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    Jordan Hawkins... Get ready to learn Birmingham buddy

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    The Voice of Reason Contributor RaisingTheBar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Floyd View Post
    Jordan Hawkins... Get ready to learn Birmingham buddy
    You’re not wrong. No way he gets more than 5mpg this season in the big league. If he does we’ve had another year of a slew of injuries and we’re in full tank mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeapeaNOLA View Post
    Can we wait until the kid has a few years under his belt in the actual NBA before throwing around the bust tag? Yall are so impatient.
    This.

    The kid JUST won a championship. You know how out of shape I would let myself get from partying, over eating, not sleeping, and workout skipping I'd be after winning a championship?

    Summer League is weird in that I expect big things from vets but for rookies I'd rather they go in and get humbled. We'll know more by seeing how he improves these deficiencies over the year and into next Summer League than we would have by just seeing him be good on SL. And he's currently like our 10th to 12th player on the roster so we don't need him to step up right away. He was always destined for Bama.
    BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.

    BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    This.

    The kid JUST won a championship. You know how out of shape I would let myself get from partying, over eating, not sleeping, and workout skipping I'd be after winning a championship?

    Summer League is weird in that I expect big things from vets but for rookies I'd rather they go in and get humbled. We'll know more by seeing how he improves these deficiencies over the year and into next Summer League than we would have by just seeing him be good on SL. And he's currently like our 10th to 12th player on the roster so we don't need him to step up right away. He was always destined for Bama.
    But, but Griffin said he was our answer for shooting.
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    Unfortunately next year's draft looks like ********.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    The Ray Allen comp needs to die. I never used it. Ray Allen had a legit handle and could score from anywhere. Hawkins is more like Rip Hamilton or a smaller Klay.

    He also still has the upside of having a decent handle and a 3-level scorer. He already displayed some of that ability despite the bad shooting and loose handle the last couple games.

    Just seeing his interviews you can tell the kid is nervous. He kinda mumbles at times. Him struggling from the FT line is further proof that his nerves are not quite settled.

    He'll be fine with time. He's a good draft pick. In his last 3 games, that kid Podziemski for the Warriors has shot 7-36 and was drafted as a very efficient shooter out of college.

    It's summer league. Hawk will be fine. Relax.
    If anything I?m more encouraged that he is also struggling from the line so badly and hitting everything short- because that indicates it is obviously nerves and probably fatigue as I mentioned earlier. It is something that can be fixed with more exposure. It is a tad concerning, but I think it can easily be rectified.

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    Just put it this way, a great 3 pt shooter and great free throw shooter doesn’t miss THAT badly. He didn’t suddenly become a bad shooter. He’ll just need to adjust to the lights

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    Just put it this way, a great 3 pt shooter and great free throw shooter doesn’t miss THAT badly. He didn’t suddenly become a bad shooter. He’ll just need to adjust to the lights
    THIS. The kid was an 88% FT shooter last season. He didn't all of a sudden forget how to shoot.

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    Did anyone else think we were going to draft Cam Whitmore when the saw him slide on draft night?

    I did. Hawkins skill-set was much more alligned with what we needed; but in the NBA you cant draft for need when such a high percentage of draft choices are total bust. You just gotta draft a the best player available.

    I say this cause i saw he dropped 26 points and 8 steals in a game the other day, and wished we had him

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    Did anyone else think we were going to draft Cam Whitmore when the saw him slide on draft night?

    I did. Hawkins skill-set was much more alligned with what we needed; but in the NBA you cant draft for need when such a high percentage of draft choices are total bust. You just gotta draft a the best player available.

    I say this cause i saw he dropped 26 points and 8 steals in a game the other day, and wished we had him
    Yeah, at the time I was kinda hoping they would take a shot on him, but admittedly did not know what the medical concerns were that they were speaking of.

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    I think most people would agree that you take BPA. Still, if Hawkins calms down and shows what he showed in college he is exactly what we needed. We can criticize the pick once we see him in a structured offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    I think most people would agree that you take BPA. Still, if Hawkins calms down and shows what he showed in college he is exactly what we needed. We can criticize the pick once we see him in a structured offense.

    I dont necessarily think im right or anything. It just seemed like a no-brainer to someone like me, who was ignorant to the facts regarding his medical history...... and still is

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    I dont necessarily think im right or anything. It just seemed like a no-brainer to someone like me, who was ignorant to the facts regarding his medical history...... and still is
    I do think in most cases you go BPA. I’m not sure what turned so many people away from Whitmore, but maybe he wasn’t considered BPA as a result of it and teams passed on him. Who knows. I think draft picks are one of those things that barring a major injury that destroys their athleticism (aka Oden situation), you can judge a pick in hindsight as opposed to right away. These organizations see these players every day, had private workouts with them, etc. There is a reason why some teams get a bust every year and some find gems at the tail end of the draft. They either have an eye for talent or they don’t. That or the coaching makes all the difference. So far under Langdon, Griffin and co. We have been pretty decent on picks. We don’t normally go after a player like Hawkins so I wonder if Griffin had more of an influence on this pick or not. I hope he ends up a lights out shooter because that could take us up a notch.

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