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  1. #151
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    I’ve seen all I need to see. Murphy is going to contribute immediately.

  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by AusPel View Post
    I'm not seeing anything with Kira tbh

    He's been 'fine' but nothing impressive of a lottery pick
    I agree. Playing the way he performed against Devon Dotson gives me little reason to believe he can do it against Dame, Steph, Mike, De'Aaron, Ja. Kyle, Trae, and the like. Right now I'm glad we have held on to Tomas Satoransky. But then again, it's only one game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawznola View Post
    Jalen Johnson did his thing as well, Trey and Jalen shocked a lot of people thus far.
    Jalen's whole thing is immaturity. Talent was never the question for that kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelafanatic View Post
    Jalen's whole thing is immaturity. Talent was never the question for that kid
    Eh, it's not his whole thing. He has other things going on that make it questionable as to whether he'll reach his physical potential, but yeah it's not a surprise that he pops in a SL setting.
    Basketball.

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    It's nice to seemingly have a coach that doesn't feel handcuffed to the starting lineup when closing games. It may seem simple and obvious, but finishing with Herb was the right move and I'm glad he made it.

  7. #157
    First observations on Summer League


    Obviously what your looking for are signs that these guys can come off the bench and give you solid minutes in the regular season. To that end what stood out on a very limited sample size...

    -Basketball IQ. The Pels stressed wanting to get smarter on the floor. I was impressed with how Kira, Naji, Murphy and Jones played within the flow of the game. Kira was smart with the ball. Naji created and took smart shots. Murphy and Jones both moved well off the ball, particularly after Coach Green admonished them to cut more off the ball. They promptly did just that. I think you saw the advantage of drafting more experienced guys with years in good college programs under their belt.

    -Defensive intensity. Another point on the Pels offseason check list. Just a single summer league game, but you had to like the squad's defensive tempo, especially int he second half. Everyone hustled, closed out, helped without too much over helping, got their hands in the passing lanes, etc...Just solid team defense. Herb Jones in particular stood out on this end. You can see how his length may be very useful as a spot defender.

    -Versatility. Pels have been lacking length and switchability on the wing for a long while. In Jones, Murphy, Naji and Didi you saw potential for a much better ability to match up. All are long guys who showed good lateral movement, want to and understanding of how to play off ball and on ball. Not sure you've got an elite stopper in the bunch, but they can make life more difficult for some scorers than we've seen from the Pels in recent years.

    -Poise. Again, just a single summer league but I really liked what I saw from Coach Green's demeanor on the sidelines and on time outs (which were mic-ed up for broadcast). Thought whole team responded well to his points and showed very good energy and effort, which I guess you would expect in summer league. But nevertheless it was good to see and I think it was a great idea for Green and the staff to all go out there together and get a head start on the season.

    I'm sure there are other points, but that's some of what I saw. Obviously, Murphy shot the lights out and did other good things as well, and Naji looked like an NBA player out there, but I just liked the overall team performance in terms of effort, basketball IQ and defensive intensity. Fun to watch...

  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by jawznola View Post
    Jalen Johnson did his thing as well, Trey and Jalen shocked a lot of people thus far.
    wasnt impressed by Jalen Johnson. Seemed to bully a small celtics lineup for opportunistic finishes. Doesnt mean he won't be good, just think his stat line lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    I agree. Playing the way he performed against Devon Dotson gives me little reason to believe he can do it against Dame, Steph, Mike, De'Aaron, Ja. Kyle, Trae, and the like. Right now I'm glad we have held on to Tomas Satoransky. But then again, it's only one game.
    Yeah, Kira ceiling this season is running the bench point. He's basically a Ricky Rubio+ at this point and to be honest... It's not a championship caliber player, but we aren't a championship caliber team. So, his development is in reasonable expectation, but he definitely doesn't have much flash to his growth. Hopefully. It'll change soon when his shot starts to fall.

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    Loved what I saw. The whole team actually giving a damn gives me hope that it will translate onto the real team. Don't need to say it but Murphy looks like a total stud. Loved what I saw from Kira and Naji. Didi and Herb made a significant difference on the. defensive side.

    How about Alvarado? That dude is a DOG. I want him on the team, no question. Seeing him get into it with Dotson gave me Pat Beverley vibes.

  11. #161
    Jalen Green is a BEAST though you guys. I actually think he could easily win ROY over Cade.

