If we pass up Garland I'll cry real tears.Originally Posted by Pels4Life
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If we pass up Garland I'll cry real tears.
Prepare to sob.
Basketball.
It's interesting that details of a potential Lakers deal have been leaked. That means either it's false, someone is loose lipped, or someone is driving an agenda.
The back and forth of trades that happen rarely get accurately spread around this way.
It's fun though.
The Pelicans have a completely new FO, and the Lakers deal is still spilling everywhere.
Meanwhile, we know Boston are in negotiations but we have no idea what's being offered.
Sounds to me like the Lakers are just being messy and incompetent again.
If Lakers can trade Ball and future firsts for Beal then i would be ok with Ingram, Beal, and #4. That’d be about the only way i’d deal with Lakers
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Definitely gonna need to figure what do with Ingram and his 2nd contract. Can gas him up and trade him at the deadline for future picks as well.
That's most likely.
a 2020 pick in the mix would be nice...maybe a 2nd round we can use to combine with other picks next year to move up
Do we even know what the Lakers coach thinks about trading these pieces away?
Heheh
wouldn't surprise me if they are all in discussions ...if not they dumb. I'm sure Griff and crew all talking.
I’m told that the Lakers contingent is irate that trade intricacies and specific names were leaked, yet again, by Pels front office. Lakers contingent believe this is being done by Pels to prop up AD’s trade value.
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I think Boston is not wanting to part with Tatum they holding that back I think that’s why Griffin is waiting as soon as Ainge hands over Tatum deal gets done they playing hardball right now .
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Completely disagree.
Lakers trade leaked back in February. Everyone blamed Dell Demps. It's now been made clear it wasn't Dell's fault.
Entire Pels FO changes, Lakers trade still leaks.
What's the common factor? Lakers incompetent FO. Notice we haven't heard anything about what the Boston deal is. Why? Boston has a functional FO.
In all the excitement, I forgot they settled on Vogel. Fail.
Damn Dell, you ain't even employed anymore and you're still leaking names???
Totally get that aspect of it. But his shooting is just so good, and he's still so young. I think he's a good enough athlete. Not Westbrook level, but no worse than say Lillard level.
That's fair. I wouldn't mind him too much at #6, but I feel like at #4 Culver is a much better option. He's a little older, sure, but he's played so many more games that we can judge him a little more fairly. His size, length, defensive ability, and smooth game look like they're going to translate well to the NBA.
Ask Kendrick Perkins what he thinks of Dell Demps. I hope Griff adds Perk to the staff!
Anyway the players hated Demps. Fact!
This is not an attempt to defend Dell. I'm not getting into this discussion with you AGAIN.
We know that Dell didn't leak the info back in February. That's the ONLY point I'm making.
Whether you think he was great or horrible other than that doesn't matter.
My question on defensive ability is, is is it lack of ability, or lack of desire? I think it might be the latter, we'll see in the NBA. Remember, Lonzo Ball had a horrible defensive rep coming into the league, and he's turned into one of the better defenders at his position (when healthy).
My thing about Garland is, he's like the prototype of the type of guard that is successful in today's NBA. These flashy scorers like Dame. Pairing him at Lonzo in the backcourt would be sick.
I like Culver, but I feel his athleticism will cap his potential, and I have questions about his shooting. I wouldn't hate the pick though.
''Pairing him at Lonzo in the backcourt would be sick''
And where's Jrue, just vanished? Come on.
The thing about Lonzo and defense is that he always had the tools to defend. He's a PG who's 6'5 with a 6'8 wingspan. The potential for defense was always there. Garland is 6'3 and his wingspan is 6'4.5. He doesn't have that natural size advantage over most PGs that Lonzo has. For undersized defenders, the way you really get the advantage is with gritty hard work and high IQ. Garland doesn't seem, from the small sample size we had in college, to care much about defense, and doesn't seem to have natural instinct for it.
I'm wondering if Jrue is going to want to stick around for the youth movement. He's 29 and can be an asset via trade for a contending team.
Prepare to get scolded for wanting to trade Holiday.
The team has been preeeeeeetty adamant that they're not trading Jrue over the last couple of months. Given that his contract extends for multiple years, he won't be going anywhere unless he personally requests a trade. And given the fact that he's seemed pretty happy to embrace the idea of being the leader of the team, I don't see that happening.
Yes, it's true that he could possibly bring in good assets, but when you're bringing in a lot of youth you need good, intelligent, patient, and disciplined vets to guide them and bring them into their own. Jrue is the perfect guy to be that influence and leader.
And if he has not included Tatum at this point, Griffin may just be using Boston as leverage against the Lakers to get them to add another asset. Doesn't feel like Boston is all that serious or a deal would be done by now with them. I hope I am wrong.
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