2024 NBA DRAFT INFO Thread

[Pelicanidae]

I heard a scout said that Nicola Topic is "the white SGA"; hence I rewatched some videos of him........ Ill tell ya this, players certainly will have problems staying in front of him... as they do with SGA

He and Matas are two of the players I'd covet the most

I wouldn't say he's the white SGA personally - I feel like Topic is way stiffer in the ankles and knees and has significantly worse lateral mobility - but in terms of being a craft based shifty finisher with surprising athleticism, I see it.

[fullcourtpress]

I wouldn't say he's the white SGA personally - I feel like Topic is way stiffer in the ankles and knees and has significantly worse lateral mobility - but in terms of being a craft based shifty finisher with surprising athleticism, I see it.

well said

, perhaps the better comparison is the one I just read, "the Serbian Bob Cousy"

[Pelicanidae]

well said

, perhaps the better comparison is the one I just read, "the Serbian Bob Cousy"

Bob Cousy but after they started letting people dribble in a reasonable fashion.

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Here it is . The line up

The results for the Top 4 picks in the 2024 #NBADraftLottery presented by State Farm:

1. Hawks
2. Wizards
3. Rockets
4. Spurs pic.twitter.com/qemnlNzzZI

— NBA (@NBA) May 12, 2024

The results for the 5-14 picks in the 2024 #NBADraftLottery presented by State Farm:

5. Pistons
6. Hornets
7. Trail Blazers
8. Spurs
9. Grizzlies
10. Jazz
11. Bulls
12. Thunder
13. Kings
14. Trail Blazers pic.twitter.com/IplHkAhITB

— NBA (@NBA) May 12, 2024

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5 is such a bad spot for a team like the Pistons, but such an incredible spot for a team like the Pelicans.

Some combo of Collier, Reed, Holland, Clingan are gonna be there.

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) May 12, 2024

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Full order per nba.com

Here’s the complete order for the first round:

1. Atlanta
2. Washington
3. Houston (from Brooklyn)
4. San Antonio
5. Detroit
6. Charlotte
7. Portland
8. San Antonio (from Toronto)
9. Memphis
10. Utah
11. Chicago
12. Oklahoma City (from Houston)
13. Sacramento
14. Portland (from Golden State via Boston and Memphis)
15. Miami
16. Philadelphia
17. Los Angeles Lakers1
18. Orlando
19. Toronto (from Indiana)
20. Cleveland
21. New Orleans (from Milwaukee)
22. Phoenix
23. Milwaukee (from New Orleans)
24. New York (from Dallas)
25. New York
26. Washington (from LA Clippers via Dallas and Oklahoma City)
27. Minnesota
28. Denver
29. Utah (from Oklahoma City via Toronto and Indiana)
30. Boston

[Blattman]

5 is such a bad spot for a team like the Pistons, but such an incredible spot for a team like the Pelicans.

Some combo of Collier, Reed, Holland, Clingan are gonna be there.

? Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) May 12, 2024

I rolled my eyes so much while reading this. Collier at 5 is such a reach, his range is about 10 to 25 and he can't shoot. Holland underperformed in a program where top talent stagnate every year. We have yet to see an All-Stars from the ignite even though they recruit players in the top of the HS class every year. Clingan has major injury concern for his size.

It might be the range needed for Reed but do the pelicans really want to invest top 5 pick money on an undersized PG that didn't learn to run the point yet ?

I wouldn't move into the top 10 unless it's for Topic or Sarr, there's no other prospect I would invest so much money in.

[Pelicanidae]

I rolled my eyes so much while reading this. Collier at 5 is such a reach, his range is about 10 to 25 and he can't shoot. Holland underperformed in a program where top talent stagnate every year. We have yet to see an All-Stars from the ignite even though they recruit players in the top of the HS class every year. Clingan has major injury concern for his size.

It might be the range needed for Reed but do the pelicans really want to invest top 5 pick money on an undersized PG that didn't learn to run the point yet ?

I wouldn't move into the top 10 unless it's for Topic or Sarr, there's no other prospect I would invest so much money in.

Collier at 5 in a normal draft might be a reach, in this draft I think it's totally justifiable.

The weakness of this draft is such that players will go higher than they 'should' in any other year, and it will be fair. For example, Sarr is coming around as a fairly consensus number 1, but he wouldn't have been a number one in any of the last 5 years. It's a product of the weak class. Is Collier a top 5 pick in the Zion draft? No, he's not, but this year? Sure. Makes sense to me.

