I think the problem is LA over values those guys. Looking at their stats im not very impressed. I would take Tatum and some picks and allow us to choose the players that work for our future.
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I think the problem is LA over values those guys. Looking at their stats im not very impressed. I would take Tatum and some picks and allow us to choose the players that work for our future.
He’s not reporting that at all. He was speculating with Howard Beck and said he thinks Chicago would LaVine for the 4th. It was very much so speculative.Originally Posted by msusousaphone
This is not real estate.
You can't be serious. You realize there's opposition in these deals right? Just because a team has the ability to protect picks doesn't mean the other team has to go for it. Demps simply says unprotected or we move on. At that point if your are the Knicks (or perhaps the Suns in a Jrue trade) you either say ok and take the for sure thing in terms of the player or we'll pass and gamble on our 14%. Why are you acting as if this is some foreign concept. I'm almost certain every team wants to lotto protect all their picks in any trade. It doesn't always happens for a reason.
Lakers fans are so insufferable and entitled. I hope this is just a long con for Boston or New York to step up their offer.
Doesn’t have to be real estate. Folks get Masters in Economics because the theories are applicable in multiple sectors.
AD is an asset. If you get what you think is a good deal, you weigh the percentage chance you can get a better deal vs the risk that you’ll get a worse deal. That’s the calculation I ran when suggested we should have taken a deal with Lakers or Knicks before the deadline.
Being discussed on First Take now.
They have Pretty much announced Davis is going to Lakers on First Take. SAS says they will win title next year.
We should have never considered trading it at the deadline because the entire point was to maximize the odds of getting as high in the draft as possible. The Knicks with AD don’t have the worst record. The Lakers with AD would have fought tooth and nail to get into playoffs. And finally, we would have had more talent on the court, minimizing our odds.
Yes, we got lucky. But it’s directly because we maximized our chances.
So, you ran that calculation with zero facts? You have absolutely no clue what the Pelicans value (not to mention they have completely overhauled their front office). No executive worth anything would be railroaded into making an organizational altering decision without all the facts. That is what you expected this team to do?
Not to mention, there was never any way to know if there was even a respectable offer from the Knicks or what it would have been. You are simply assuming that.
Whoa...pump the brakes...they did not "announce" anything. It was a "what if" piece about teaming LeBron with AD. Comparing the learning curve to what LeBron, Bosh and Wade went through in Miami to what the Lakers will experience. No announcement was made!!
Can we start a new thread for the people who want to waste their time writing about that we should've taken the deal at the deadline? The posts are a complete waste of time and have been proven multiple times to be short-sighted. Pretty annoyed wasting my time reading about it. The thread is supposed to be about AD trade scenarios, not what we could've done at the deadline. Maybe we should also go further back and talk about picking someone else instead of Austin Rivers. That seems like a good use of time.
If it is SAS, it must be fact.
Then this stance is in direct contradiction to teams not being willing to trade Zion for AD. You simply cannot say teams are unwilling to trade Zion in any AD trade but are willing to give up their pick (which has the best odds of getting Zion of any team) without any protection of the No. 1 pick and miss out on AD.
If NY wanted AD but flat out refused to give Zion for AD then they would ensure their pick was Top 1 protected. That is EXACTLY what Dallas did with their pick when they traded for Luka last year.
ESPN =Lakers TV
But how else will we reach page 200?!
And I know, I know. It's like Favre letting Strahan sack him. It feels cheap. But we are on the cusp of greatness. Future posters will sing our songs in the SKC!
But really. How much do you guys value Lavine? Would just the 4th get Lavine? 4th + Ball too steep?
AD for Lavine, Kuzma, Ingram, and future 1st?
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BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.
BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.
*breaks glass bottle on the ground*
How dare you undermine Strahan's sack on Favre!
Lol
He gave that sack up faster than the Lakers crumbled after the last trade deadline!
It’s really not worth arguing whether we made the right move because we ended up with the ultimate piece in Zion by staying put. Whether it be by dumb luck or playing the best odds (and not allowing the Lakers to play their way out of the lottery with AD), the Lakers end up number 4 and the Knicks couldn’t even scrounge pick number 2. I’d say we made the right move whether it ended up this way by chance or not.
People are trying to be “logical” about this, but let’s not pretend we know what’s on the table now and what was on the table then. I’d wager it’s still all speculation and misinformation- particularly the Kuzma crap.
The Fire Monty thread had 400 pages if I remember right.
I actually like the idea of Trading with Chicago....They have some young guys with some real talent. I also would love to see Denver try to get in on the trade talks.
I could be sold on AD for Lavine + Ingram + 2021 and 2023 unprotected. Bulls get 4 plus Ball. Lakers get to keep Kuzma but the future picks have potential for us. We get two young quality starters that have potential to get better- maybe even significantly so. Sure, it's risky but it always was going to be anyway.
Eh... Lavine and Ingram aren't gonna be worth their salary.
I don't want Lavine at all, much less for the 4th pick.
I see that side of it too...
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