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    Kira just had 11 points on 42% shooting in a game where his 3 wasn't falling and added 7 assists with zero turnovers. He's just very solid, and will be a great backup this season. A 20 year old turning the ball over 0 times in 27 minutes is extremely impressive. We get way too caught up in scoring sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelafanatic View Post
    Kira just had 11 points on 42% shooting in a game where his 3 wasn't falling and added 7 assists with zero turnovers. He's just very solid, and will be a great backup this season. A 20 year old turning the ball over 0 times in 27 minutes is extremely impressive. We get way too caught up in scoring sometimes
    Exactly and if his scoring becomes legit... The ceiling on him pretty much close to elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelafanatic View Post
    Kira with 7 assists and 0 turnovers. That's beautiful
    I agree with all of your posts I really liked the way Kira handled the ball and I also noticed that Didi looked comfortable with it. I liked the defensive effort of Jones and with Murphy who needs Hield?

    I like it that Green decided to coach the summer league

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawznola View Post
    Jalen Green is a BEAST though you guys. I actually think he could easily win ROY over Cade.
    I’ve been thinking he was the one more worthy of #1 for a while. His game reminds me of some of the greaTest to ever play in small ways. With a good mix of things neither player I’m thinking of did in their primes because defenses wouldn’t allow it and players didn’t shoot stepback 3s intentionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolishFan View Post
    I agree with all of your posts I really liked the way Kira handled the ball and I also noticed that Didi looked comfortable with it. I liked the defensive effort of Jones and with Murphy who needs Hield?

    I like it that Green decided to coach the summer league
    I like the Green decision also. Shows that he wants to start getting to know the guys, warm up a little (has never been a HC before) and start getting the principals and coaching style he prefers into the guys who will be on the team (Kira, Murphy, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertM320 View Post
    Well, he did go to Rice and Virginia. Its not like he went to LSU.
    Damn.

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    Watching this game, made me now say we don't need Lauri or Buddy. I know it's the Summer League but I really loved Kira, Naji, Trey, Herb and Didi. We got this all, our future looks bright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    Watching this game, made me now say we don't need Lauri or Buddy. I know it's the Summer League but I really loved Kira, Naji, Trey, Herb and Didi. We got this all, our future looks bright.
    Same here but I actually liked Herb more than Didi in this game even if he missed some layups and travelled. His D and especially his block was awesome!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    Watching this game, made me now say we don't need Lauri or Buddy. I know it's the Summer League but I really loved Kira, Naji, Trey, Herb and Didi. We got this all, our future looks bright.
    Might not NEED Buddy but we can use Lauri. A stretch big with the 2nd unit wouldn't hurt anything. Can never have too many guys on the floor that can shoot. I know he's not the best defender but our 2nd unit could have guys like Kira, Herb, Did, Naji, Jax, Temple... all those guys can defend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    Watching this game, made me now say we don't need Lauri or Buddy. I know it's the Summer League but I really loved Kira, Naji, Trey, Herb and Didi. We got this all, our future looks bright.
    And they say the future is hard to predict.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I like the Green decision also. Shows that he wants to start getting to know the guys, warm up a little (has never been a HC before) and start getting the principals and coaching style he prefers into the guys who will be on the team (Kira, Murphy, etc).
    Exactly and if they play well and get some confidence it will have a better chance of continuation under the same coach. It also looks like he treated the game seriously looking at his timeouts and rotation in the 4 quarter

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    Let’s not even overlook that Josh Hart was there sitting by Graham and BI, while Zion is not anywhere in sight. These things mean something. If Josh Hart wants to be a Pel, then I want him to be a Pel. Let Tractor Williamson eat his flinstone vitamins somewhere else.
    Last edited by Fedupfan; 08-09-2021 at 05:39 PM.

  25. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Fedupfan View Post
    Let?s not even overlook that Josh Hart was there sitting by Graham and BI, while Zion is not anywhere in sight. These things mean something. If Josh Hart wants to be a Pel, then I want him to be a Pel. Let Tractor Williamson eat his flinstone vitamins somewhere else.
    Lol. I feel like he should have been there too but he did tweet out something when he saw Trey Murphy slam that ball down (which is a good sign). We know dude and his family on the fence so yeah we're going to have to expect this from him a bit early but hopefully he comes around and gives us his 100% as well.

    I honestly think now just sign Josh Hart and we're good. Also loved to hear Graham and BI are going to get in the gym together.

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