Chuck & Shaq Hit Zion Again!

[UNO Gracias]

Doesn't matter. No one has the luxury of seeing the future. The pick was clear at the time. Still too early to draw a definitive conclusion.

No, it’s embarrassing people out there saying they would still take Zion over Ja (3 years in). It’s not even close at this point.

[luckyman]

As soon as Zion gets his big arse on the court, it'll take maybe 3 games to remind everyone why he clearly is the #1 player from that draft.

But people have extremely short memories.

Joel Embiid played 12 games in his first 3 years.

[PaKwAn]

Speaking of the Grizz, it's amazing that they are close to getting the 3rd seed in the west.... looking at there players it doesn't wow you...the development of Bane has been huge to them.

[PELICANSFAN]

No, it’s embarrassing people out there saying they would still take Zion over Ja (3 years in). It’s not even close at this point.

Easy comment to make when one player is out injured. Good thing careers are not made in 3 seasons and a player is not finished at 21.

[ml wave]

Yeah, remember that time when we almost traded Chris Paul for that injury prone dude with bad ankles that plays for the warriors and that other guy that just came back from back to back injuries? Too bad that guy was so injury prone. It would have been a decent trade in hindsight...

I also remember when Chris Paul's meniscus injury/surgery was going to shorten his career.

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I also remember when Chris Paul's meniscus injury/surgery was going to shorten his career.

So we comparing Zion to Chris Paul?

[luckyman]

Speaking of the Grizz, it's amazing that they are close to getting the 3rd seed in the west.... looking at there players it doesn't wow you...the development of Bane has been huge to them.

It kinda does. And they've won no matter who's available. Now they've lost Brooks 3 - 5 weeks. Doesn't seem to matter on a roster void of BI/Zion/Jonas level talent (minus Ja). It's not just Bane. Also Melton, Brooks, and Tyus Jones.

Then again Taylor Jenkins has coached that team for 3 years. Hasn't been musical chairs at head coach over there.

[ml wave]

So we comparing Zion to Chris Paul?

We could, but the larger point is that nobody knows what will happen to Zion's career. Sure, he could eat himself out of the league and/or have chronic foot/leg issues. It seems more likely to me that he'll be fueled by criticism, comparisons to Ja, etc. and get in better shape. It's all a guess at this point.

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If the mvp vote was today you know who might win

Ja Morant is must-see-TV and has taken over as the most exciting player in the league averaging 24 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds!

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) January 10, 2022

My apologies to the @memgrizz. I have slept on these brothers. I know @JaMorant is special, but I love their size, athleticism, depth and perimeter shooting. This team is a legitimate threat in the West. They have my attention.

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) January 12, 2022

[As I See It]

If the mvp vote was today you know who might win

Ja Morant is must-see-TV and has taken over as the most exciting player in the league averaging 24 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds!

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) January 10, 2022

My apologies to the @memgrizz. I have slept on these brothers. I know @JaMorant is special, but I love their size, athleticism, depth and perimeter shooting. This team is a legitimate threat in the West. They have my attention.

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) January 12, 2022

Meanwhile, our guy is boarding at a "Fat Farm". SMH

[msusousaphone]

The Grizzlies did amazing when Ja was out. That's not all Ja.

I'd still take Zion over Ja.

I get that instant gratification is a thing....but come on....we're all old enough to understand Zion still has way more potential to be a better player than Morant and it's not even close. It just hurts a little harsher because Ja plays a position that is a glaring hole for us. Ja has that Westbrook feel to him where he will always impress and get stats but never win much.

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The Grizzlies did amazing when Ja was out. That's not all Ja.

I'd still take Zion over Ja.

I get that instant gratification is a thing....but come on....we're all old enough to understand Zion still has way more potential to be a better player than Morant and it's not even close. It just hurts a little harsher because Ja plays a position that is a glaring hole for us. Ja has that Westbrook feel to him where he will always impress and get stats but never win much.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/insig...arty-ja-morant

https://www.sportscasting.com/ja-mor...-conversation/

[PELICANSFAN]

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/insig...arty-ja-morant

https://www.sportscasting.com/ja-mor...-conversation/

Look like two very reputable sites. Keep searching for content. I love Ja, but he will not win MVP.

[msusousaphone]

People called Lonzo a bust when he was 23....we see how that's going.

People didn't want us to trade for Brandon Ingram because they said his career was over at 22. Yeah.

People hated Jrue the first few seasons he was here. OK.

I could go on and on with the bad takes people make about young players......but....by all means, keep up with the cconsistency and define Zion's career while he's 21.

[As I See It]

I could go on and on with the bad takes people make about young players......but....by all means, keep up with the cconsistency and define Zion's career while he's 21.

UMM. people aren't defining the guy we stashed in Portland by his age...they are speculating on his true worth based on his health (or lack thereof). Everybody agrees that he has a singular talent on the court which is 'off the charts'. Problem is, his ability to get on the court is highly speculative at best.

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People called Lonzo a bust when he was 23....we see how that's going.

People didn't want us to trade for Brandon Ingram because they said his career was over at 22. Yeah.

People hated Jrue the first few seasons he was here. OK.

I could go on and on with the bad takes people make about young players......but....by all means, keep up with the cconsistency and define Zion's career while he's 21.

I was saying pay Lonzo and got called a troll

[PELICANSFAN]

UMM. people aren't defining the guy we stashed in Portland by his age...they are speculating on his true worth based on his health (or lack thereof). Everybody agrees that he has a singular talent on the court which is 'off the charts'. Problem is, his ability to get on the court is highly speculative at best.

Curry was considered a health risk 3-4 years into his career. Embiid as well. Maybe we should let it play out a bit before making a definitive judgment at 21 years old.

[As I See It]

Curry was considered a health risk 3-4 years into his career. Embiid as well. Maybe we should let it play out a bit before making a definitive judgment at 21 years old.

He has been injured in each of his last five years dating back to Spartanburg Day High School. That's not a 'one-off'; that's a trend. You may like it, but, it's only a fact.

[ml wave]

He has been injured in each of his last five years dating back to Spartanburg Day High School. That's not a 'one-off'; that's a trend. You may like it, but, it's only a fact.

That's neat but I don't think his broken finger last year fits into the "trend". If you want to say there's concern based on his weight/torque/etc. putting stress on his lower body, I think that's a good point and agree that we should all have some level of concern there. Saying he's been injured every year is disingenuous though, unless you also feel like his fingers are uniquely prone to breaking in the future.