How about trading up to get the 2nd pick for Ja Morant? We offer Lonzo Ball and two futrue 1st rounders that the lakers were offering us.
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Deandre Hunter
Darius Garland
Jarrett Culver
Draft someone else
Trade the pick
How about trading up to get the 2nd pick for Ja Morant? We offer Lonzo Ball and two futrue 1st rounders that the lakers were offering us.
How about nabbing Aaron Gordon?
Trade Hill, Moore, and the 4th pick for Gordon.
Then we'll be a couple of shooters from being legit. Like a Terrance Ross, Jeremy Lamb or JJ Reddick.
We're only days away from the draft !! I'm so excited!!
I agree. We don't need to make all of our moves in one summer. Draft Zion, draft whoever with the 4th pick or with whatever combo of picks we get from moving it (10+ 2020 Nets pick from Atlanta is still my hope), and then just go into the season with that and a FA or two. No need to try and steal the world at once.
One step at a time. Don't try to rush things.
Basketball.
[QUOTE=Pelicanidae;1494693] WOW , you just don't get what I was saying in the first place , Of course "Scouts aren't just guessing. They know what to look for. They're not just tossing darts at a board and saying ''oh man, hope this one works out''.
C'mon man you are being facetious,You must be a lawyer LOL . The point IS it's NOT a science , If it were Wade would have been picked BEFORE the 4 guys that went before him or Kobe would have went BEFORE the 12 guys that were picked ahead of him. Not saying the draft is a not well educated guess and quite a few of these guys really know their stuff but it's NOT a SURE THING ,hence Crap shoot , My biggest point is JUST because we have the 4th pick in a draft where the "experts : say there are only 3 sure to good bet players that we or someone else that picks 4th or later won;t get a good, very good or even great player , It happens all the time , THAT was my point
Unless we can move #4 for Beal or Lavine, we should draft Garland. I don't think trading #4 for multiple firsts and having 3+ rookies to develop (in addition to the 3 new members of the team) is a good idea.
No one is going to even mention Brandon Clarke? 6'8", elite athlete with 40+" vertical, high basketball IQ, high motor, tough two-way player who excelled as a weak side shot blocker.
He's being discounted because his wingspan is merely human. But he scores in the point and can guard 1-5. I love the idea of the Pels pairing Zion not with a traditional center but with another athletic freak forward who can defend and score...via draft net....
Bouncy, undersized big who plays with tremendous explosiveness and energy ... He is a strong finisher around the basket ... He’s shown the ability to score off the dribble ... He’s able to score from the low post against certain matchups ... He’s great at scoring on off ball motion plays ... He is a great rebounder, averaging over 8 a game the last couple years ... He is very good on the defensive end of the floor, as a help defender and on the ball ... An amazing shot blocker for a 6’8 forward, he averaged over 3 blocks per game this past season ... Along with the 3+ blocks, he averaged over 1 steal per game ... He has a non-stop motor to go along with his elte athleticism ... He has great timing when he goes to contest shots at the rim ... He rarely fouls despite contesting a lot of shots ... He’s rarely out of control despite how hard he plays ... He’s capable of switching screens and defending players on the perimeter ... In the NBA he’ll need that skill with how the game is played today ... He plays within himself and doesn’t take shots out of his skill set……. He has great touch around the basket ... He’s capable of guarding four different positions ... His athleticism can make him a great help defender at the next level ... He runs the floor very well in transition ... He’s a good finisher in traffic ...
Trade of the Day!
Suns
Lonzo
Solo
Bulls
Pick #4
Tyler Johnson
Pelicans
LaVine
Pick #6
2020 top 4 protected Bulls 1st
Bulls select Garland
Cavs select Culver
Pels select Hunter
Bulls select Reddish
Every team gets what they want....
Suns get PG to fill massive hole and a lesser salary to dump in Solo vs Johnson
Bulls get the PG they want in Garland, keep the 7th pick, and can still add a wing. They also clear up future cap space by swapping LaVine for Johnson.
Pels turn Lonzo and #4 ...into LaVine, 3&D wing at #6, another future 1st, and dump Solo.
Who says NO to this???
