You can’t take these ones for granted. The Jazz are full of snide and specifically take joy in beating us. If you get horribly outworked, you lose these games. Bad teams will try to make you play on their level.
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You can’t take these ones for granted. The Jazz are full of snide and specifically take joy in beating us. If you get horribly outworked, you lose these games. Bad teams will try to make you play on their level.
Lost the 4th quarter 37 - 23 to a team missing it's top two scorers.
Then you force BI to play 37 minutes. If Zion plays no starter plays more than 28 minutes and everybody is resting most of the 4th.
The wisdom of this no back-to-backs while still without CJ and Trey is highly questionable. Especially when the NBA's own research says rest does not prevent injury.
Yea this was a pretty embarrassing loss. Can't lie.
again, the jazz showed the pelicans that this is still the NBA, shorthanded or not.......
i dont know why they put dyson in those situations where he has to be force to take a clock ending shot...ingram should have taken the 3 instead of passing it to dyson....team came out not focus and took this game as an easy W thinking the jazz would lay down....
this game remind me of when the t-wolves beat us with about 6 players on their roster, 2 or 3 seasons ago lol
Sure you could blame Zion because you always do, or you could acknowledge that the Jazz sat their top 2 players, and expect our star to be able to put this away.Originally Posted by luckyman
I find this we can't let our 23 yr old not play ANY B2B's even though we are stupidly shorthanded the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. Play him this game due to CJ, Trey, Ryan being out. But not being flexible is stupid
Who blamed Zion? Is it his unilateral decision to not play? Who said that?
Your incessant stupidity following my posts needs to stop. It really does.
I was thinking the same thing.
I put this loss squarely on the shoulders of WG. How he allowed Jose' to dribble out the clock several times in the 4th is baffling. How LNJ is even on the court is unexplainable.
Last edited by As I See It; 11-25-2023 at 11:19 PM.
Stop being dishonest. Your ridiculous obsession with cheerleading BI over Zion is absurd. If we need Zion to beat a trash Utah team that sat it’s best two players, then that’s not on Zion and it’s not on the organization trying to prevent an injury to their injury proned star. It’s on the guys that played that game.
AGAIN....Defense wins games. How many layups did we miss in the first half as a result of the Jazz challenging.
Truly, this game should have been put away in the first half. Instead, we let an over-matched opponent hang around and humiliate us.
SIDEBAR: Fred Vinson should have every Pelican at some high school gym in SLC tomorrow morning, working on Free Throws. 61% won't cut it.
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Saying the loss is "inexcusable" - while acknowledging several very reasonable and relevant excuses - is puzzling. Yes, they were without 2 top scorers; we were also without Zion, CJ, Trey, and Matt on a west-coast BTB which clearly affected us in the 4th.
I agree it was still a bad loss for many reasons (one being settling for a 3 from Dyson at the end.. we had to find Jordan or BI there, or just drive the paint earlier), but "inexcusable" it wasn't.
I also agree it's puzzling to rest Zion but play BI for nearly 40 minutes. (To me, Ingram is the one we should be more careful with to begin with).
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I'd let them sleep in first, but yeah that's insane for an NBA team. If it keeps up, it'll continue to cost us close games.
If Markhennan and Clarkson are back monday, won't matter if Zion plays. Will be another really tough game.
Good news is CJ's return is imminent and Trey should be back in less than 2 weeks. Those 2 come back you can rest Zion all you want. The timing of healthy scratches now just reeks.
Dyson still isn't ready for this increased load.
Where has it been said Trey will be back in 2 weeks? That would be great.
Thats just me basing it off his original timeline. Return to basketball activities was in 10 - 12 weeks. The 10th week mark was Nov 16th and he returned to those activities on schedule.
Also looks like he's already moving laterally. So, 2 weeks or fewer is my guess.
Sitting Zion was pure idiocy. We are not good enough to be sitting healthy young players just because it's a back to back. We put ourselves behind the 8 ball by doing dumb things like this and then we can never catch up at the end of the season. EVERY DAMN SEASON. If it's not actual injury then it is us being scared of an injury. WTF is this team doing. The Jazz are awful.
This is some kind of joke… This game should be over after 3 quarter … Poor efford , that one is players fault…
It is just bull********, every year same ********. We played against G-League team and we allow ourselves to lose it even though it is so important. Classic Pelicans bull********, no other way to say it.
We should have had 20+ at the half, but we fooled around, played like high school team, missed layups, turnovers, poor shot selection, and ofc basketball gods will punish you. They starte hitting shots and its GG...
There is no excuse, our coaching staff should prepare video material of us loosing these games over and over again and show it before the game and ask our players if they want to do it again.
This is how you end up in play-in instead of play-offs. ********!
Funny thing is that next game they will probably have Markkanen and Clarkson back and we will loose that one also and ******** on everything good we did last week.
Last edited by Mrakar; 11-26-2023 at 02:11 AM.
While we are at good news, Doncic injured his hand and will probably not play against Rockets on Tuesday, so our IST hopes are vanishing....But we deserved it after this preformance...
Also big chance Markkanen and Clarkson are playing tomorrow. Maybe we can use that to get our ******** together, but if i was betting man i would say we are loosing that one bcs of karma...
It’s inexcusable because it was a low IQ loss. Not sure if it’s the fault of the coaching staff or player. But if the issue is this is a travel, back 2 back at a high altitude, how about having and executing a game plan that won’t have us completely gassed in the 2nd half. We tried to run and gun at the beginning, played with a fast pace that was just begging for a 2nd half collapse.
Start the game by getting it to Jonas in the block and playing off of him. Instead Jonas becomes an after thought, and when we finally do get him the ball he’s so out of rhythm he’s out of sorts. Than in the second half BI goes into stat hunting mode, completely ignoring a wide open Hawkins on at least two possessions so he can get his. Then somehow our offense becomes so bogged down that the ball keeps getting into Dyson’s hands where he has to shoot.
If we’re hell bent on treating this like an exhibition game then we should have also rested BI and used this game to further develop Hawkins.
Last edited by Freyfamilyreuni; 11-26-2023 at 10:14 AM.
BI is so selfish!!! Never mind the eight real assists or the other 13 potential assists that went undone, he just doesn't pass the ball enough. I mean, he only led the league (tied w/Tyrese Halliburton) in potential assists in his last game, but as you say, that's not good enough. He needs to learn how to share the ball more but won't because, in his mind, it's all about him.
I whole-heartedly support the trade suggestion of BI and draft consideration to Chicago for Zach LaVine. LMAO!!!
Last edited by As I See It; 11-26-2023 at 12:41 PM.
I keep hearing you propose that trade, but do you think Chicago would want that? They’d probably want a couple of firsts, Trey and Herb. That would be a bit too high.
Just do it...anything to get rid of BI, eh? I'd love to get my hands on that black hole, wouldn't you? Life time 20.6 / 4.0 / 3.9. besides we'd have awesome 6'5" forward bookends. Imagine the matchups...I'm salivating.
LMAO!!!
Last edited by As I See It; 11-26-2023 at 02:18 PM.
Did anyone actually suggest we trade BI for LaVine?
YUP!!
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