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Assuming we do trade Jrue (which, remember, still isn't a physical necessity or anything: if Jrue has requested a move, then we have yet to hear of it) I trust Griff to do his best to get a good deal. If trading him is something we're forced to do, however, you can only get what's on offer, and with guys like Harden now apparently fluid movers there's some competition for the best deals.Originally Posted by HornetGuru
Basketball.
Exactly my point. Im not sure if we're standing by the rumor that we'll only deal him to the east (Which I don't believe. Why limit our options?) But the east teams are in hard competition for Harden and Westbrook so good deals are scarce in the east. The West however can offer a slew of "Potentially" beneficial assets.
No team is withholding their best Holiday offer in order to make a run at Westbrook. The teams looking to deal for Westbrook will be those at the bottom of the barrel desperate for a ratings boost
One correction I would issue is that teams don't appear to be in hard competition for Westbrook. Every report that has come out has basically said that the market for him is incredibly empty. Which makes sense, imo, he's an athleticism reliant PG on the wrong side of 30 with several years of declining efficiency basically everywhere on the floor and a contract the size of a small country's GDP.
The Bulls plan to not issue a qualifying offer to Kris Dunn, per sources. The Clippers are among several teams expected to show interest in the soon-to-be-free-agent guard.
— K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) November 16, 2020
Can also confirm Bulls will extend qualifying offer to Denzel Valentine, which @DarnellMayberry had 1st.
Kris Dunn apparently being allowed to walk
Milwaukee Bucks center Robin Lopez is declining his $5M player option and becoming a free agent, source tells ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 16, 2020
RoLo hitting the open market
Interesting. Know he can defend and shoot. Is he a good rebounder?
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Would like Dunn as a backup guard. He is a pretty good defender. However, if Clippers are competition, we probably will not get a chance.
I think you're thinking of Brook. RoLo is 32 and has never shot better than 33% from 3 in his career.
Brooklyn seems to be the heavy favorite. James is a noted Broadway aficionado and I hear he's preparing to understudy for Larry Murphy in Dear Evan Hansen.
— Robin Lopez (@rolopez42) November 16, 2020
He is a really good defender, for sure. The problem is that he's also pretty awful offensively. Like, ''has a career high TS% of 51%'' bad. 44/26/74 splits this year, following 42/35/79 last year, 42/32/74 the year before that. Basically Lonzo levels of offense.
How many good defensive point guards who can't score whatsoever or manipulate defenses with the threat of offense can one team feasibly handle? If Dunn were to be acquired (hypothetically) that would be a fairly strong sign that Lonzo needs to go imo.
What does the qualifying offer thing mean? Can you only offer one QO per season or?
Can't each player have their own QO?
Edit: I see now. Darnell Mayberry isn't a player. What a ********ing ********tily worded Tweet
Last edited by AusPel; 11-16-2020 at 07:44 PM.
Saw this proposed trade:
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (Sign and Trade), Alex Caruso for J.J. Redick
In Mike's words: "Just Do It"!!
Why
I do like Caruso tho
Because we do not need low priced backup role players?
Nets really don't make sense next two really high usage players. A foul artist just isn't a valuable skill outside of the regular season. I think a cornerstone defensive anchor lower usage player like Jrue would fit and complement that Big 3 better.
I guess Harden scoring, passing, and stls can fit, but I guess they'll probably stagger minutes to give enough shots to everyone. Harden's iso while deadly is just soooo high usage and bog down a game. His defense is respectable now.
Last edited by Taker597; 11-16-2020 at 07:44 PM.
Screws with Jrue's trade value
The Lakers reached out to the Pelicans about a trade for Jrue Holiday centered around Kyle Kuzma, Danny Green, No. 28 Overall Pick, and other considerations, via @EricPincus
— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) November 17, 2020
NOLA was NOT interested. pic.twitter.com/1ItiTtjXYg
Tried us so hard with that one lol
Sources : The Celtics and Pelicans have been holding very serious trade talks centered around Jrue Holiday.
— The Sports Place (@offsportsplace) November 17, 2020
Kemba Walker, Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and Gordon Hayward were all discussed, sources say.
In some of the discussed packages, the Pelicans’ 13th pick was included. pic.twitter.com/1osCoCpHgC
However in other news.... I'm sure it doesn't mean much but at least we're hard bargaining
They are still trying to pawn Kuzma off on us
As if I couldn't hate the Lakers any more
1. They are both upgrades defensively
2. With an three year extension, KCP at age 26 fits timeline better than Reddick (36)
3. KCP has played for SVG who lauded his play defensively
4. Reddick's contract is up next year.
5. Both have recent rich playoff experience.
KCP is 27.
I'm not saying I hate it at all. I kinda like it
KCP won me over in the Finals.
He's JR Smith if JR had a brain
Not at all... After Harden gets dealt.. His value will shoot back up if an arms race starts to develop.
Gross at KCP and Caruso. Not even if you pay me.
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