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Here's what my plan would be for our picks. For this, I'm assuming that all the consensus top picks (Antman, Okongwu, etc) have gone in the top 10, and that Pokusevski is already gone. Everyone knows I like him if he's still there.
We have picks 13, 39, 42, and 60.
Use 13 to draft Riller
Package 42+60 together to try and get another pick like, idk, 34 or something.
Draft Xavier Tillman or Killian Tillie with one of those early second rounders, whichever one is still there (I feel like one might go late first)
Use the other early 2nd rounder to draft Malachi Flynn
Walk out of the draft a winner
Edit: (I am aware this means drafting 3 rookies, I really do not care if we end up sending Flynn to the G League or whatever for the year lol)
Last edited by Pelicanidae; 08-20-2020 at 08:25 PM.
BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.
BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.
Well I can't talk smack in the "spamming the board with giant pics" department.
In a normal draft I might agree with you but the fact is that this year, it's pretty flat between about 13 until about 30. If you see the guy you like, who you think has the potential to be a legitimately good player, take them where your pick is. Try and get cute, trade down to 21 or something and watch Riller go #17.
If you don't want him then obviously that's fine, but if you do want him and you're trying to be clever, you lose him for essentially no gain.
Usually it's fair to play that game because you have a rough idea of talent tiers where people are going, and you know that someone like Riller is going to go very probably between X spot and Y spot, so you can take that calculated risk. This year, he could go anywhere from 15 to 35, and you have absolutely no way of knowing, because the tiers have basically no definition in popular consensus.
If all of the guys you wanted more (Poku, Okongwu, whoever) are gone, and he's still there at #13, and you want him, take him.
I guess a good corollary here is how last year the Suns took Cam Johnson 11th. 90% of people thought that was a reach, and that he could have been there at 15 or even 20, so the Suns should have traded down and tried to get more value. This is true.
But the reality is that Cam has been really good for them this year and did what they wanted him to do. So even if they didn't max value by taking the risk, can you really say they made a mistake?
Moving up in this draft is such a poor value play unless you think Kira is like, the guy. Like, a top 5 prospect you think you're gonna snag.
In any case, I didn't say we will take Riller that high, he just asked for a player meeting various criteria who would be there at 13, which Riller likely will be. The odds are that Riller will fall in the draft to the 20s or something, just like Clarke did last year, and in a years time people will be running around going ''oh man, how did we let him go that low?''
We have absolutely 0 reasons to take on a salary dump. 0!!!
Guys... Lets just chill... at 13 and draft Okoro/Nesmith.
Not exactly really big on the guards in this draft.
And i should revise that. Not a salary dump per say, but maybe a guy that has value but on a bad contract. Like Pelican jokingly said Draymond earlier but I honestly would pull the trigger on him and the #2 pick for any collection of non Zion-BI-Jrue players. I know that's not realistic (Draymond's too good) but something in that vein.
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