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Jrue Holiday's last 5 games points scored--12,19,36,12,12
Not doing much else to make up for it.
Totally agree!! We need a big that will spread the court not constrict it. The minute we won the lottery I started touting Brook Lopez (who would have been an ideal fit), but alas, he re-upped with the Bucks. I even said we could get Maxi Kleber or Frank Kaminsky on the cheap. We have to open up the driving lanes and not clog them up. Drummonds would be an upgrade, but a poor fit.
BTW: Assuming Vincent stays with the club, JAX should work out with him everyday this summer. His shot has potential.
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I’ll say this . We miss Free Throws when the arena is quiet too.
This team loses at their own request. A TERRIBLE defense, no Energy and effort. We just gave up this game. It was supposed to be beautiful, and it is as always ... #PelsLife
Quick thoughts
-Favors doesn’t seem right to me. Lift, lateral movement ability to anchor on post defense all seem compromised. Hurting us on defense. Probably his back is still bothering him.
-Team is going to need time to adjust to Zion. Maybe it’s just all the hype and media attention or maybe he shifts the mechanism enough to throw things out of whack, but whatever it is our rhythm has been disrupted on both ends of the floor.
-We need to figure out our rebounding philosophy. Are we going to find a man and box out or crash the boards? Are we going to tell the guards to get back on defense or help rebound? Is it just lack of hustle or is it scheme or poor technique? Watching Josh Hart’s hustle on the boards is inspiring. Everyone else seems kind of meh about it. Either they are getting back on defense or getting out on the break or they seem to be ball watching while the other team sprints to get there. It’s hurting us. Zion needs to be a big part of this equation going forward. Need him to be ferocious rebounder for a team that lacks size and toughness.
-Denver did everything to maximize their chances. Shot 100% from the line, killed us on second chance points, didn’t turn the ball over. We did everything to minimize our chances. Were lousy from the line, gave the ball away, gave up second and third shots. Lousy and Disappointing.
Preseason Zion wasn't a fluke he can legit shoot 70% We have never seen anything like this from the forward position.Ingram and Jrue are having a hard time finding chemistry with Zion.Lonzo meshes perfectly with him and should be on the floor with him in the few minutes that he plays. The fit looks bad so far the spacing is poor Ingram looks really confused when he's on the floor with Zion.Zion is the #1 option and Ingram and Jrue are having problems adjusting so far.The problem is both of those guys need the ball to play their game.
Totally agree. I don't know if it will be possible for Zion to shoot 70% from the floor for a full year, because obviously 3pt shots plus the inevitable occasional bad games that everyone has, but he can easily be a 60%FG guy despite the volume and despite adding 3s to his game. His touch is just that insane at the rim.
To all the people out there who think Zion is only a dunker: Zion shot 74.7% on none-dunk 2 pointers at Duke. So no dunks at all, 74.7%. Hell, he even shot 47% on 2pt jump shots, admittedly on a pretty small sample size but still, that's good.
I agree about the spacing; I think part of that is that Ingram is going through a dry patch (under 30% 3pt shooting over the last 4 games) and hopefully he can figure that out soon and use Zion's gravity as a way to get better shots for himself. His decision making has crashed into the floor during this stretch, and he needs to pick it back up. But I also think a part of the spacing problem is that Zion has still pretty much not played with Redick on the floor at all, really. Usually Redick is the sub for Zion, which is a huge schematic change and doesn't really make sense structurally. It would be much better to give them some time together, for spacing purposes.
About both Jrue and Ingram needing to ball to play their game; there's some truth to that, but I feel like it shouldn't be such a huge deal. Firstly, Zion doesn't really need to ball that much to play his game. Obviously, you want to give it to him more than he got it at Duke to develop his ball handling and passing game, which has already shown high potential, but he can do a lot of work off-ball. And of course, Ingram's shooting is actually at its best off-ball; he's a brilliant catch and shoot guy, but a really poor off-the-dribble guy. So they should be able to do some work without worry about who gets the most on-ball time, but for some reason Jrue and Ingram are both just playing like they're the rookie, not Zion.
the thing about Zion is you can't stop him from scoring if he gets deep position, so you have to keep him from getting deep position. and the other thing about Zion is you can't stop him from getting deep position.
— Brady Klopfer (@BradyKlopferNBA) January 25, 2020
Zion Williamson 2019-20 (per 100): 44.2 points, 15.5 rebounds, 3.6 assists. 78.7% TS
Zion Williamson at Duke (per 100): 41.2 points, 16.2 rebounds, 3.8 assists. 70.2% TS
Wow it's almost like being an all-time great dominant player at college is a sign that you might be good at basketball.
Obviously this sample size is minuscule, but still. It wouldn't surprise me if his numbers stayed ridiculously impressive, even if not quite this impressive per 100.
It's worth noting that at college he averaged loads more blocks and steals than he's putting up so far in the NBA so the likelihood is that we see a slight drop in the scoring rate and a slight tick up in the stocks.
Both Ingram and Jrue have just missed shots they were making. Not surprised about Jrue. When Cousins first got here, Jrue looked the EXACT same as he does now.
Problem is he has been up and down all year and as one of the vets, the team cant afford that from him.
This team will need to move on from Jrue this year or next without a doubt. Cant be blinded when he plays well for a couple games either. Bad Jrue will be back.
Ingram is just young and I'm confident he will get his game back to consistency again soon.
They honestly just need to play a bad team like a live practice run to recalibrate. Unfortunately, the so called "weak" schedule isnt so until February and really not until March.
You bring up rebounding. We smoked Denver the last two times because we were able to get out in transition. Today that actually worked against us because we were more concerned with getting transition buckets than boxing out. It’s just something that Denver adjusted to and we didn’t really correct the problem. Also have to make free throws. Big big crutch
I would love to see a small ball lineup of
Zo
JJ
Hart
Ingram
Zion
But we won’t be able to give that lineup much time to gel because we feel like Holiday has to be on the floor. We need to trade Jrue and Favors for someone like Wendell Carter Jr or Al Horford
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