We should do a tournament like Hornets 247 did for the 10th pick in the 2012 draft.
Jrue dat
Just seen a sweet mock:
Trade the pick & Solo Hill to Atlanta for 8, 17, & 35
8 DeAndre Hunter- seriously doubt that happens, no way he falls to 8. Supposedly the Hawks & Cavs really like him. But they had the Cavs taking Reddish at 5. That would be sick since that’s the guy I would take at 4 if we stay there. Think us taking Reddish would be a more likely pick there.
17 Bol Bol- he would probably be the perfect center to play with Zion due to him spacing the floor out since he’s a 3 point threat. He just scares me that he won’t be able to stay healthy. If he does though he could be a steal with his shot blocking & shooting. He’s a big time high risk, high reward pick for sure
Then getting rid of Solo’s contract would just be icing on the cake. I want 10, but if I can cut Solo lose to make room for free agency than I’m all for that.
Moving Solo really, really, really isn't a big deal.
Moving him now is a cost. Moving him at the deadline, he's an asset. Teams will want expirings at that point, and if they don't then we just free up his cap next summer instead of this summer. It doesn't matter that we have him on the cap now, because we aren't going to be a contending team and we don't know what our future will look like in detail yet, so trying to sign a free agent to big money is absurd. Especially when you consider which free agents will be available: KD is out for the year, wouldn't sign here anyway. Klay is out until February, wouldn't sign here anyway. Kawhi is probably staying in Toronto, Kyrie is going to Brooklyn, Kemba is going to either stay in Charlotte or take a max in NY.
Who are we freeing up cap space for? Vucevic? Come on.
Trade of the Day
Suns
4th pick
Bulls
Lonzo
Hill
Hawks
Pick #6
Pelicans
Bridges
LaVine
Pick #7 - from Bulls
Pick #8 - from Hawks
Pick #17 - from Hawks
2020 top 4 protected Bulls 1st
Then I’d trade Moore, 7, 8, and protected Bulls pick to Washington for Beal.
Jrue, Elfrid, Frank
Beal, Lavine
Ingram, Bridges
Zion, Kenrich
Okafor, Woods
Long wish list but if we could get Beal and Bridges by trading 4, Lonzo, and absorbing Lavine, I’d do it. I could see running the final 5 as Jrue, Beal, Lavine, Ingram, and Zion.
Suns reportedly throwing around packages including TJ Warren, Josh Jackson, and the number six pick.
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I’m hoping we keep the pick and draft Hunter.
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Emeka Okafor - Joe Smith - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Jason Williams
Al Jefferson - James Posey - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston
If you got Suns throwing a crazy package to get Garland. It might be the best to take him yourself. We and Phoenix are supposed to be title contenders within the next 4-5 years. I don't see the point of helping a squad like this. Dallas coveting Luka is another example. If a player is getting coveted. You may be on to something...
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Yeah, TDCreator. I see you proposing several trades where the Bulls or Suns essentially trade their picks for Lonzo AND Hill.......this was never confirmed but the rumors were that the Suns and Bulls didn't want to trade those picks straight up for Ball. I believe this to be true or LA would have done that to sweeten the deal. So I highly doubt they do it now but also take Hill on with it.
BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.
BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.
Personally, since we made a blockbuster trade already... I think we make a small one at the draft. He wont make another big trade, I think he'll want to access how the team is building up. I think we trade the 4th pick and MAYBE a second rounder to the bulls for Lauri Markkinen. Makes since because they are HIGH on Garland I think they do this trade plus he and Lavine are on the trading block. It would get us some much needed scoring and spacing the floor. However defensive wise..... Meh.
I really think people need to think harder about adding De'Andre Hunter at #4. We would have a truly elite defense for years to come.
Yes I'm biased. But man it would be sweet. Just pick up FA sharp-shooter or two and sit back and enjoy the ride.
Agreed. Hunter honestly might not even go top 6. If Atlanta offers #8 and #17 for #4, then I take that trade, pick up Hunter at #8 if I really want him.
I could easily see him going behind Zion, RJ, Morant, Culver, Garland, White, and possibly a few other names as well.
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