Collier out of the lottery would be such a steal, in this draft he has some of the best upside out of any bet. Holland, too - I wouldn't want Holland on the Pelicans because of our team situation and where we are in terms of developing talent (that is, we aren't good at it) but send him somewhere with a track record of development and in 3 years he'll be winning minutes.

[bustah]

Could BI, Dys, #21 plus future first land us Dejounte + #1 (Sarr or Topic)

Or could it land us #2 (Topic)

[bustah]

Also is Bronny worth the look at #21?

[Pelicanidae]

Also is Bronny worth the look at #21?

I have Bronny more as a very late first or potentially second round pick (probably second). He's not nearly as bad as some people say, because I think a lot of people watch him just hoping they'll see Lebron James 2.0 and that is not the case, but there's also relatively little star upside and of course there's the health concerns.

[Blattman]

Collier at 5 in a normal draft might be a reach, in this draft I think it's totally justifiable.

The weakness of this draft is such that players will go higher than they 'should' in any other year, and it will be fair. For example, Sarr is coming around as a fairly consensus number 1, but he wouldn't have been a number one in any of the last 5 years. It's a product of the weak class. Is Collier a top 5 pick in the Zion draft? No, he's not, but this year? Sure. Makes sense to me.

Collier out of the lottery would be such a steal, in this draft he has some of the best upside out of any bet. Holland, too - I wouldn't want Holland on the Pelicans because of our team situation and where we are in terms of developing talent (that is, we aren't good at it) but send him somewhere with a track record of development and in 3 years he'll be winning minutes.

The thing about the 5th pick, it's also a lot of guaranteed money for a prospect. With the rookie scale, it's about commiting between 7M to 9M per year on the next 3 years and all the time you commit 9M since most agents are looking for the 120% contract.

I understand the appeal of taking a flyer on high upside players like Holland or Collier but tying that much money to such low floor players could be quite harmful cap-wise even with the coming cap spike.

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Don’t forget we could take Lakers #17 pick and package that .

[Pelicanidae]

Don’t forget we could take Lakers #17 pick and package that .

Wouldn't want to, Lakers are probably going to be worse again next year and it's a significantly better draft. The ability to deny the Lakers a good pick in 2025 while helping ourselves get a higher pick, I'd do that.

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Also is Bronny worth the look at #21?

He may go back to school if we draft him. Probably not worth the drama. We got enough drama with Zion.

[Mount_Zion]

https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/st...29118089666679

Ware is who the Pels need to get

His skill level also fits what the Pels need around Zion

[fullcourtpress]

Alexandre Sarr- obvious we will need someone to guard wimby and chet for the foreseeable future, while not clogging it up on our end
Nikola Topic- the other obvious need for us. he'd be kinda perfect for us
Matas Buzelis- not the greatest fit, but you gotta take talent when you can. his floor is franz wagner imo


at the 21st pick id covet

Kel'el Ware (my favorite at 21)
or
Devin Carter

[fullcourtpress]

He may go back to school if we draft him. Probably not worth the drama. We got enough drama with Zion.

hes not worth it with no drama

[Pelicanidae]

https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/st...29118089666679

Ware is who the Pels need to get

His skill level also fits what the Pels need around Zion

If we stay at 21, I'd love Kel'el, if he fell that far. He's awesome. I could justify taking him top 10, easily.

[Pelicanidae]

Laughing myself into a coma with Reed Sheppard recording a 42 inch vert out of absolutely nowhere.

[RaisingTheBar]

Also is Bronny worth the look at #21?

Please God no.

[Pelicanidae]

Bronny measurements coming in. 40.5 inch vert, looked great in the agility drills.

6'1 though, 6'7 wingspan though, I liked his defense a lot but it would have to be special to translate. Going to need that 3pt shot to come around to really provide upside (despite having pretty decent passing). He showed some of that in the past but it's far from locked in. 2nd round bet, for me.

Edit: 6'1.5'', rather, and it's worth remember they do the combine measurements barefoot now. So he's probably closer to 6'3 on the court. Still, very much PG size and no larger.

[Pelicanidae]

Bronny James just crushed the 3-point star shooting drill at the NBA draft combine. 19/25, good for second place. pic.twitter.com/50UVXXy3GY

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 14, 2024

Bronny trying to answer some of the shooting questions.

He was a pretty decent shooter pre-college, in fairness to him. It's not a complete question mark.

[fullcourtpress]

If we stay at 21, I'd love Kel'el, if he fell that far. He's awesome. I could justify taking him top 10, easily.

I agree. How Yves Missi, the C from Baylor, is ahead of Kel' el Ware on most of the mocks ive seen is beyond my understanding

[fullcourtpress]

Could Tyler Kolek be the next Jalen Brunson?