2024 Offseason Thread

[Pelicanidae]

Bulls are focusing on the Chicago kid, Matas Buzelis, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 27, 2024

Okay enough, I had Buzelis mostly in this kind of range. Kinda Deni Avdija like himself, actually.

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As of right now Ingram is still a pelican

[Pelicanidae]

OKC is poised to draft Nikola Topic at No. 12, source says.

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) June 27, 2024

Of course OKC get a guy I had in my top 8 at 12 lmao.

The rich get richer.

[Pelicanidae]

Sacramento is going to select Devin Carter with the No. 13 pick, source says.

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) June 27, 2024

Alright

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By these charts estimation, Ingram is worth at least 17 firsts. Get on it GMs. https://t.co/eEvoyKIpHl

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 26, 2024

[Pelicanidae]

Still some really good names in the draft. Likelihood of someone falling to us, should we keep 21, is rising.

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They are not dropping down so far.

[RobertM320]

Griff said, when this offseason began, that he recognised that other teams in the West - even teams who weren't playoff teams this year - were going to improve, so we can't afford to be complacent.

And he was right.

Warriors might be on the lock for Paul George, they'll be better. Memphis will have Ja back, they're going to be vastly better. Houston is even in talks to improve and they weren't dismal last year.

Meanwhile, Denver, Minnesota, OKC, Sacramento, Phoenix, they're all still there, running it back.

If we do not make a real move to tangibly improve the team, we are going to win 48 games next year and still never even sniff real playoff spots. The West is gearing up around us and we cannot afford to just assume us doing the same thing again (the same thing that got us a play-in spot) is going to work in an even tougher West.

Come on, Griff. You understood it well enough to say it. Now act on it.

You know, the one thing I question about this scenario is, there's only a finite number of wins to go around in an NBA season. Its not like you can have 6 teams each win 60+ games in the same conference. You just can't. For every W, someone gets an L. So, if we're able to stay around 50 wins, odds are we would be top 6 next season. Memphis getting better, GSW better, SA better. They have to get their wins from somewhere, and many of them will come against those same six teams that finished above us last season. Not disagreeing with anything, just think people need to remember, there's not an unlimited ceiling on wins.

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Sacramento is going to select Devin Carter with the No. 13 pick, source says.

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) June 27, 2024

Alright

He is another Jose. He will be a good fit for the Kings

[Pelicanidae]

Washington is Bub Carrington selecting at No. 14 in the NBA Draft, sources say. https://t.co/1u2Qcjr70W

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 27, 2024

Excellent sentence structure here from Shams; Washington is Bub Carrington selecting.

[Pelicanidae]

You know, the one thing I question about this scenario is, there's only a finite number of wins to go around in an NBA season. Its not like you can have 6 teams each win 60+ games in the same conference. You just can't. For every W, someone gets an L. So, if we're able to stay around 50 wins, odds are we would be top 6 next season. Memphis getting better, GSW better, SA better. They have to get their wins from somewhere, and many of them will come against those same six teams that finished above us last season. Not disagreeing with anything, just think people need to remember, there's not an unlimited ceiling on wins.

They're coming from the Spurs who are still tanking, Detroit who will still suck, Wizards who appear to be poised to sell off what few good players they have, the Nets who are openly tanking for Flagg in 2025, et cetera.

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Bronny James may fall right in our lap

[Pelicanidae]

At No. 15, Miami is expected to select Jared McCain out of Duke, source says.

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) June 27, 2024

Very Miami pick, if that makes any sense. He'll be good.

Collier, Ware, Holmes still on the board for Pels.

[Pelicanidae]

At No. 15, Miami is expected to select Jared McCain out of Duke, source says.

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) June 27, 2024

Very Miami pick, if that makes any sense. He'll be good.

Collier, Ware, Holmes still on the board for Pels.

Miami is selecting Kel’el Ware at No. 15, sources say. https://t.co/1u2Qcjqzbo

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 27, 2024

We have a disagreement, Mr Fischer!

[Pelicanidae]

Fischer has confirmed it's Ware from his sources too, there was a mix-up.

[RobertM320]

They're coming from the Spurs who are still tanking, Detroit who will still suck, Wizards who appear to be poised to sell off what few good players they have, the Nets who are openly tanking for Flagg in 2025, et cetera.

So you're really believe there's a scenario where 6-7 teams in one conference will have 60+ wins and we'll have 6-7 teams in the league all with 10-12 wins? Not happening. Way off the edge of the bell curve by multiple standard deviations.

Plus those teams got their wins from SA, Det and WAS last year. They're not going to get MORE wins.

[msusousaphone]

So you're really believe there's a scenario where 6-7 teams in one conference will have 60+ wins and we'll have 6-7 teams in the league all with 10-12 wins? Not happening. Way off the edge of the bell curve by multiple standard deviations.

Plus those teams got their wins from SA, Det and WAS last year. They're not going to get MORE wins.

He meant they're improving talent-wise and will all be in competition to gobble up the wins that you are pointing out will be hard to get. I think.

I'm still going to maintain that we finished the season only ONE game behind the Western Conference Champs and every single one of our core players is younger than their prime so we really would improve our win total running it back and staying healthy. Just need to replace Jonas.

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Why is Grif not calling Pat Riley right now? They look bored in that Miami draft room right now

[Pelicanidae]

So you're really believe there's a scenario where 6-7 teams in one conference will have 60+ wins and we'll have 6-7 teams in the league all with 10-12 wins? Not happening. Way off the edge of the bell curve by multiple standard deviations.

Well no, because I haven't said anywhere that I think 7 teams in one conference will have 60+ wins. I'm honestly not sure where you've got that from, because it's not something I ever said and isn't something I would ever say.

I'm picturing something not too dissimilar to 2013-14, where 49 wins got you the 8th seed in the West (and only one team got more than 60 wins). But there were 8 teams that won under 30 games.

[RobertM320]

Well no, because I haven't said anywhere that I think 7 teams in one conference will have 60+ wins. I'm honestly not sure where you've got that from, because it's not something I ever said and isn't something I would ever say.

I'm picturing something not too dissimilar to 2013-14, where 49 wins got you the 8th seed in the West (and only one team got more than 60 wins). But there were 8 teams that won under 30 games.

That's a scenario that only happens once every ten years or more. The odds are better than even that a 49-50 win team this year finishes Top 6 in the West.

[ragincaucasian]

Literally nobody in this entire draft excites me. Trade this and other picks with Ingram and CJ for Trae Young and give me some excitement for the love of God.

[Pelicanidae]

Philadelphia is selecting Jared McCain at No. 16, sources say. https://t.co/1u2Qcjqzbo

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 27, 2024

[Pelicanidae]

That's a scenario that only happens once every ten years or more. The odds are better than even that a 49-50 win team this year finishes Top 6 in the West.

It's a situation that only happens once every ten years or more?

Well, guess how long it's been, my friend.

[Pelicanidae]

Literally nobody in this entire draft excites me. Trade this and other picks with Ingram and CJ for Trae Young and give me some excitement for the love of God.

Griff isn't going to do that.

He's going to do what he does every draft, which is nothing, and then he'll take someone with the pick and act like that alone is a difference maker.

[Pelicanidae]

The Lakers are selecting Dalton Knecht at No. 17 in the NBA Draft, sources say. https://t.co/1u2Qcjqzbo

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 27, 2024