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This. Morant is a better prospect than any combination of picks following him. If Zion wasnt in this draft, Ja would be the runaway favorite for the #1 overall pick. Plus considering he's a small town guy, who would fit perfect with the culture in Memphis. It would take a nice size haul to pry him away from them.
Edit: Put it like this. Phoenix probably would've drafted Morant over Ayton last year.
Last edited by HoustonPelicans; 05-23-2019 at 06:25 PM.
I don't know if teams will be giving away unprotected picks on the regular. Biyombo is a solid big, but he's there to make salaries close. The prize would be Bridges and the pick.
Not sure what the market will be for Holiday. But If we can get another lottery pick next year with a solid prospect like Bridges personally I'd be totally fine with it.
Pels aren’t getting Morant. Not happening. Memphis is on cloud 9 about getting this kid. They’re not going to trade the 2nd pick.
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Doesn't matter he's on a rookie contract. Players rarely get their value back in return. Value also depends on so many other factors. I look around and I'm not sure how many teams are in a position to return value that would be willing to trade Holiday. I could be way off and he could get more who really knows. You asked a question I answered.
Last edited by da ThRONe; 05-23-2019 at 10:23 PM.
I think we all know that in the NBA, picks themselves can often be more valuable than the player they produce. It's a similar thing in that context: 2 first round picks is more valuable than one first round pick and Mikal Bridges.
The reason for this is pretty obvious: a first round pick itself holds no value. Its value is a conferred one: it gets it purely by allowing you access to a player (obviously), and because that player is unknown at the time of it being a pick, their value is whatever you want it to be. A 15th pick could be Giannis, or Kawhi in waiting. It could also be Adreian Payne or Austin Daye. It's totally unknown. The pick is a gamble, but the upside is huge.
A player is much less risky because they're a known factor, but they're also far less valuable because they don't have that same potential. Nobody thinks Mikal Bridges is going to be a superstar. He may one day be a solid player, but nobody has watched his game and seen 25 points per in his future. It's just not there: that's not an insult to him, it's true for most players, but it's something you have to consider. The pick does have that potential though.
So yeah, 2 FRP > 1 FRP and Mikal Bridges.
I would argue that unless those are highly valuable lottery picks though (proj. top 7) then it's still absurd to trade Jrue for that. He's the kind of player you hope a FRP turns into, other than a superstar.
Again this is very shortsighted. Not that anybody's wrong or right on what Holiday's value is atm, but it takes a very narrow view. Value depends on some many things. For example how valuable is a first rounder for the Bucks or Warriors which is almost certainly going to be more like an early 2nd than 1st. Brooklyn's pick was supposed to be gold for Boston until they made the playoffs this year. Those things shift and if the Hornets trade for Holiday and make other great offseason moves have a surprise Denver Nuggets type season now that pick is in the mid to late 20's. Plus we're likely to get a ton of future draft picks via a Davis trade. As people like to point out you'd like to have some guys in with at least some NBA experience.
This isn't even getting to the point that it was an on-the-fly trade situation I thought of. Something like this year's pick could likely be in play or this is something neither team would even come close to considering.
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