The only roster move I want is two more 3s and a vet 4. Cut the guards down by 2.
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The only roster move I want is two more 3s and a vet 4. Cut the guards down by 2.
In fairness, I think Kira is a point guard, rather than a combo, so we do have one available that should be getting 20 minutes a night. Really we just need one other guy.
Move Lonzo, JJ, Melli, and potentially some picks. There's not a huge amount out there available for that price but almost anything would be better than what we have right now, and the opportunities added for guys like Kira have their own value.
Basketball.
If we trade Lonzo I hope it?s for pics and an expiring contract. Don?t want some vet on a 3 year deal who will be past his prime when we?re ready to make a run. Clear cap space, get pics, draft players who fit the mold and sign players who fit the timeline
Robinson is probably going to get Joe Harris type money from Miami
I don't think we'd even have enough cap space to sign him
Buddy Hield for JJ and Lonzo is intriguing to me
We get a lights out shooter (not much else), Sac Town gets 2 expirings and can move Haliburton to start with Fox
And we reunite ourselves with a top 10 pick, which is pretty romantic
Think Buddy could do really well being the third banana to Zion and Ingram
Plus we still save all of our warchest of assets
Last edited by AusPel; 01-20-2021 at 10:42 PM.
I like....I like a lot.
Bear in mind though, that Miami has a ton of expiring contracts and Club Options this year. At Guard, I think Robinson and Nunn are RFA's and Dragic is a Club Option at 18MM as is Bradley at 5.35MM. With Herro starting at the 2, they don't need everyone.
Last edited by As I See It; 01-20-2021 at 10:47 PM.
Ah yeah, I didn't realise it was declining. For some reason I had it in my head that he ended up on like $25m by the end of the deal. That makes it a lot more interesting.
It doesn't solve the defense problems whatsoever, but Buddy is a legitimately incredible shooter and he's proven that over multiple seasons at this point. Would definitely be interesting to see his shooting next to Zion and Ingram.
Just for reference for anyone who hasn't looked at the numbers for a while, here's Buddy's 3pt stats every year of his career:
2016-17: 148/379 (39.1%) - 4.6 attempts per game
2017-18: 176/408 (43.1%) - 5.1 attempts per game
2018-19: 276/651 (42.7%) - 7.9 attempts per game
2019-20: 271/688 (39.4%) - 9.6 attempts per game
2020-21: 54/147 (36.7%) - 10.5 attempts per game [so far]
Career: 927/2273 (40.8%) in only 330 games.
There have been 17 seasons in NBA history where a player has shot at least 39% on over 600 3PAs. Only 3 players have done it more than once.
- Buddy (2x)
- Klay (2x)
- Steph (6x)
The other guys who have done it once: Lillard, Duncan Robinson, Dennis Scott, Paul George, Kemba Walker, JJ Redick, Ray Allen.
Kennard is good and fun and again, can shoot. Which is always nice. He's on a pretty big deal right now though, about $15m a year until 2024 then with a team option after that. Good, in a sense, because if you got him you have him for a while and he's not that old and it's not crazy money per year, but bad cause those same thinsg increase the trade cost.
Last edited by AusPel; 01-21-2021 at 12:40 AM.
Depends. Buddy is obviously the better shooter. Kennard is younger though, and cheaper, and his contract has a team option on it which is always attractive.
Comparing last year (for larger sample):
2pt percentage: Kennard (49.1%) beat Buddy (47.9%)
TS%: Kennard (58.9%) beat Buddy (56.6%)
AST%: Kennard (19.2%) beat Buddy (15.5%)
TOV%: Kennard (10.3%) beat Buddy (12.3%)
STL%: Buddy (1.4%) beat Kennard (0.6%)
BLK%: Buddy (0.7%) beat Kennard (0.5%)
BPM: Buddy (+1.4) beat Kennard (-0.3)
So far this season, Kennard has a higher BLK% and BPM as well, and his TS% so far is 66.2% which is much higher than Buddy's 52.5%. Buddy's having a real real real slump from 2pt range so far this year (sub-40%) so a lot of those stats for him have taken a massive hit over the first 14 games.
So far this season, Buddy has been a 36.7% 3pt shooter on 11.3 attempts per 36: Kennard has been a 50.0% 3pt shooter on about half that volume, around 5.5 attempts per game. They're both elite FT shooters: Buddy at 85%, Kennard at 90% so far this year.
I would still call Buddy the better shooter despite the lowered raw percentage, because his multiple years of super high volume evidence telling me it's definitely real and he could easily have a bounce back, but Kennard does have things in his favour, such as his age, contract, and some minor auxiliary stuff like passing.
The one thing that makes me think we would never do a Buddy deal is how much Griff has talked about valuing high quality people. Not saying Buddy isn't a good person, he might be, but all the drama and mess that surrounded his contract stuff with the Kings a while ago, combined with his unknown-age thing, makes me think that would put Griff off.
Depends on what the Pels' plans are for their future cap. They are looking several years down the road with respect to cap commitments. Kennard is cheaper and has an option, so more flexibility. He is also almost 4 years younger. However, I would suspect Buddy would be easier to acquire.
Yeah NAW and Kira has made Bledsoe and Lonzo expendable. Need to clear more minutes for those 2 and allow them to develop, because their potential looks alot better than Zo and Bledsoe IMO.
Plus Didi should be coming next year. We can use 2 GOOD wing shooters...we can't shoot worth a damm.
At this point, anyone that can play basketball and make a competent play is better than Zo and Bledsoe. Bledsoe has been playing decent but Zo is downright awful.
anyone care to structure a legit trade that would center around Ball to the Mav's and Seth Curry to us? Picks? Other players? I feel Curry could fit in here pretty nicely....
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