Please....were you even born in 1992?Originally Posted by Hoochican
That's how long I have followed this team.
Yes I know they were Charlotte back then but.....what ever!
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Please....were you even born in 1992?
That's how long I have followed this team.
Yes I know they were Charlotte back then but.....what ever!
Great post
I agree that NBA players are way overpaid, but there is a structure that allows for the SuperMax and AD clearly falls in that category.
Still believe you don't hand out a supermax and then try to build a team. If you want to be the Washington Wizards. cool beans. You don't build good teams like this. Let AD go and have a complete rebuild. It's a salary game. Paying AD $40 million isn't gonna to do it and inflate our winshares to the point where building through the drafting is difficult. We have to do a complete rebuild and the only affordable big piece is Jrue.
That 2017-2018 squad window is closed
Trade AD to Knicks or Lakers. Get RJ Barret or Hunter. Acquire more future picks. Keep building assets. This old way of just building through overpaying players needs to be supplemented by actually having drafting assets.
Last edited by Taker597; 05-15-2019 at 12:24 PM.
So what are you drafting for? Your hope is to acquire a draft pick that will turn into a superstar. So, you trade away a top 8-10 player in the NBA just approaching his prime for the hope that you get that lucky again and pull a rabbit out of a hat with the 3rd-6th pick in a weak draft? If he gives you no options, you have no choice. If there is a chance to keep him and pair him with Zion, you do that every day.
Lol. Someone who hasn't posted in years questioned someone else's fan credentials.
That happened.
To me, it makes sense that Davis's camp continues to put out the idea that the hiring of Griffen and the securing of the #1 pick have not changed his mind. After demanding a trade, his reputation took somewhat of a hit. Most people in the City of New Orleans remain angry with him over what they see as Davis turning his back on the organization and his teammates. Well, it would look incredibly fickle if he immediately came out and changed his mind upon hearing that Griffen was hired or that we won the right to select Zion Williamson. It would be a bigger slap in the face to the organization and teammates. It says I could not win with Demps or my teammates but I can simply with the hiring of Griffen and selection of Zion. On the other hand, it looks much better, should he decide to stay, if that decision comes after meeting with Griffen. He can then say it was the long-term vision that Griffen laid out and his belief that things will move in the right direction that convinced him to stick around. I am not saying that there is a guarantee that he stays--though I am maybe a little more optimistic than others--but I do not think it should come as any surprise that he has not immediately jumped back on board.
Last edited by 60minutes; 05-15-2019 at 05:57 PM.
Did it work?
Basketball.
Funny thing is you "don't care" yet you post and this thread proves that people do care. You should cash in your Charlotte Hornets chips, I am sure they are worth something?!??
Yes. I had tried to post before and it appeared my message had gone through. But when I returned to the post, it was not there and it also was not listed in the messages catalogued in my profile.
Weird. Hello now though!
You know when we got AD. He had no one. Zion will be fine. We had big Foot G running point, unmotivated fraud in EG, and Robin Lopez.
We develop our players and squad. We don't have to rush through a rebuild. We control our own destiny
Last edited by Taker597; 05-15-2019 at 08:02 PM.
If Conley stays in Memphis they might take Barrett instead of Morant. The draft is going to be exciting this year.
Speaking of Memphis
Source: Barring the unexpected, Memphis Grizzlies front office and ownership appear to have locked in on selecting Ja Morant with the No. 2 pick in the 2019 NBA Draft, and are informing parties in Chicago of such. That clears the way for R.J. Barrett to fall to the Knicks at #3.
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 15, 2019
Looks like they are in on Morant.
Would be foolish to do otherwise. Ja is the truth.
How is keeping your own star to pair with your draft choice rushing a rebuild?
On one hand, I get your point.
On the other, paying a guy who has already already has emphatically requested out multiple times $240m for the sake of competing next season instead of later could be seen as doing what is needed to win now instead of setting up long term stable success. That could, conceivably, be described as rushing depending on how you see this team with the Jrue-AD-Zion core, and how well you believe we'd be able to put long term assets around them to win over multiple years.
Interesting take. (via The Ringer)
After the lottery, Griffin acknowledged to reporters that having the no. 1 pick affords the franchise more flexibility in the coming months. There’s less pressure to deal Davis now. The Pelicans can play it slow, going into the season with a core of AD, Zion, and Jrue Holiday, and see how things play out. If February 2020 rolls around and Davis still wants to leave, the team could trade him before the deadline for a haul. If Davis’s true reason for originally wanting out was to compete for a championship, how many teams can he now find with more long-term potential than the Pelicans? “He’s wanted to win this whole time and he felt compelled to try to win elsewhere. I think if you look at the totality of where this organization is and where we’re going, we feel very strongly that we’re going to be the environment he wants to be part of,” Griffin said. “And if we’re not, that’s fine; we can deal with it from there. But I’m looking at this, believing that there’s no reason he wouldn’t want to win with us, because that’s what we do. It’s who we are. And I think culturally we’re about all the same things.”
I mean, it's not a new take. We've been hearing this since at least March.
The pros:
- Possibly makes AD more likely to stay long term
- Makes us a better team next year
The cons:
- Makes the return on an AD trade far less valuable than if we trade him now
- Runs the risk of him walking if we can't get a good deal sorted
- If AD decides he still wants to leave, it tanks another season into the garbage
- Don't want Zion developing in his rookie year overshadowed by nonsense drama
- Don't want any Zion being potentially influenced by Mr. Doesn't Dress Himself
- If we are going for a rebuild, having AD on this roster will make us pick in the mid teens rather than in the lottery*
*Yes, I'm aware that lottery odds aren't everything anymore, and that the Lakers jumped from 14th to 4th last night. That doesn't mean it's a guarantee. Top 10 teams overwhelmingly ended up with top ten picks.
Meh. Nothing is getting through Davis' camp. Rich Paul doesn't want him in NOLA, and AD is too much of a beta male to tell him no. Would it be wise to give us a chance? Hell yes. Is he gonna do it? Nope. Whether he's calling the shots, or his agent, the man wants to be in a big market. He can put off this facade that he "wants to win," but when was the last time anyone won on the Lakers or Knicks? The boy wonder LeBron couldn't even help the Lakers. But he's got an itch that needs scratching, so nothing is gonna stop him.
The quicker we realize this, the better off we'll be. Let's be happy we're gonna get a generational player and focus on the return we could possibly get.
Exactly! You sit him down, you tell him, look. We got Jrue, we got Zion. We know this team has potential. We also have a cheque for $240m, and it has your name on it. You either sign the extension, right now, with full commitment to the team, or you're gone, and you won't be going to LA. 100% in, or 100% out. No compromises. No ''stay until January and then we'll see''. Either all in now, or gone, now. That's it. And if he's gone now, which I think he is, then you don't try and convince him and you don't look back. Have some dignity and don't beg.
Exactly. He is being traded to the Knicks for Barrett, Dennis Smith Jr, Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, and both the Knicks and Mavericks top 3 protected 2021 first round picks.
Omg... The Coli (My other Bball forum) Knicks fans
have lost their collective minds and talking nonsense and trashing our city. What
A bunch of sore loser
Add in Alonzo Trier as well. Perfect piece for what we need on the bench to replace Moore pairing up with Frank. I would then dangle DSJr, Knox, and future 1st round picks to help bring in player/players to that fit around Jrue/Barrett/Zion.. Robinson and Trier stay as they fit in with the roster perfectly.
I "don't care" if AD stays or if he goes....not about this particular thread.
I care more about the team then who is on the team, but that's not obvious to bandwagon fans.
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