne and Brandon Grier of Equity Sports – have been working with Clippers officials to finalize new deal. pic.twitter.com/dRYRS9roL9

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2024

[Pelicanidae]

There will be no shortage of Chris Paul suitors once he becomes a free agent, but league sources continue to say -- as @TheSteinLine has been reporting for weeks -- that San Antonio has strong interest in Paul to join forces with Victor Wembanyama.

More NBA free agency coverage… https://t.co/YDa6FdM0d6

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 30, 2024

San Antonio current favourites for Chris Paul

[Pelicanidae]

Shams adds that Harden's deal has a player option in the second year, so he's basically taking a one year deal to rehab his recent reputation issues before he can try to go again for bigger money.

[RobertM320]

Sources confirm Sacramento Kings are pursuing a trade for Brandon Ingram. I?m told Kings have had discussions with the Pelicans and it?s worth noting, Ingram was an emerging star under coach Alvin Gentry, who works in Kings front office.

— Sean Cunningham (@SeanCunningham) June 30, 2024

What do they have that they would trade? They're not letting Sabonis go. We wouldn't take Fox after just trading for Murray, would we? Keegan Murray? Who else?

[Nichols]

Yeah I don't want to imply that anyone who likes BI is a Lakers fan, just gotta be clear. I just recall that Nichols in particular was/is a Lakers fan - I could be wrong on that and he can correct me if that's the case, but I'm pretty sure he came to the board in the wake of the LA trade for specifically that reason.

The comment about him being a Lakers fan is specifically talking about him. Again, he can correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong person (in which case, I apologise to him for saying it).

I was, and somewhat still am a Lakers fan. I came here primarily because I wanted to see the young pups, Ball, Ingram, and Josh do well in a new environment. I don't too much care for the Lakers as they currently stand because of how the team is essentially gutted to accommodate Bron. It doesn't feel like a Laker team. It feels like a LeBron team with hired guns. I always cheer for the Pel's over the Lakers when they play, and would prefer seeing them with a chip over the Lakers. Nothing beats rooting for homegrown talent.

So yes, you are partially correct, but the implication that my perspectives should be invalid because of where I come from is wrong. All comments should be assessed based on substance alone.

[Nichols]

In addition my family is from NO.. I'm very much rooted in the culture. Though I'm a California native.

[Pelicanidae]

Sources confirm Sacramento Kings are pursuing a trade for Brandon Ingram. I’m told Kings have had discussions with the Pelicans and it’s worth noting, Ingram was an emerging star under coach Alvin Gentry, who works in Kings front office.

— Sean Cunningham (@SeanCunningham) June 30, 2024

One of my least favourite destinations for Ingram.

Keeps him in the West, doesn't solve the C problem, and they have no super promising players that they'd be willing to part with to send back. Combine that with the fact that a team of Fox, BI, and Sabonis would be competitive going forward, their picks wouldn't be super high value for at least a few years either.

[Pelicanidae]

Sources confirm Sacramento Kings are pursuing a trade for Brandon Ingram. I?m told Kings have had discussions with the Pelicans and it?s worth noting, Ingram was an emerging star under coach Alvin Gentry, who works in Kings front office.

— Sean Cunningham (@SeanCunningham) June 30, 2024

What do they have that they would trade? They're not letting Sabonis go. We wouldn't take Fox after just trading for Murray, would we? Keegan Murray? Who else?

Yeah that's my assessment too. Every time it gets brought up someone mentions Barnes and Huerter as the core elements but that's just really uninspiring. Fixes none of our problems.

[AUSSIE_PELICAN]

In addition my family is from NO.. I'm very much rooted in the culture. Though I'm a California native.

So when BI is traded, what will you do?

[Pelicanidae]

Free agent F/C Kevin Love is finalizing a two-year, $8 million-plus deal to return to the Miami Heat, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. pic.twitter.com/uUFBaErvb8

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2024

[Pelicanidae]

Center Luke Kornet has agreed on a one-year deal to return to the Boston Celtics, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2024

[Pelicanidae]

After 13 iconic seasons together, sources say Klay Thompson is departing the Warriors and the sides will begin to work through sign-and-trade options — discussing now on @Stadium Free Agency Special: https://t.co/UzzmWYSvJk

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2024

[AUSSIE_PELICAN]

Yeah that's my assessment too. Every time it gets brought up someone mentions Barnes and Huerter as the core elements but that's just really uninspiring. Fixes none of our problems.

3rd team?

[Pelicanidae]

3rd team?

Would absolutely have to be. Any straight up deal with Sacramento seems like a loss. They're not giving up Sabonis or Fox, obviously, so nothing else they have blows me out of the water.