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Pick swaps?!?! Genius if true.
If this deal is what I think it is, the Lakers Billy King'd themselves
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 15, 2019
I have been saying this for months.. If this happens we will be competing for championships now.. NBA is wide open next year.. I promise you the Lakers don’t wanna see... That team can be very good and in a year scary..
Another scenario would be is we trade Ball for #6 with the Suns and move the 6th and 4th to jump up to #3 with the Knicks and take RJ? I still take the Beal deal but that would be my 2nd favorite.
Jrue/Frank
Beal/Hart
Ingram/Keinrich
Zion/Wood
Okafor/Diallo
This team would be scary!
What’s gonna be funny is when we go in there and whip the Lakers next year that’s gonna be great
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Teams are already expressing significant interest in the No. 4 overall pick belonging now to the Pelicans, league sources tell ESPN. Talks are expected to continue over the next few days. This deal could get even bigger for the Pelicans.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 15, 2019
I said in the other thread, if Atlanta take the #4 in exchange for #10 and #17, you take it. Draft Okeke and Bol Bol. Instant shooting.
So Boston did back out
The Boston Celtics refused to make Jayson Tatum available in trade talks with New Orleans, league sources say, putting the Lakers in prime position to strike the deal that teams Anthony Davis with LeBron James
— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 15, 2019
I just picked an example year. In reality, it's like this:
If we received the #4, and the LA 2021 and 2023 FRP
Then it would give us the right to swap our pick with theirs in 2020, 2022, 2024, and 2025.
That either gives us directly their pick, or allows us to swap for it, in the 2019, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, and 25 draft. That's 7 drafts.
— Will Guillory (@WillGuillory) June 15, 2019
Or does it mean that the years we don’t have their 1st rounder we still have the power to swap with them? If so, nice!!
Yes correct but we basically get 3 first round picks from them AND 4 years of pick swap rights...
Look what just happened to Golden State. If Bron and/or AD go down for significant time a year where we thought we'd keep our own pick could turn into a HUGE gain if the Lakers are bad.
Again, I'm waiting to make sure this is true but this trade is nearly unheard-of if we got 3 frps and pick swap rights for the years in between.
BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.
BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.
Pick swap rights is a loophole, because it doesn't take their FRP away from them, it just essentially swaps it down.
So if we had #11, and they had #6, and we wanted to swap, we'd get #6 and they'd get #11, but it's not them losing their pick because they still get a FRP of their own in that year. Just changes the slot.
Billy King was the GM of the Nets when they did the absurd trade that made the the Celtics who they are today. I mean, we were literally just talking about trading for the last of the Celtic's assets from that trade. That happened in 2013. 6 years later and the Nets are just pulling themselves out of it.
Ah ok. Sadly. The Lakers and Knicks are in a different plane of existence. While a franchise like us has to stay competitive just to stay in the same city, those teams can **** away picks as much as they want and be abysmal for years yet high profile players will always flock to keep them relevant.
We still win, though.
Okay. So that makes this trade way better than we could've hoped. I mean, the Lakers basically better win a title in the next two years or so.
Which I'm not confident they can do.
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